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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/12/2008 8:17:57 AM | I didnt win the competition.
It really doesnt bother me, because i realise there are so many more important things in life than work.
For me, the most important thing right now is staying sane, and trying, trying and trying to fight this horrible depression that has weaped my soul.
I don't know what to do. My heart is crying for this girl.... the fact that she has ended up back home after all this........... the fact that she is back to square one and wrenching every minute of every day...... it makes me cry. I know its not my fault, i know i did my best, i know theres nothing i can do... but the pain will not go away.
I just wanna see her and cuddle her telling her she isnt alone, like i used to when she loved me. I would never have left her fighting this alone, i just wish she knew and let me help her. I know i could of given her a secure life. I offered her everything, a place to live, money,,, i would of even found her a job. She turned her back on all that as the BPD hit her hard, now i feel, she has lost everything good. And i lost a part of me. | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/12/2008 8:20:38 AM |
This is not always true. Many sociopaths (PD’s) hide their disorder and blames others for the mess their lives are in. The general public should be educated about this disorder which they are not. And surprising even the “experts” trained professional don’t always diagnose them correctly the first time. Some are victims because they were lied too, manipulated and blame for everything that happen in that relationship. PD don’t take any responsibility for anything EVER! They are just people who drain other’s of their emotions cash and anything else they can get from you before leaving and finding yet other person (victim) to suck dry. Also there are many different types of personality disorder and BPD is just one. The worst of these PD’s are those sociopathic types with strong antisocial personality traits. Maybe Quazi 100 you “choose” to be in a dysfunctional relationship because by your own statement:
“which was when I found out that I was BPD.”
But it is unfair and wrong on so many levels to put other people in your shoes. In fact your statement show the very nature of this (BPD) of this disorder and those that suffer from it see everything in black and white terms. Good and Bad. Sorry but real life doesn’t work this way.
First of all, BPD has nothing to do with being a sociopath....that's where you're making your first mistake....I'll speak for myself....anything that I did that was BPD, was fuelled by a desire to not be abandoned, by ANYONE...could have been the homeless bum on the street....a little word comes in to play here. It is INTENT...if the person INTENDS harm with their actions, then you can call it what ever you like, but in my case, the INTENT was fright, panic, anxiety....sheer terror that I would be left alone (even figuratively) again. Did I lie, manipulate, and blame others to try to stop the abandonment....you betcha. Unfortunately, in my case THEY WERE DOING THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THEY WERE BORDERLINE TOO...INCLUDING MY FAMILY! I DIDN'T KNOW ANY DIFFERENT!
You say that BPD see everything in black and white....there are millions of degrees of that, depending on the individual, of course...but basically you are right. When you started seeing this black and whiteness, didn't you realize that it wasn't "normal".BPD's can only go on for so long, before "symptoms" start showing up, and they either show the symptoms, or they have to "hide" from the world. Symptoms could be drinking, drugs, promiscuity, spending too much money...these are outlets to release stress. It they don't work, something bigger and better is going to happen.
About not accepting responsibility...again correct. My ex-husband will swear on a Bible that he never started an argument in the whole 13 years we were together. Hubby's own best friend challenged him on that one, one night, and they had a two hour argument.
Oh, and by the way, I was the one who got drained of my emotions, cash, car, condo, another car, an apartment that I was paying the rent on.....shall I go on?
Of course I chose to be in dysfunctional relationships, I didn't know there were any other kind, until after I got diagnosed....to me that was "normal". So again....I admit, I was dysfunctional, the black, white, lies, manipulation, rages, cash grab, always being wrong (in his eyes....I didn't hang the toilet paper right) was "totally normal" for me, from birth.
When I realized what was going on, I got the hell out.....I plead guilty to everything you say....... | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/12/2008 8:45:34 AM |
I just wanna see her and cuddle her telling her she isnt alone, like i used to when she loved me. I would never have left her fighting this alone, i just wish she knew and let me help her. I know i could of given her a secure life. I offered her everything, a place to live, money,,, i would of even found her a job. She turned her back on all that as the BPD hit her hard, now i feel, she has lost everything good. And i lost a part of me.
Mark....
I know that you're a compassonate, sensitive Pisces....and your empathy is running very deep.
I think you understand that I know what I'm saying....you can't help her.....she can only help herself. Your "wonderful lifestyle" wouldn't have worked. Not unless she devoted herself to hard core re-vamping of her behaviour. I don't think that would happen.
Please accept the "no" and give yourself a pat on the back for trying, and move on with your life........ | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/12/2008 12:23:42 PM | Quazi, i can't thank you enough for your words.
Deep down, i know ur right. The voice inside me is of what you just said......i just wish this pisces personality could let go.................. thats whats hurting me..... letting go of her, accepting the only girl ive ever loved is out there...... and she is 'helpless'.
I'm struggling to understand what my existence is worth when she is so far away. I let her in, regardless of me helping her with her problems,,, i really thought she was someone who could help me with mine.
I know i tried my best and i still pray for her soul regardless of how badly she treated me. I just wish, really wish, she understood how much i loved her and how much i tried, because all she will ever be left with over me is hate and nothingness. I wish she valued our time together, instead of forgetting it.
She'll never ever know how much she hurt me, how much damage she did, which wasnt necessarily her fault. I just wish she knew. In fact, i feel desperate for her to tell her how bad i have been. I'm desperate to contact her parents and talk to them to get everything off my chest........ i would do everything. But i fear that if i was to get in contact, although i would be putting my own mind at rest...... what on earth would they think of me, to be so depressed? They'd think i was barking mad, obsessed, wierd... i dont want them to think bad of me.... but i'd love them to know how i feel right now.
Is there no way i should get back in contact? If i told Jen how low i was.......... would she, i ask would she feel any compassion at all? Would she help me if i told her i couldnt move on without her help? .....................................
........... or would i destroy her for selfishly stopping her from forgetting about me?
If i feel any love for her still, is the right thing to let her go and listen to her final command. She told me to f**k off out her life forever. .... | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/12/2008 4:30:50 PM |
Is there no way i should get back in contact? If i told Jen how low i was.......... would she, i ask would she feel any compassion at all? Would she help me if i told her i couldnt move on without her help? .....................................
........... or would i destroy her for selfishly stopping her from forgetting about me?
If i feel any love for her still, is the right thing to let her go and listen to her final command. She told me to f**k off out her life forever. ....
Mark...
If she had to return home, because she wasn't "handling" things where she was living....and, she did the same thing to another guy that she did to you....I don't think you would get a warm reception if you tried to contact her. She is in a "devaluation" state, and she won't be glad to see you....or hear from you.
Her parents have more than enough on their plate.....trust me, they don't want to hear your story....I'm being honest....I can tell you related stories from my life, if you like.
She did the same thing to another guy....and she will keep on doing it over, and over, until something happens to stop her. This isn't even about you, or the other guy, Mark....it's about her.
This is going to HURT....be prepared......OK?
Depending on how much....um....mischief....she has been up to....drugs, drinking, etc. if you phoned, or visited, she might just know you as the "bloke I was F****** for a while....sometime....hahahahaha" PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT TO YOURSELF.
When a Borderline is out of control, "reality" doesn't exist...everything is instinctual...they scratch their way through every second, of every day....and sometimes don't remember much about it.
She sounds like she needs to be hospitalized.
I'm sorry for being so tough on you, but I'm trying to keep you from doing things that I have seen my Mother do....never worked...landed her in the hospital once....and that I have done....never worked.
Please save yourself the trauma.
What is your life worth? EVERYTHING! Read my post about forgiving yourself for making a mistake again....if she wants help, she'll get help....if she doesn't, she's gonna have a horrible life.
Mark...please read this, then read it again, and again....I've been there....you're 22 turn this around.... tell it to "F**K OFF out of your life forever!" | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/12/2008 6:00:42 PM | Quazi 100
Also there are many different types of personality disorder and BPD is just one. The worst of these PD’s are those sociopathic types with strong antisocial personality traits.”
First of all, BPD has nothing to do with being a sociopath....}
Now if you would have read what I stated you would have seen that I didn’t relate this personality (i.e. sociopath) to people that suffer from BPD. I stated the “The worst of these PD (personality disorder) are those sociopathic types with strong antisocial personality traits”. Therefore Quazi 100 you took what was written out of contexts completely.
First and foremost. People who suffer from a personality disorders also suffer with cognitive mental processing. They have trouble with the written word and what people tell them. In short if it doesn’t have something to do with them, they are not interested and have trouble relating.
BPD's can only go on for so long, before "symptoms" start showing up, and they either show the symptoms, or they have to "hide" from the world.”
Yes I do...
A person with a borderline personality disorder often experiences a repetitive pattern of disorganization and instability in self-image, mood, behavior and close personal relationships. This can cause significant distress or impairment in friendships and work. A person with this disorder can often be bright and intelligent, and appear warm, friendly and competent. They sometimes can maintain this appearance for a number of years until their defense structure crumbles, usually around a stressful situation like the breakup of a romantic relationship or the death of a parent
When I realized what was going on, I got the hell out.....I plead guilty to everything you say
I am very glad to hear that you knew better and did in fact “get out”. Having a personality disorder is bad enough but then you mix both partners that suffer from this. Well you of all people should know what will happen.
THEY WERE DOING THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THEY WERE BORDERLINE TOO...INCLUDING MY FAMILY! I DIDN'T KNOW ANY DIFFERENT!
I would also like to add that we are now learning that some type of personality disorders can be genetically link and may be pass from parents to children. Please understand that this is not conclusive yet but studies are being done to help those that do in fact suffer from Personality Disorders. Borderline Personality Disorder being just one of many but most disorders are treatable with a trained professional psychological therapies. Also the worst of Personality Disorder are those that have traits associated with Antisocial behavior. These are the ones that you don’t walk away from, YOU RUN! | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/12/2008 8:35:29 PM | singleperson2008...
You're right, I'm very cognitively impaired today. I have "strep throat", and my temperature is hovering at about 102 degrees F.
So, I'm not even gonna attempt to navigate this last post of yours, and try to sound coherent...because I know it won't work.
I'll get back to it, when I feel better. | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/12/2008 9:09:22 PM | When I first met a man with it I told a nurse friend .. she said " hit the ground running "
Run and run fast! If they are at least in therapy and know they have BPD and are working on it at least that is good. But most BPD's don't know they have it because it's so tough for them to go get diagnosed. Not to mention that most Psychs do not want to deal with them.
I have known people with BPD and I will run fast if I suspect they have BPD. I know someone with it and they are impossible to speak to. It is exhausting. They are always right. Speaking to a BPD is something that no matter how I explain it to someone, they will never understand how bad it can get.
I was abused horribly when I was younger too by someone I believe who is BPD. You cannot speak to this guy at all. If he even thinks you may have wronged him, you are on his s**t list for life! The worst thing about it as that it is almost seemingly impossible for the BPD to know what they are doing and saying is wrong.
My mother will never leave him either because she says he will end up in a mental hospitol and she would feel bad and at fault! He terrorized our family forever and continues to do so. My poor mother is red faced always walking on eggshells because everything she says is procieved to be wrong. If anyone dare contridict what he says, he comes at you with verbal machine guns firing at you calling you every name in the book cutting you down.
I was going to post something like this before. | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/12/2008 11:05:59 PM |
I'll get back to it, when I feel better.
Quazi 100
Understood and please take all the time needed. Please also try to understand that those of us that were and are involved with people who suffer from a Personality Disorder are the very people whom care for and love them. And we too are very passionate about this subject. Those of us that do try hard to understand in assisting in the healing process that PD go thru in their daily lives. In short we are here not to judge or hurt but to assist and learn about this Disorder. That in fact this Disorder take away from us the individual(s) that we so deeply care for. We know we can’t help them but we can empathize and learn to understand about the Disorder and that we too must learn to live with it. No one leave a relationship untouched by this Disorder albeit a brother sister mother father or child(ren) of those that suffer due to the Disorder. We all must come to some closure and understanding due to those we love who suffer from this Disorder. It is not a disease nor is it a mental illness. But it is a Personality Disorder i.e. character flaw that will effect those that suffer from it and those of us that love them. So again please take all the time you need but also understand that you and those that suffer from it are not along. That there are those that do care and love them that indeed suffer from this Disorder. | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/18/2008 8:58:24 AM | Any and all future dates are probably going out the door with this but I felt the need to speak. I just hope this comes out right.
I suffer from depression. Three shrinks had conflicting views on the Borderline part. One said I had it, one said I didn't, one was on the fence. A therapist said I had it. I pretty much fit the description. I admit, at one time it was hell. I had mood swings left and right and knew I wasn't an easy person to live with. At one time I felt like life was over, I didn't care, had no fight left in me... But thanks to my wonderful therapist and finding the will to fight, I survived. I learned that stress can trigger "episodes". I found out what some of the biggest stresses in my life were and set out to change some things. And I did. I haven't been this happy in I don't know how long. I know when I'm getting into a "mood" and I just walk away. I tell those close to me that I just need to be left alone for the day and they understand. I have my "mood swing" by myself and no one gets hurts in the process. The bottom line is that I was tired of living and feeling the way that I was so I changed things in my life.
If someone doesn't have the will to change and be the best person they are I would also have to say avoid someone with this disorder. But if someone is aware that they have this disorder and they are working hard at leading a normal life, I think they should be given a chance. Education and hard work is the key. Don't be afraid to ask questions. | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/18/2008 10:10:41 AM |
If someone doesn't have the will to change and be the best person they are I would also have to say avoid someone with this disorder. But if someone is aware that they have this disorder and they are working hard at leading a normal life, I think they should be given a chance. Education and hard work is the key. Don't be afraid to ask questions.
Way to go disturbedangel1976....
Take the bull by the horns, and wrestle it to the ground.
I feel the same way you do, regarding the quote, above.
I am more aware of what causes my moods than the average person....or so I've been told. There was a time, when I wouldn't have any idea what mood I was even in, or why.
Like you, if I feel something coming along, I try to nip it in the bud, and don't let it fester....that's when fireworks happen. If I have to "confront" someone, it will be with, usually, a misunderstanding that can be easily settled. I have yet to see a "rage" of any kind settle anything.
I actually feel sorry for people who blame others for their problems. If that's the case, they really are stuck...unless the other person decides to change something...which doesn't happen often....they're screwed.
Now that I take care of my own problems, I'm free to make my own choices, and to have an idea (barring complications, and oh yes, there have been many) where my life is headed.
My future isn't dependent on someone else's choices. | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/18/2008 10:56:21 AM | Help is on the way... Posted: 7/13/2008 2:05:59 AM
Quazi 100
Understood and please take all the time needed. Please also try to understand that those of us that were and are involved with people who suffer from a Personality Disorder are the very people whom care for and love them. And we too are very passionate about this subject. Those of us that do try hard to understand in assisting in the healing process that PD go thru in their daily lives. In short we are here not to judge or hurt but to assist and learn about this Disorder. That in fact this Disorder take away from us the individual(s) that we so deeply care for. We know we can’t help them but we can empathize and learn to understand about the Disorder and that we too must learn to live with it. No one leave a relationship untouched by this Disorder albeit a brother sister mother father or child(ren) of those that suffer due to the Disorder. We all must come to some closure and understanding due to those we love who suffer from this Disorder. It is not a disease nor is it a mental illness. But it is a Personality Disorder i.e. character flaw that will effect those that suffer from it and those of us that love them. So again please take all the time you need but also understand that you and those that suffer from it are not along. That there are those that do care and love them that indeed suffer from this Disorder.
I love and care for many people with BPD...including myself.
But a basic component of the disorder is having bad trust issues. I do have newer relationships, where trust has been highlighted in an extreme way, so that no misunderstandings happen.
However, in my previous personal relationships, once the devaluation set in, I could not be trusted, and I could be giving my partner the crown jewels, and they would secretly be checking them for a ticking bomb. I have been accused of things that actually made me laugh out loud, it was so funny. What starts this devaluation are "perceived slights" that my partner didn't care to take up with me. Over time, this can grow into a serious trust issue.
I "mastered" this concept near the end of my second BPD relationship.
I realized that it didn't matter what I said, or did, that I was the "enemy", even though he wasn't saying it out loud. I heard a few sarcastic comments, that led me to believe that I wasn't his favourite person.
I confronted him about it...he didn't want to talk about it....and at that point, I knew there was absolutely no point in continuing.
The same general scenario happened with my first relationship, except that I was not nearly as clear on the concepts, and how they came about.
Sometimes, there's nothing to fight for....... | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/18/2008 11:03:06 AM | The disorder is frustrating. I won't deny that. However, there is no point in blaming others for the problem. If they are in fact part of the problem (meaning they are creating the stress and triggers) get rid of them! That's what I done. And it has worked miracles!
We all have a choice. We can accept the cards we've been dealt in life and make the best of it or we can blame others and take no responsibility for our own actions. I prefer to deal with what I've been dealt and make the best of it. Its a cop out to blame others and not take responsibility. I spent too much time worrying about stupid things instead of living in the moment. Those days are gone. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/19/2008 6:25:23 PM | I had posted here earlier and, again, I want to thank everyone that has posted on this thread and assisted me in understanding the madness that I had been living....I have read the articles and books on this subject (BPD).......I have moved on to reading healing text...`The Power of Now`and `A New Earth`...everyone here has been very helpful, especially in my healing process and knowing that I wasn`t the `crazy` one...although I take half the blame for falling into the trap. I must admit that I am much more guarded and pay attention to the red flags, but am glad to be away from the madness and remind myself, when I start thinking about him and the happy times, it is much better to be with family and friends then alone with him wondering when the next crazy accusations or no-win situation, etc.....will be headed my way. Too much stress, too much tension....who needs it when I can move forward to a truly exciting, fun life!
Finally getting back to my better self....  | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/19/2008 6:33:30 PM |
Three shrinks had conflicting views on the Borderline part. One said I had it, one said I didn't, one was on the fence. A therapist said I had it.
one thing i've learned about this problem is that it sometimes takes several different sources to nail it. however, i do admire that you had the courage to recognize the criteria within yourself and your behavior.
you and other posters on this thread share views that can only help others. quite commendable, actually. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/19/2008 6:45:00 PM | Messages 15, 17, and 19 ring the bell with me. I'm a year and a half out of it with her, and trying to get custody of our daughter so she doesn't grow up with the crap her other two daughters did, or be screamed at and alienated as her father and I were.
Run like your worst nightmare is right on your heels. It IS!
Been there and done that, and while I have compassion for those people and those affected by them, there is no place for someone like that in my life ever again.
I'm not going to wish you good luck- this is a personality type that even the professionals shy away from. What does THAT tell you?
Run, far and away, and do it quickly, like, NOW!!!
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/20/2008 5:12:19 AM | i never got the idea that the bpd intentionally lied. rather the sense of self fluctuates so frequently and so violently that reality becomes distorted for them. they honestly believe the tales they tell and the claims they make because, in their mind, it rings true.
yet another reason why their healing processes depend on the acknowledgement of the condition and the decision to pursue treatment. | |
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| Help is on the way... Posted: 7/20/2008 5:19:28 AM | I'm coming late to the party here, but having been "involved" with someone who was BPD, I can tell you, without reading the posts, what people have posted. There are websites for the "nons", who have been through the predictable stages of dealing with it.
Bottom line, the "real" person, that "good essence" that "nons" want to believe in, is an illusion. BPDs are great at showing you what they know you want to see in the early stages, but they are incapable of true intimacy. They may, in a minority of cases, and if they are really motivated, be able to restore some level of "function" (for low functioning BPDs). Some can function very well in areas that don't involve personal intimacy. Unfortunately, though, someone who is BPD will never, not ever, be capable of a "normal" close relationship. Intimacy is the trigger, and the kindest thing you can do, if you are in a voluntary relationship, is to leave, once you get "too close".
If it hasn't been recommended already, the best first step for a "non" is to pick up the book "Walking on Eggshells....taking back control of your life, when someone you know has Borderline personality disorder". One of the authors is Krieger. The book will also lead you to websites that offer support from other "nons". It can be very helpful to realize that others have been through the same experience as you, and have found the path back to a sane and sensible life. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/20/2008 5:45:45 AM | suffer from depression. Three shrinks had conflicting views on the Borderline part. One said I had it, one said I didn't, one was on the fence. A therapist said I had it. I pretty much fit the description. I admit, at one time it was hell. I had mood swings left and right and knew I wasn't an easy person to live with. At one time I felt like life was over, I didn't care, had no fight left in me... But thanks to my wonderful therapist and finding the will to fight, I survived. I learned that stress can trigger "episodes". I found out what some of the biggest stresses in my life were and set out to change some things. And I did. I haven't been this happy in I don't know how long. I know when I'm getting into a "mood" and I just walk away. I tell those close to me that I just need to be left alone for the day and they understand. I have my "mood swing" by myself and no one gets hurts in the process. The bottom line is that I was tired of living and feeling the way that I was so I changed things in my life.
Hello there: I just wanted to ask if you are taking medication or just doing it on your own. I wish you all the best and hope you keep doing well.
I was in a relationship with a man that was very serious for the last couple of months. I dont know what HE had but he definitely had almost all of the symptons described by everyone on this thread. Found out that he called the cops on his last two girlfriends because he didn't want to deal with closure issues. One is still being hauled through the court systems because he had her charged with physical abuse. He really messed up that woman's life after SHE put up with his moods for three years that eventaully drove HER crazy. He is not responsible for any of his actions. He blocks things out of his mind in the blink of an eye and feels no remorse for any of his terrible behavior. It is never his fault about any of the bad things that happen in his life and when he is in the wrong he is very quick to throw HIS faults in your face to get you where he wants you.............
I learned that he was on medication for over thirty years and had taken himself off because he felt he could deal with it on his own........He has a very good job with the Government and marginally functions because he works mostly at home and his company gives him the time he needs if he tells them he needs it........and yes, he is on this site now although I met him through Mate1. He deleted his profile there because he got scammed by some so-called Polish woman living in Benin.
Do you understand why I ask that no mentally disturbed person write to me??? I know it limits me very much because almost all the ones who used to write to me I could see their illness lurking very soon after contact. If you get involved with these type of people and they are not being treated, they will play mindgames with you to mess up YOUR mind so they can show people that YOU are the crazy one. They can also be extrememly seductive and charming and they are full of guile. They are actually the ones that KNOW WHAT A GIRL NEEDS.........LOLLLL. I am sorry but they are too scary and I do not intend to be their victims because those people cannot be trusted to know right from wrong.
After hearing all about his previous relationship and everyone who did him wrong and how he is the victim in all of this.............the first time I saw him snap for no valid reason.................I ran so fast he didn't know what hit him. He still tried to play mindgames by holding on to some of my stuff but I just told him I can let those go and I have. Now still trying to renew contact with me to be "friends" HELL NO! | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/20/2008 9:41:03 AM | darkchocolat23,
I'm doing it on my own. I'm really funny about medications. I don't want to have to depend on any kind of medication. Plus I've got this fear that in 5-10 years I'll have liver damage or something from the medications (see enough of those commercials on TV) so I decided about a year ago to go off of my medication. I talked to my doctor about it. I also function better without medication. I've done a great deal of research on the disorder. Over time I've learned what my triggers are, I've developed a higher self esteem about myself (thanks to the help of a therapist), and have learned how to best deal with this disorder. I've worked hard to get where I am at .
I've heard a lot of people say those with BPD like to blame others (their spouses or parents). I really think it all depends on the whole situation. I do think in some situations that others make the BPD sufferer worse. I got out of a marriage because of the way I was treated. I know this sounds like I'm placing blame but I'm not. I made the decision to get involved with who I did so I have no one to blame but myself. I tried talking to this man about things that bothered me, we even tried counseling but he only wanted to place blame on me. I stayed in the marriage to try and keep the family together but as anyone knows, it takes two to make a marriage work. In the end, I knew my mental health would only get better after I left him. Now that we are divorced, my mental health has greatly improved and he has all but abandoned his children. So please no one say that a BPD sufferer is incapable of taking care of their children. We are VERY capable of leading normal lives and taking care of our children when we have the will to do it. We are also capable of sparing those around us the emotional hell that this disorder can bring if we have the knowledge of how to do it. Not all of us are the evil beings that have been described here. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/20/2008 9:54:30 AM | What's all this on the forum always being about mental illness. I fricking cannot deal with mentally ill people. And why the hell would anyone date a mentally ill person? Aren't they usually desperately in need of some care and a place to live? there should be a law against mentally ill people dating.
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/20/2008 10:24:45 AM | Wow.... I wonder if you will feel the same after you or someone close to you ended up with a mental illness.
But that last statement... shows how fricking uneducated you are about the mentally ill. Last time I checked, mental illness did NOT = in desperate need of care and a place to live. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/20/2008 12:02:52 PM |
...Last time I checked, mental illness did NOT = in desperate need of care and a place to live... I have had a bit of experience with that. Probably too much. And to me it seems that you would be the person without the knowledge of mental illness. One of the reasons for homelessness is mental illness. That is what I meant by them needing care and a place to live.
... Last time I checked, ... The last time you checked?
It seems to me that some people just loooooove the mentally ill. Have you ever heard of the term codependent?
I actually volunteer at an all women's shelter/hotel in my free time, where there are a few mentally ill who end up there. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 7/20/2008 12:04:00 PM | | to cinamon 47...and all other " judgemental" types...... where is your humaneness, and empathy for society's down-troddened people, who have mental issues????????????? God forbid!!! if you ever become mentally ill!!! -- maybe you are , - with these strong statements you make online. Have you been checked lately???? | |
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