| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 12:15:05 AM |
T: God and Allah are "up" there fighting for oil as we speak.
Are you serious? Allah = name for God in Islam I bet you dont even know the name of God in Aramaic which was the language Jesus spoke and the word he used to refer to what people erroneously call "god" which does not come from Christianity at all!
just in case you were wondering and so you can know how idiotic your statement sounds to someone studied in religion
Elah. [basic form]
Aramaic. Name for God as Awesome One.
Reference: Deut. 32:15; 2 Chr. 32:15; Neh. 9:17; Ezr. 5:1, 11; 6:14; 7:12, 19, 21, 23; Dan. 2:18, 23, 28, 37, 44f, 47; 3:15, 28f; 6:8, 13.
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Elah/elah.html
It's pronounced guess what? Allah! DU! So if what you fools are saying is true god is fighting with himself just like his idiotic people! I hope you were being sarcastic though I know there are people out there who say things like that. | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 12:51:51 AM |
Are you serious? Allah = name for God in Islam I bet you dont even know the name of God in Aramaic which was the language Jesus spoke and the word he used to refer to what people erroneously call "god" which does not come from Christianity at all!
just in case you were wondering and so you can know how idiotic your statement sounds to someone studied in religion
Thank you for demonstrating your personal lack of understanding of the difference between God and Allah. Here in America, who speak English, are able to decipher the difference between these two words without a thesauraus.
Allah = name for God in Islam
I must give it to ya, it's kinda cute how you think Islam is a language. | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 1:16:20 AM |
Thank you for demonstrating your personal lack of understanding of the difference between God and Allah. Here in America, who speak English, are able to decipher the difference between these two words without a thesauraus.
Do tell me how christians can say that the head of their religion Jesus called "god" Elah (pronounced the same as the way people of Islam say Allah) was calling to a different God than those Islam call to? The God of Islam is the same God of Christianity They(christians and Muslims and their respective religions) both stem from the same source. No way around it.
I must give it to ya, it's kinda cute how you think Islam is a language.
Nice try at taking me out of context Islam is a religion what I said makes perfect sense.
I never said Islam is a language.
Even though I am neither christian nor muslim they have a saying that even a christian in self denial of what name his own "lord" used to call god can agree with.
ilha la ela allah = there is no god other than god.
People who think some christian god is fighting some islamic god dont realize they are the same god!
Thus demonstrating their lack of understanding of their own religion and falling for the foolishness that is causing war on both sides branding themselves FOOLS | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 1:18:05 AM |
God and Allah are "up" there fighting for oil as we speak.
Nailed it :)
Praise the lord and pass da ammunition....god help us (if there is one with any juice up there). | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 3:09:31 AM | There is definitely a difference between how Muslims view Allah and how Christians view God:
1. Muslims = Allah is a Detached, Unknowable Deity (not a Heavenly Father)
2. Christians = Jesus is a Personal Savior with a Heavenly Father (Trinitarian) | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 4:22:34 AM |
Sarah palin"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan. "
"I'm fighting so I can die a martyr and go to heaven to meet God. Our fight now is against the Americans." -- Osama bin Laden, quoted by Al-Quds Al-Arabi newspaper
Wonderful nothing like adding another religious fanatic into the fray,Otherwise known as my god is better then your god.  | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 5:31:54 AM | You know, all this talk about God telling people to go to war brings to mind schizophrenia, the main symptoms of this disease being hallucinations, delusions and angry outbursts as well as clumsiness and incoherant speech.
Auditory hallucinations could certainly explain Bush's assertion that God speaks to him and actually told him straight up to go to war in Afghanistan, end tyranny in Iraq and bring peace to the Middle east.
Delusions are defined as false personal beliefs that are not part of the person's culture and do not change, even when other people present proof that the beliefs are not true or logical. That could explain why, even after being told over and over again that Iraq did not have WMDs, even after the CIA gave reports stating as much, Bush continued to insist they were there.
Bush's angry outbursts and mood swings have been well documented, and as for
clumsiness, he wiped out on a bike, scuffing his entire face, fell off a Segway (that one still makes me laugh), hit his face on a table after choking on a pretzel, and dropped poor Barney on his head.
Incoherant speech...sound like anyone we know?
I'm not saying he definitely is schizophrenic, I'm just saying I don't want anyone else who believes they are doing God's will anywhere near the White House. Now, I don't often talk to God and so far he hasn't spoken to me either, but from what I know about Him I'm pretty sure He doesn't really care whether some pipeline gets built.
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it.
-- Mark Twain | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 6:50:04 AM |
You know, all this talk about God telling people to go to war brings to mind schizophrenia, the main symptoms of this disease being hallucinations, delusions and angry outbursts as well as clumsiness and incoherant speech.
But if you are appealing to people with very strong religious beliefs, having God on your side is the best running mate you can pick. You pick him up, slap one of your campaign stickers on Him, and suddenly the world gets black and white.
It's you against the infidels, and we know who is going to win that one .....don't we ? 
People that are against you, now are against God too. 
Silly wabbits......
Works just as well in Tehran, as in Kansas.  Worked in the Crusades, and it's still keeps tickin' like a fine watch, today. 
They used to pull that trick here in Quebec, in the Catholic Church, when it was deeply involved in provincial politics up to it's neck.
Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge
Heaven is blue, Hell is red.
The Liberal party color was red, btw.
And thus one voted for the "party of God" , in overwhelming numbers.
It's the Energizer Rabbit of politics, and control .
Make the other, "the OTHER" , and then make him the  too.
Some do it for cynical control, others do it for self-justification, and what you really need are front people that really believe it in their hearts and souls. I mean GOD wanted them to lead the country, and do His will. 
How much more justification do you need to act ?
Anything you do, well......there's no need to even think about it.
You see truly spiritual people tend to have their doubts sometimes.
Mother Teresa certainly did, and even Christ (who talked to Dad regularly, and "knew" He existed ) even thought (for a moment) that He was an orphan - up upon that Cross.
"eli eli lama sabachthani"
The thing is that those political leaders never seem to enter these dark tunnels of the soul, at least we seldom hear any revelations of that.
They have no doubt, ever.
And there's the problem..... | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 10:04:49 AM |
" There is definitely a difference between how Muslims view Allah and how Christians view God:
1. Muslims = Allah is a Detached, Unknowable Deity (not a Heavenly Father)
2. Christians = Jesus is a Personal Savior with a Heavenly Father (Trinitarian) "
The Point is not how people view god and it's differences. That is merely a matter of perspective. The point is the religious extremists on both sides are arguing that Something the christians are calling "God" <-- which this word is not even of Christian origins is fighting with Allah <---- which is the exact pronunciation of Elah the NAME Jesus called God in Aramaic the Language that he Spoke. It is the same God and BOTH sides who are not extremists should be able to come to terms that they are going against their religions and slaughtering their own brothers and sisters whom believe in the Same god! Only the Extremists will be left fighting with each other and they are complete mouth foaming fools on both sides. I say let pat robertson dobson and Palin and Their ilk go fight with bin laden and his ilk! hell get out the MMA cage and let them tear each other apart but, leave the rest of us who actually believe in the peace both Jesus and Mohammad taught in the name of the same god!
The point here is this Young lady from Alaska is a religious extremist who believes just like the religious extremists on the other side that we should be spilling blood in his name to kill other people of the same god! It is a crock of number 2!
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cashu
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 4:57:10 PM | alaska was populated mainly ( except the indains and eskimos ) by criminals . as a place to start again .. so whats changed ..
as far as the law on when you can married it was 12 in tenn. i don,t know much about the other states because i don,t have a need to know .. but just because your married doesn,t mean you can do her before the age of concent ask a mormon if you doubt me .
one more thing i leraned from a muslin . god is god the name is the same .. the volence in the muslin faith comes from the start of the faith when they were persecuted buy the latins and jews at that time .and the reaction was a decred by the mulla,s was THAT it was ok to kill the infidels ..
but all the faiths i have read said one thing you well be judged on what you do in life .. and he never once said that he was opening a drive up window for whiney people who can,t accept what comes to them in there life that they don,t like .....
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/4/2008 5:29:58 PM | The debate is NOT about "God vs Allah"..the real question is "Who is the TRUE God?"
A question that is for an individual to decide for himself... not to impose on others.
Not even to really be concerned when others choose differently.
Certainly not a decision for governments or lawyers or scientists to decide. | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/5/2008 10:59:01 AM |
We all have a History"""""" but it did not hurt the men running for office or in office so why talk about a woman with a history?"""""""
Don't even go there with sexist allegations, does the name Gary Hart mean anything, remember his little mistress Donna Rice? Sure there have been men like Bill Clinton that have overcome similiar accusations. Thing is I wonder how many of those on the right that don't want to talk about a potential affair or the teen pregnancy, wouldn't be talking these things up if it was Obama or Biden on the receiving end. Things that make you go hmmmmmm. | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/5/2008 11:02:11 AM | ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ The candidates themselves are fair game, it's their kids that I take exception to.
And FWIW, I thought the whole witch hunt after Clinton for Lewensky was idiocy. | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/5/2008 12:06:16 PM | Not yet, but according to Palin through her membership in the Alaska Independence Party, it should.
From what I've read, her *husband* was once a member. Any evidence that Sarah Palin was ever a member? | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/5/2008 12:06:54 PM | I posted these links to another thread on Palin but I think the readers in this thread may find them topically valuable to understanding the values that may be driving Palin to hold such ideological values. If she is indeed a parishioner of a Dominionist movement church - a concept that frankly makes me shudder that someone is potentially placed in a VP office one step from the Presidency - then you may wish to check some of these links about this organization which is indeed an extremist Christian version of the Taliban. I wish that were only hyperbole...but such a group intends nothing less than a Christian Theocracy in America and has been working towards it behind the scenes.
Read them and...err...enjoy?:
Some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism
http://www.theocracywatch.org/dominionism.htm
http://www.publiceye.org/christian_right/cr_intro.html
http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v19n3/clarkson_dominionism.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/21/16230/4731
Deconstructing the Dominionists, Part I
Several parts in series (seven I believe)
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/29/163234/559/495/579213
Sarah Palin: Dominionist Stalking Horse
http://www.dailykos.com/tag/Dominionism
Sarah Palin used AK tax dollars to fund dominionist churches
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/2/14422/49170/241/583511
New revelations re "stealth dominionist" Sarah Palin
At Palin Church, Jews For Jesus Head Says Terrorism vs Israel Is God's Punishment
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/3/194046/7340
Website of alaska assemblies of god
http://jccalaska.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer
?GXHC_gx_session_id_FutureTenseContentServer=7035445ca9bc40af
&pagename=FaithHighway/10000/3000/582JU/vision | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/5/2008 1:44:39 PM |
From what I've read, her *husband* was once a member. Any evidence that Sarah Palin was ever a member?
Yes, she switched to the GOP when she ran for mayor in 1996. | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/5/2008 2:09:28 PM | earthpuppy,
"And as most of us now recall, there were 935 lies that led to the invasion and occupation of a nation"
I'm sorry I seemed to have forgotten what they were. Could you please list them again for me? Thanks. | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/5/2008 2:17:41 PM | | I went to an Assembly of God church once...left after hearing about their missions in Mexico and how the Catholics were supported by the Communists...bit over-the top but not as much as Reverend Wright's "Jesus was a black man" preaching... | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/5/2008 6:13:46 PM | I agree with kabiosile that alot of social conservatives are hyprocites, and that they seem to take a very childlike approach to family-planning and bearing children. I think that the sad situation with Sara Palin's daughter only demonstrates how very ineffective abstinence-only sex-education truly is. But this does not surprise me considering Sara Palin's strong "prolife" views. Sadly though, "prolife" really just means probirth. It is a pronatalist philosophy that people should give birth too as many children as they can, as often as they can, without any impedence. It is not necessarily a movement that values all life. The concern is only for the embryo, not for the baby once it is already born. To me, a truly "prolife" position would mean to value life across the board. The very same people who take a prolife position are usually the same people who want to restrict welfare benfits to single mothers who chose to give birth to their babies. They are usually the same ones who have no hesitation to sens some 19 year old off to Vietnam or Iraq to fight in a senseless war. There just does not seem to be any consistency at all.
Another thing that I find troubling is that if Sara Palin did truly have a reverence for life, I would think that this reverence would also include some of the other inhabitants of this planet as well. Including that poor grizzly bear that was shot and killed only so that it can be placed on display in her living room. I have nothing against hunting for food. That is how our ancestors survived, but definately not for sport! Why kill such a magnificent animal for no reason? I guess it is ok if you are prolife. | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/7/2008 6:10:31 PM | | EEEO4U i,m white and i was very entertained by reverend wright . and i agreed with most of it . he only exaggerateda little .. but hey life was pretty bad for them in the 1950s and 1960s ' I went to miss. in the middle of the 60s when it was segragated . life was hard for the blacks . just a little better for the poor whites ... i didn,t know much about the rules then . i went in the rest room for the blacks and used the door for the black tickets for the bus ... people really looked at me bad but hey i needed to take a leak' but on my way back out of the state i got arrested for dWB thrown in jail for dwb in miss. the gave me 60 days and threw me in a black chain gang then the town news paper went wild over it because i was white on a black chain gang .. but it turned out to be one of the most funny times in my life . but it also changed me in the way i thought about blacks . fron then on i saw them the same as i do every body else . but i did see the rank injutice done to them . it wasn,t as bad as people imply but not deserved . any way you say it ..but you can,t treat people like s::t and expect them to love you ... but you can say one thing we have all loss a lot for us to get here . SO GET OVER IT . | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/8/2008 12:24:26 PM | I am amazed how many people still believe the Iraq war was needed. I couldn't believe Bush was voted in the 2nd time after Iraq was already the mess it was. I am beginning to wonder if somehow people are going to believe McCain and Palin, who might be a Bush reincarnated if she believes God wanted that war. I couldn't believe the ex mayor of New York Rudy, whatever his name is, was saying the Iraq war will save America from future events like 911. That the war will be won. As if there could be a winner.
I will never understand the number of people that believe Iraq had something to do with 911. I hope more people think like you do than the last election. Even though I don't really think any President can fix the mess we are in right now. A better senate and congress would be more help. and as long as the two party system controls that part of our country greed will always take over. the only way out of that mess is a third party. least that is what I think and maybe I'm wrong but status Quo doesn't seem to be working. I love the Mark Twain quote. | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/8/2008 1:24:55 PM | To answer the original question, maybe she is right!! I mean if we follow twisted logic that is.!! Think... The war is being paid (at least a BIIIGGGGG % of it) with AMERICAN dollars. The base of our currency says there "in god we trust". Since, according to some other post in some other forums, a big chunk of the american population are "christians", maybe they are following what the other guy said "give cesar's what is cesar's and god what is god" But then again, He said "give to god", not "SPEND THE MONEY THAT BELONGS TO GOD".. We already SPENT A LOT in this war,..uhh.... is god supposed to charge us interest..?? The strangest thing is that, if You add the numbers and divide them by the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, if You include maintenance of equipments, THE PURCHASE of equipment, There are a LOT of inconsistencies. But while the war has been going on, places like Dubai, kuwait and Saudi Arabia are in a BUILDING FRENZY.. SPENDING TONS OF MONEY That EVERYONE ASSUMES comes from oil. But if You look at the production of oil in those places, they do not produce ENOUGH to cover the costs of the infrastructure they're building!! ( and they are not exactly spending that money on "defenses") . And lots of AMERICAN corporations are setting BASE there.. specially Dubai... Sorry, I could not avoid the sarcasm..  ........> | |
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| Sarah Palin Thinks Iraq War is a Task From God
Posted: 9/8/2008 6:31:05 PM | By the way, the same way of thinking, "a task from god" was used as an excuse by some catholic "priest" and other "ministers"
in the late 70's mid 80's (and probably even today)
to ABUSE CHILDREN... !!!! Poor "god"., how many "good" things has been done in HIS name....!!! Don't You think..??.... | |
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