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Posted: 9/10/2008 4:27:21 AM |
In addition Joe Biden will have to run the country, and we've done that for the past 8 years. I'd like a President who's ready for the job.
great. and when McCain kicks in office we can have the mayor of a small town take over. that'll really help. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 4:36:04 AM | great. and when McCain kicks in office we can have the mayor of a small town take over. that'll really help.
Palins choralation song would be "Pink Houses" by John Mellencamp.  | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 7:07:10 AM | No. Your vote does count, but it's still possible for the electoral college vote to favor the candidate who doesn't win the popular vote. This can happen if a candidate captures the large states which have a higher per capita population per elector, like Gore did in 2000, or if one candidate wins his states with a much larger margin than the other candidate.
OK, so the number of electoral votes a state has is not necessarily proportionate to its population? Your explanation makes sense if that is the case. TY Fly. (I still feel like my vote doesn't matter though). | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 7:35:29 AM |
New USA-Gallup Poll has McCain/Palin ticket with a 4 point lead now. (that's the one my source told me about prior to it being officially released and where I got the 4 pts from as posted early yesterday).
and McCain's numbers are shrinking again.
OK, so the number of electoral votes a state has is not necessarily proportionate to its population? Your explanation makes sense if that is the case. TY Fly. (I still feel like my vote doesn't matter though).
Your vote for local representatives matter more as you're not voting for an elector, you're voting for the candidate When you vote for the US Senators and Congressmen, you're voting directly for your representatives. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 8:24:59 AM | and McCain's numbers are shrinking again.
But very little. McCain's bump from his low point, which occurred in the second day of the Republican Convention was -6.7, and he took a pretty significant rise of 9.9 points which peaked on Monday. Since that day he's lost a few fractions off of his high but McCain isn't sinking like a stone like Obama did after his convention. (All numbers in this post from RCP averages).
Now part of that reason that Obama sunk like a stone is that the RNC followed the week after. The Democrats don't have an event that would cause the Republicans to have a similar poll decrease. And if Obama keeps making comments like his "pig/lipstick" gaffe, he could fall lower in the polls or at the very least not get the kind of rise he is seeking. Calling anyone in the opposition a pig, male or female, with or without lipstick, is not going to get you poll numbers.
Absent some kind of bombshell that sticks against the Republicans, my guess is you will see a small tightening in the race through September 26, which is the date of the first Presidental debate. I don't see Obama slugging it out of the park in the debate, but McCain might. If McCain manages that, then his numbers will rise again. Even if McCain doesn't slug it out of the park, if Obama gets snarky, as he is known to do (i.e., pig/lipstick) then the voters will see him like voters saw Al Gore, and McCain's numbers will also rise. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 8:42:37 AM |
or if McCain has a senior moment, which he has been known to have.
or if Palin has to find Iraq on a map. on the other hand, given the fact that she has been pretty much disappeared since the election its doubtful she will get much of a chance to say anything "snarky". in fact, I doubt we'll see much of Sarah right up to election day unless its a completely scripted style McCain town meeting.
talking polls that are within ten points of each other, given the margin of error of polling, is pretty meaningless. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 8:59:40 AM | | I'll agree that any leads at the moment are within the margin of error (which is usually around 3 points, not 10), so the race is a statistical dead heat. However, any lead that Obama did have has evaporated, and I don't see him regaining it absent a good showing in the debates or finding some bombshell to use against the Republicans. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 10:24:54 AM | Not sure if these are out on the Internet yet.
Most polls have McCain with a 3 pt lead. except for MSNBC poll going off the WSJ.. it has Obama with a 1 pt lead. It's the only ione with Obama in the lead at all. MSNBC are not carrying the news of the other Polls.
Also, Citizens Watchdog group, reported by William La Jeunesse, has completed a report on 'pork barrel' spending based on the actual records of the 3 candidates who have served in the senate... McCain..Obama and Biden. On a scale of 0 (being the worst for the benefit of the taxpayers) to 100 (being the best for the taxpayers).
McCain received a score of 100
Obama received a score of 0
Biden received a score of 10
I guess it can be found on the Internet later today via googling the names of the group and via La Jeunesse. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 10:33:17 AM |
Also, Citizens Watchdog group, reported by William La Jeunesse, has completed a report on 'pork barrel' spending based on the actual records of the 3 candidates who have served in the senate... McCain..Obama and Biden. On a scale of 0 (being the worst for the benefit of the taxpayers) to 100 (being the best for the taxpayers).
McCain received a score of 100
Obama received a score of 0
Biden received a score of 10
I guess it can be found on the Internet later today via googling the names of the group and via La Jeunesse.
Is that based on the lies the mccain campaign tells about obama's tax plans?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html
A New Stitch in a Bad Pattern
September 2, 2008
A McCain ad wrongly claims Obama plans "painful tax increases" for working families. And who's talking about deficits?
Summary
McCain's new ad puts another stitch in what we've called his pattern of deceit on Obama's tax plan. This one claims Obama and congressional Democrats plan to push forward "painful tax increases on working American families" and that they will bring about "years of deficits," "no balanced budgets" and "billions in new government spending."
The ad is plain wrong about higher taxes on working families. In fact, Obama's economic plan would produce a tax cut for the majority of American households, with middle-income earners benefiting most. As for "years of deficits," exactly the same claim could be made about McCain's program. It's unlikely either Obama or McCain would balance the budget, and both are projected to increase the debt by trillions.
Hmmm 3rd party candidate anyone?
Polls are a crock of shite! they are not correct now nor will they ever be. The only way to really know what people think of a situation is on election day. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 10:34:19 AM |
And if Obama keeps making comments like his "pig/lipstick" gaffe, he could fall lower in the polls or at the very least not get the kind of rise he is seeking. Calling anyone in the opposition a pig, male or female, with or without lipstick, is not going to get you poll numbers.
Absent some kind of bombshell that sticks against the Republicans, my guess is you will see a small tightening in the race through September 26, which is the date of the first Presidental debate.
The "lipstick on a pig" kerfuffle is another example of just how much control the GOP has over the media. It's a pretty common expression, used regularly. Nobody really thinks he was making a sexist remark directed at anyone. But they've got control of the agenda.
I was watching the often referred to as "liberal" CNN and they covered the lobbyists in McCain's war room. But they provided "balance" by saying that Biden's son works for a credit card company. It's perfectly alright to repeat verbatem Republican complaints, no matter how flimsy. But provable, factual Democratic criticisms have to be "balanced" by the Republican response.
And there's already a bombshell that the media is leaving alone: the Bridge to Nowhere. The McCain/Biden ticket is using her "opposition" to it in speeches, ads and literature. Yet she was all for it until after it was killed by Congress. And she hasn't seen fit to give the money back. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 10:48:53 AM | anytime you see a study that, on a scale of 100 to 0, shows difference of 100 to 0 on anything, much less tax issues, you can pretty much call it waste paper.
virtually nothing, much less taxes, is that quantifiable. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 10:54:10 AM |
And there's already a bombshell that the media is leaving alone: the Bridge to Nowhere.
Huh??? Where ya been? The media has been all over that. Saturated it till it was dripping. Milked the controversy for all it could squeeze out of it.
Heck, there's a ground swell of over ..now...40... was 30 and is growing... Democrats pouring over everything Sarah Palin has ever done or touched ...in her life. These Liberals are in Alaska... and, they are getting personal and professional stuff of Palin's. I heard they are trying to get the local People there to talk about Palin and the state of Ak are telling them what good Palin has/is doing. Making the Democrats angrier and angrier it appears. So far, they can't get any 'dirt' on her... from the time she was born till right now.
Two anchors Chris M and Keith O are demoted because this on top of the Rather biased has caused NBC/MSNBC ratings to plunge... Viewers started tuning out when the biased viewpoints became outrageous. They watched what the Media did to Clinton on behalf of darling Obama and now... there is nomore unbiased reporting there at all. It's disgusting what they have done to the Media reputation in general.
Ewwwwww to MSNBC and to NBC for allowing it to go on this long. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 11:07:45 AM |
pretty funny that research on Obama is still ongoing by the conservative media and a week and half is plenty unearth any problems Palin might have.
background checks to work at McDonalds take longer than than seven days. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 11:25:16 AM | Halftimedad --
You would think that Barack Obama is smart enough not to use a saying like "lipstick on a pig" after Sarah Palin had used the whole barracuda/lipstick/hockey mom thing in her speech. No, it wasn't a direct comment about Palin, but do you think Obama would have used this phrase if Palin hadn't included a similar phrase in her VP acceptance speech? I bet he knew what was going to happen even before the commercial came out (which btw, doesn't directly accuse Obama of calling Palin a pig -- with or without lipstick).
Biden's son not only works for a credit card company, he was just accused of fraud in two lawsuits:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082302200.html
I wonder if CNN mentioned that?
The bridge to nowhere wasn't exactly killed by Congress. Alaska was awarded $223 billion towards the "bridge to nowhere", that is the Gavina Island Bridge which was supposed to connect Ketchikan, Alaska, to the Ketchikan International Airport on Gravina Island. The airport is now only accessible by ferry. Sarah Palin later said they were about $322 short of funding and abandoned the project.
While Congress refused to grant more funds to the project, the $223 billion was stripped of the earmark after which Alaska was free to use the funds as it saw fit. Congress didn't ask for the funds to be returned.
If Alaska wanted to kick in the rest of the money, then it could have been built. Palin decided that it wasn't worth the money, and decided to abandon the project. So in essence, she did kill the bridge to nowhere, however she wasn't always opposed to the bridge. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 11:29:25 AM |
No, it wasn't a direct comment about Palin, but do you think he would have used this phrase if Palin hadn't included a similar phrase in her VP acceptance speech?
Actually, there are lots of examples cited elsewhere where Obama (and others) have used that expression in the past. It's one of the more common metaphors in political circles. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 11:39:40 AM | "Two anchors Chris M and Keith O are demoted because this on top of the Rather biased has caused NBC/MSNBC ratings to plunge... Viewers started tuning out when the biased viewpoints became outrageous. "
Wow! Palin lies about her support and taking federal funds for the bridge to nowhere and because the media actually reports that she did this and then used the funds for other things they lose their jobs?
thanks for proving my case that the media is controlled by the Republican Corporate Machine. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2008 11:52:11 AM | The RNC bump is erroding. Here are today's poll results. (I like that this site shows many of the polls and the history).
RealClearPolitics Poll Averages
General Election: McCain vs. Obama
______ ____Poll Date Sample _____McCain (R)___ Obama (D)____ Spread
RCP Average 09/05 - 09/09 -- ______ 47.4 ______ 45.1 ______ McCain +2.3
FOX News 09/08 - 09/09 900 RV____ 45 ______ 42 ______ McCain +3
Gallup Track 09/07 - 09/09 2714 RV__ 48______ 43 ______ McCain +5
Rasmussen 09/07 - 09/09 3000 LV ___47 ______ 48 ______ Obama +1
NBC/Wall SJ 09/06 - 09/08 860 RV ___45 ______ 46 ______ Obama +1
Hotline/FD 09/06 - 09/08 924 RV ____45 ______ 44______ McCain +1
ABC/W Post 09/05 - 09/07 LV ______ 49______ 47______ McCain +2
U Today/Gallup 09/05 - 09/07 823 LV__ 54 ______ 44______ McCain +10
CBS 09/05 - 09/07 655 RV ______ 46 ______ 44 ______ McCain +2
CNN/OpRsrch 09/05 - 09/07 942 RV ___48 ______ 48 ______ Tie
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Posted: 9/10/2008 11:59:56 AM | This was pretty much to be expected - the numbers are going to bounce around for a while.
It looks like Gallup is the rogue poll here. Again not surprising - all other polling firms use more scrupulous polling methods, so Gallup tends to have more frequent weird results.
Look for the McCain/Palin campaign to try to shift focus away from themselves and on to Obama/Biden as much as possible. It's worked so far, and worked really well for Bush in 04. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2008 6:02:49 PM | US: Obama 49, McCain 44 (CBSTimes-9/12-16)
By Eric Dienstfrey
CBS News / New York Times
9/12-16/08; 1,004 RV, 3%
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
(CBS story, results; NYT story, results)
National
Likely Voters:
Obama 49, McCain 44
Registered Voters
Obama 48, McCain 43
(9/3: Obama 42, McCain 42)
Gallup Daily: Obama 47%, McCain 45%
Diageo/Hotline 9/14-16/08
McCain 42
Obama 45
DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 9/14-16/08
McCain 44
Obama 48
Gallup 9/14-16/08
McCain 45
Obama 47
CBS/Times 9/12-16/08
McCain 44
Obama 49
ARG 9/13-15/08
McCain 48
Obama 45
Ipsos/McClatchy 9/11-15/08
McCain 45
Obama 45
I'm having an inkling that McCain will be circling the drain in a minute... | |
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Posted: 9/17/2008 6:13:37 PM | You guys we must be fair. FoxNews has McCain in the lead by 3%.
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FOX News Poll: McCain Leads Obama 45% to 42%
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So, let us report all of the polls before we are accused of being biased and only picking out the many other polls that have Obama regaining ground.
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