| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/3/2008 1:56:39 PM | 1. Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party in the 90's. This is a group that works to advance the cause of Alaskan Cecession from the United States. Perhaps she wanted to insure her child was born in Alaska and not Texas? Except, she could have had her child in Anchorage when she landed. Instead she chose to drive an additional 40 minutes to Wasilla, where they list their facilities as a birthing center. The Anchorage hospital delivers more babies than any other in Alaska and has a Neonatal ICU, which is important if you're having a premature baby with an underdeveloped heart.
2. Perhaps Palin was aware that her child had Down's Syndrome prior to birth? If she had given birth to the preemie on the plane, it would have certainly died before arrival. She took so many risks that don't make sense. Typically when your water breaks on a preemie birth, you are rushed to the hospital and they keep an eye on you. They don't put you on a plane and fly you 3,000 miles across the country then put you in a car for another 40 minutes.
CHALK IT UP TO ANOTHER REALLY BAD DECISION MAKING PROCESS | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/3/2008 2:20:00 PM |
you're insinuating that a woman tried to kill her yet unborn child because he had Downs Syndrome and I'm supposed to fulfill your request to put a motive to her actions....
why don't you wait for the next edition of the National Enquirer then maybe you'll have your answer...
your post and that rag are both comparably despicable
I'm not saying she did it so the baby wouldn't survive, but the child dying in transit was a very plausible scenario.
So your options are either she's too dumb to know better...or she intended it to happen.
You can choose.
For someone who wants to legislate treatment of the unborn, she played pretty dangerously with her unborn child, simply so she could make a speech.
At the same time, she cuts funding in her state for a halfway house for young single moms.
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 10:17:31 AM |
Bottom line - it WAS her choice. She got to choose what she actions she took, how and when - not the pundits, not the critics, no one else.
^^^This is exactly my stance on abortin and should be hers too, since it was about choice. | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 10:30:39 AM | It was an extremely risky choice given her situation. It's great though that you believe she should have the choice on what to do with her body and her pregnancy even though she would deny that right to others.
Bottom line - it WAS her choice. She got to choose what she actions she took, how and when - not the pundits, not the critics, no one else. None of us were there with her | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 10:33:17 AM | edisto, re:"""" this is incredibly, horribly, digustingly.... about the worse thing I have had the displeasure to read on POF I don't give a flying fvck if you are for or against her as a candidate, but as a human to a human, WTF is YOUR humanity! ""
Maybe it is an ugly question to ask and an awful one to think about...........but......for most women, your water breaking means to get your butt to a hospital to deliver.......and instead, Palin ignored it and go on a plane for a cross-country flight?
That is just too wierd not to wonder about. | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 12:21:34 PM | What I really want to know is WHY she brought the little one into that screaming crowd last night. Specially in the condition the kid is at.. NO MOTHER THAT I KNOW WOULD DO THAT..!!  What was she thinking..?? Where the hell was social services..?? They should take AWAY the kid form her.... | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 12:37:59 PM | Well, I thought things couldn't have gone lower in these forums, but I was wrong!
What are you going to do next? Ask for her gynecoligst records, so you can discuss the health of her reproductive organs? Peep through her windows while she's having sex?
And in any event, what does this have to do with politics outside of the fact that Palin is in public office.
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 12:47:57 PM | I read about this story over a week ago.
There are also some people who say it isn't her child at all but rather her daughters.
She went back to work only 3 days after giving birth.
She's called it hers to avoid the negative publicity.
How come it's always her daughter who holds the baby, what about the father ?
Oh, this is all so ..... sorid. | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 12:50:17 PM | Its incredibly rare that I would agree with Flyonthewall, infact its probably unheard of. But the depths to which some sink never ever seems to limit itself.
However since the issue has been brought to public light Flyonthewall I do have to disagree with it having no basis with politics. Its a decision that was made and that makes it part of the discussion when faced with situations how does she respond. The sad truth of the matter is McCain has had health issues, he is old, he has had cancer, he is mortal he can and sad to say it is even likely may die in office. That puts Palin's hand on the football. That makes it a very important issue when faced with emotional situations does she make the right choices.
If this is indeed true she put politics ahead of her health and her childs health, by virtue of this she put the state of Alaska at risk for poltics, and gambled again in flying back. For reasons we are not privy to and for now do not matter. It was a POOR set of decisions both going to Texas and far worse flying in her condition. With such mistaken judgements on that alone are you comfortable with her having her as the one holding the power to essentially whipe out life on the planet? | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 2:54:04 PM | OP. The article explains that she spoke to her consulting Dr, discussed what was happening and with her Dr the decision was made that she would be OK to fly. No where does it say that she was advised to go to the hospital but refused, no where does it say that she went against her Dr's advise and endangered the baby. So if her Dr was Ok with this and he obviously is more aware and informed about her pregnancy and a trained physician, why is everyone jumping on this woman? Women give birth every minute of the day, many of those births are not in sterile hospitals where the woman has been sequestered until the big day. So if her Dr was Ok with this, why isnt everyone else?
I have to laugh at all the men who claim that she made a bad decision or put politics ahead of her family. Can someone please explain how this was a decision that made based on some type of emotional basis? That is ludicrous, millions of pregnant women work every day in less than ideal conditions, millions of women travel while pregnant, millions of women contine to work up until the day they give birth, are these women putting their child at risk? Womens bodies are made to have children and they have been delivering them for 1000's of years without modern medicine and we managed to survive as a species. BUT, this woman made an decison that was made based on advice and input from her OBGYN and somehow this is an "emotional" decision? | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 3:18:04 PM | It was her "choice"...as if she is ''pro choice''...It was an idiotic decision. I was three weeks late, I had a stress test with pitocin, my water broke when I went home, and I freaked out, the doctor saw me and sent me home...said I should go into labor and let them know. I was wanting so desperately to be in a hospital around professionals, not at home. I didn't go into labor and they admitted me the next morning. They even told me once your water breaks the risk of infections is increased. I had to be induced.
There is no excuse for what she did. Family and friends could have flown to her. When I saw her holding Trig last night, she didn't appear to be a doting mom. I think she kissed him on the cheek once but most of the time her eyes were on the crowd. | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 3:20:08 PM |
I have to laugh at all the men who claim that she made a bad decision or put politics ahead of her family. Can someone please explain how this was a decision that made based on some type of emotional basis? That is ludicrous, millions of pregnant women work every day in less than ideal conditions, millions of women travel while pregnant, millions of women contine to work up until the day they give birth, are these women putting their child at risk?
Maybe you didn't read the story.
She didn't "work while pregnant," nor "travel while pregnant." She travelled 10 hours while IN LABOUR. That's fruit loop crazy. I know I'm just a man, and I apparently have no right to express an opinion about this - but this woman is comparable to a woman doing crack while pregnant. And at least the crack mother has the excuse of addiction. | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 5:39:53 PM | "That is ludicrous, millions of pregnant women work every day in less than ideal conditions, millions of women travel while pregnant, millions of women contine to work up until the day they give birth, are these women putting their child at risk? Womens bodies are made to have children and they have been delivering them for 1000's of years without modern medicine and we managed to survive as a species. BUT, this woman made an decison that was made based on advice and input from her OBGYN and somehow this is an "emotional" decision?"
And yes, what is the mortality rate for newborn babies in the U.S.?
http://mchb.hrsa.gov/mchirc/chusa_04/pages/0405iimr.htm
(These rates are for the year 2000. Out of 28 countries, U.S. ranked 27 with a infant mortality rate of 6.9.)
http://209.217.72.34/VitalStats/TableViewer/tableView.aspx
Infant deaths and mortality rate by state: US, 1995-2004
OTHER: Measure (Infant Mortality Rate)
Year 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003
State
Alaska 7.52 7.17 7.64 5.94 6.03 6.92 7.90 5.63 6.84"
From the Vital Stats table, note for the year 2000, note the rate of 6.92 for the year 2000, and 6.84 for the year 2003.
The United States has one of the highest infant mortality rates (from birth up to one year).
The older a woman is and the more children she has increases the risks of encountering problems in the final month of her pregnancy, especially the 9th month of pregnancy. The fact that Sarah Palin flew for 8 hours (while leaking amniotic fluid), and then travelled for several hours before reaching the hospital of her choice, leads me to believe that she showed no concern at all for her unborn child, terrible lack of judgment on her part.
I have six children, so have some experience as to what this would mean.
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/4/2008 5:50:17 PM | I think she kissed him on the cheek once but most of the time her eyes were on the crowd.
I think it would be best if we refrain from some sort of quota system for determining how well/much she loves her children. It's not really the sort of thing we should be questioning at all. | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/5/2008 3:58:34 AM | ^^^^^^^^
think she kissed him on the cheek once but most of the time her eyes were on the crowd.
I think it would be best if we refrain from some sort of quota system for determining how well/much she loves her children. It's not really the sort of thing we should be questioning at all.
oh, the hypocrisy of it all
let's imply Palin wanted her special needs baby DEAD
but let's not question if we can tell if she loves her child by how many times she kissed him
these are not the democrats I once had pride in, these are the new Nancy Grace & National Enquirer brand....ones who say they hate Bill O'reilly and yet, they are no different from him when it comes to sleaze
"the times they are a changin"...for the worse ! | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/5/2008 4:51:54 AM |
these are not the democrats I once had pride in, these are the new Nancy Grace & National Enquirer brand....ones who say they hate Bill O'reilly and yet, they are no different from him when it comes to sleaze
i'm pretty sure none of the people in here are actual spokes people for the democratic party. You know how people can get, I think the important thing is that Obama has done his best to move this sort of thing into the background.
Of course we all know how much credit you give him  | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/5/2008 5:38:06 AM |
She didn't "work while pregnant," nor "travel while pregnant." She travelled 10 hours while IN LABOUR. That's fruit loop crazy. I know I'm just a man, and I apparently have no right to express an opinion about this - but this woman is comparable to a woman doing crack while pregnant. And at least the crack mother has the excuse of addiction.
It doesn't matter if you're a man or not..you're right in that what she did was reckless and showed poor judgment. Especially so knowing that her pregnancy was not routine and because of her age the risk for complications was much higher. It was also her 5th pregnancy... chances are labour would have been shorter than it was on her first 4. I have also seen no evidence that there were medical personnel on board. She really shouldn't have taken the chance.
My water broke at home on my second child. I called the hospital to let them know I was coming and they put me on antibiotics through IV as soon as I was settled in my room. They started with the pitocin to hurry it along because every hour passed increased the risk of infection.
Most of the mothers I've talked to about this think that she unnecessarily put herself and her child at risk. | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/5/2008 5:57:09 AM | Fly on the wall:
Well, I thought things couldn't have gone lower in these forums, but I was wrong!
What are you going to do next? Ask for her gynecoligst records, so you can discuss the health of her reproductive organs? Peep through her windows while she's having sex?
And in any event, what does this have to do with politics outside of the fact that Palin is in public office.
It's amazing, isn't it?
The judgment that creates threads like these, that ponders on them at length, dissecting every little thing about this woman in pure and absolute desperation, prying and salivating to find anything that can be used to discredit our future Vice President.
My, she's a threat to the Democrats, isn't she? I honestly don't think I've read more obvious desperation on this board before. All the supposition, it has nothing to do with politics.
And were we to begin prying into the birthing records of Ms. Obama, I wonder what the reaction would be. And how do we know that there aren't nude pictures of her out there? Shall we begin to search?
What about when she was in college, hammering away in her angst on the mean white people of the world, and what did she do when her water broke, hmm? Was she a BAD mother? Then perhaps we should check out Joe Biden's unfortunate loss of his family and find out if the whole thing really was an accident, hmm?
And what about Obama? What about the rumors regarding the gay man, Larry Sinclair, who reports that he supposedly had homosexual encounters with Obama? Shall I dig up some of the youtubes and National Enquirer scandals about that and begin a thread?
I'm asking these foul questions purposely in order to make a point, for those of you who are obtuse enough not to get it. My point is that yes, we could all sink lower than a worm's belly, couldn't we? It shocks me in that as this is a dating site first and foremost, I would think people would pause before sending their warped, vile considerations for our viewing. I would think they would have the common decency to be embarrassed, but I suppose this is just too much to hope for. | |
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/5/2008 6:45:56 AM | ^^^^^^^^
yeah, I was watching pictures of McCain greeting Bristols boyfriend and shaking hands with him.
"good job young man. keep up the good work."
fabulous. just what we need in America today. more kids having kids.
oh, so you hold it against McCain for what, shaking hands with him...
maybe he should have skipped him altogether to show how awful it is that he impregnanted a 17 year old
after all who needs more kids having kids in America?
oh wait, wasn't Obama's mother 18 when she had him?
isn't it ironic.............don't ya think~
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| Sarah Palin Flew From Texas to Alaska After Her Water Broke?
Posted: 9/5/2008 7:32:12 AM | These subjects on the forums are getting pretty pathetic.
I think I will ask the Mods to have an Politic/National Enquirer forum instead of a Politic forum.
This just in....
John McCain refuses to shake hands with Bristol's boyfriend...Claims Boy has Sasquatch tendencies..perhaps hairy hands.
Blah! | |
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