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| | Palin Bombshell about to be exposed?Page 12 of 13 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13) | Yes, somehow flyonthewall knows that McCain WILL line-item veto earmarks. Did one of those 'economists and experts' tell her that too? And, if you read my note carefully, I did say military + others including health care, education etc. And those #'s you quoted are pretty stupid. A marine in the military DOES NOT make over $200k.
I'm going to preface this by telling you to STOP IMMEDIATELY with the personal comments. Next time I stop by the violations forum. Fortunately for you, I keep my opinions about trolls and flame baiters to myself.
Getting back to the point.
As I said the last time MOST PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT ARE NOT IN THE MILITARY. And, FWIW, senior officers in the military most certainly do make $200K when you include benefits. The numbers I quoted were directly from the Government Services pay scale. Go look it up.
I said that MC CAIN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO LINE-BY-LINE VETO, which is exactly the opposite of what you claim I said above.
Please READ the statements, and if you criticize do it based on what I actually said (in fact quoting what you dispute would be good).
Reading is fundamental.
Just flame me one more time . . .
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Not the point. McCain has been in the Senate for 21 years, so he's had the experience of actually BEING a Senator. Obama has missed his entire Senatorial experience by running for President and being absent. Basically he has NO Senatorial experience because he's spent so little time doing his job. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 8:01:50 PM | "My favorite comment last week was from Jon Stewart of the Daily Show. He was talikint to Newt about Palin's foreign policy experience coming from Alaska being close to Russia (I can't believe one of the McCain team said this on TV). He said well the North Pole is close to Alaska too, that must mean she knows Santa! I'm still laughing about this one."
I'll have the priviledge to illuminate to those reading this a something that the many, especially those in the lower 48, are very ignorant of because they actually have absolutely no knowledge about it, neither the media, or anything they would let on knowing about.
I know about this and it's extensiveness because my dad worked on a few of the original radar sites up here during the cold war era that are based along the west coast of Alaska as a civilian personal on a military site. The military runs them, but the various governors have over saw them and what goes on and what is observed. A bit of forign policy actually goes with the job as an Alaska governor. What Alaska governors have reported of Russia over the past decades no doubt help to shape policies. Before the lower 48 ever really knew about it, our governors had been doing the political thing with Russian politicians to it's military leaders to their embassadors for decades. The job as an Alaska governor deals heavily with the national security of the entire USA. Not many know that as Alaska is also referred to as the attic door to the USA. Our governor addresses Washington directly in many matters concerning national security that the other 49 governors never get experience with because security for them is just about their state. Because we are so close to Russia, our governors become very military orientated regarding state and national security issues. Our governors become well versed on forign policies with Russia because we are the only state that sits within eye sight.
Palin is now the governor. She is dealing with issues she'll never be able to elaborate on or to use to benefit her political career. She maybe a newby for higher office politics but in her year and a half as governor she has more experience with dealing with one of the largest feared nations on the earth then any present governor could hope to get experience with. As a vp, she would have experience in national security and forign policy we will never be told about. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 8:29:06 PM | What is this about her having to attend six schools to receive a BS from the University of Idaho? Is this true? If so, yes that is an insult to many educated women. I pray this is another nasty rumor.
I know someone will say this shows how she connects with the common man, but she is not running for governor of Alaska with a population of 626,932. There are more people in Houston (Harris county only 2,016,582). We have 13,561 in Katy, Texas a suburb of Houston. Better yet, 74, 189 Sugarland, Texas (another suburb of Houston).
Have a blessed day! | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 8:38:15 PM |
Obama has missed 231 of the last 398 votes in the Senate, dating back through July of last year. That means his attendance record since last July is he's been absent 58% of the time. Now I don't know about you, but if I elect someone to "represent" me in the Senate, that's not the "representation" I'd expect. And I definitely think not even showing up half the time counts as "squandering" the seat.
Try showing up only 42% of the time for YOUR job and see how long you're employed.
McCain has missed 146 of the last 179 votes in the Senate, dating back through July of last year. That means his attendance record since last July is he's been absent 82% of the time. Now I don't know about you, but if I elect someone to "represent" me in the Senate, that's not the "representation" I'd expect. And I definitely think not even showing up half the time counts as "squandering" the seat.
Try showing up only 18% of the time for YOUR job and see how long you're employed.
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270
Interestingly, McCain doesn't have his voting record available on his official website. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 8:38:31 PM | Palin is also the most popular Governor in the country, despite her limited years.
That doesn't come easy as we can see how the White House and Congress stack up next to that lofty number of Palin's.
Andrea Mitchell MSNBC says, "Anyone with an education will never vote for Palin". I hate to say it, because until this campaign began, I always thought rather highly of Mitchell, but that's a very rash, unfounded thing to say. However she's really been slipping in recent months. It would appear she may have been around Keith Olbermann a little too long.. The latter of whom, by the way, came absolutely unglued last week in a head-on confrontation with Joe Scarborough. GO JOE! I had a feeling that was likely to happen one day. Olbermann lives in LaLa Land.
As for education, it's great stuff when folks have the opportunities to get it, but it doesn't dictate common sense, fundamental IQ, street-smarts or better judgment. Some of the smartest people I know don't even have degrees.
-Suth'nBoy 
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 8:48:12 PM | I am sorry, she attended five schools to obtain an B.S degree from the University of Idaho. Please forgive me!
She is as qualified as Clinton with a BA Wellesley College, 1969; JD Yale University, 1973. NOT!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
Obama/Biden 08 | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 9:10:41 PM | That's true about governing Alaska qualifies for quite a bit of foreign policy. The National Guard there are totally upset with the Media in the lower 48 due to their spin doctors on Sarah Palin's qualifications. In an Interview, it was stated that the first thing Palin did was to address issues which centered on the National Guard...she got up to speed very fast and went Overseas as quickly as she could. They respect Palin.
Alaska hold mucho foreign policy and energy issues. Palin has demonstrated she can handle it all. She shows her confidence and this is what frightens the Liberals to the point of running around acting totally whaco like they are. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 9:18:15 PM | I admire her confidence and skills as a politician. She certainly knows how to 'work' the media. But that comes from her beauty pageant experience and communication/journalism training.
I want to know can she handle the potential VP position and likely POTUS job.
What frightens me is the thought that she and McCain are going to continue George Bush's policies for another 4 years if they are elected.
Obama/Biden 2008!!  | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 9:24:51 PM | Really? "Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin "extremely responsive and smart" and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder.
But, in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations."
About the 'fear' issue.... "No doubt the campaign staff have her hooked up to a fire hose on foreign policy issues," said Stephen C. Donehoo, managing director of Kissinger McLarty Associates in Washington and a former military intelligence officer.
"No doubt they fear a debate with Joe Biden that touches foreign affairs," Donehoo said. "My guess is Graham and (Joe) Lieberman are doing a lot of tutoring."
Who's afraid of whom again? | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 9:26:57 PM | I just find it interesting how some had an abject hatred for her the second she was announced (without even knowing her).
I can just imagine how her critics feel now that McCain/Palin have a 10% lead from the latest poll.
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/us_mccain_54_obama_44_usatoday.php?loc=interstitialskip
I can almost quote some of your responses. It will be a paraphrase of, "well there has to be some reason why they are ahead because our side is the natural course anything else is unnatural and of course a mistake or should writen off in some way." | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 10:17:57 PM |
Obama has missed 231 of the last 398 votes in the Senate, dating back through July of last year.
McCain has missed 146 of the last 179 votes in the Senate, dating back through July of last year. Charlemagne, obviously one of us is wrong. You came up with a total of 179 votes, I came up with a total of 398 votes, in the same period of time. Not sure who's right or wrong, as I couldn't make any sense out of the site you referenced - it seems to mix up votes from all sorts of different dates, rather than listing them all chronologically.
Also, there's the little matter that this term is Obama's ONLY term, and if he's basically not showing up and participating, that means he has almost NO experience in the Senate, unlike McCain who has served continuously since 1986. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 10:19:16 PM | just find it interesting how some had an abject hatred for her the second she was announced (without even knowing her). Why on Earth do we need to "know" her? I know where she stands on issues that are important to me, that's all I need to know about her.
Anti-choice Anti-sex education Anti-birth control Anti-science Anti-environment Anti-health care Anti-education Pro-censorship Pro-sport hunting Pro-war
To name a few off the top of my head. Plus, she lies. Nope, she can just stay on the bus. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 10:22:13 PM | OK Dems, time to "fish or cut bait" as it were. The OP posted this sensationalist topic about a "Palin Bombshell" and said:
From the people who brought us the Edwards story, apparently they are going to expose a similar story about Palin and her husband.
I heard rumors ranging from affair to being swingers. . . Perhaps we found her excape clause after all. . .
Not sure when the news is suppose to break, but anything this juicy should happen by Friday. Faith keeps asking everyone to stay on topic - the topic is a "Palin Bombshell" to be released by Friday. OK, Friday has passed. Saturday has passed. Sunday has passed. Sounds to me like its time to put up or shut up on this sensationalist thread. exodus, faith, the rest of you, where's the "bombshell"??  | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 10:40:31 PM | Hey, I never bought it to begin with. But I do believe in the coming weeks that we will really get to know the truth about who this woman really is. As I said many times before, NOBODY KNOWS SARAH PALIN! Nobody. And she's not helping her cause by hiding out. She finally agreed to do an interview BUT with SPECIAL CONDITIONS ATTACHED. Why? What is she afraid of? Seriously folks, are you guys really ready to put someone in her position one heartbeat away from being in charge of the free world? The same thing happened with Bush and look where that got us. When she starts getting hit with hard questions is when we'll all know what we need to know about her. But right now, we got nothing but a very thin resume, and a host of lies that she's going to have to face when the questions about, the investigation, bridge to nowhere, fiscal responsibility, her hiring lobbyist, selling the jet on ebay, her support / association with the Alaska Independent Party (they want Alaska to be independent from America.) and more.
Like Faith says... we'll see. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/7/2008 11:36:13 PM | "As I said many times before, NOBODY KNOWS SARAH PALIN! Nobody. And she's not helping her cause by hiding out."
Actually the lower 49 states don't know Palin. We in Alaska do. We have known her since her mayor days. She is strongly opinionated. But unlike it was voiced above, she doesn't make her opinions into laws. She weighs the evidence, consults and makes decisions like tackling the oil companies that no other Alaska governor would do for Alaska's profit and gain and we now have billions in the treasury from the last years oil prices.
And just my opinion of the governor and watching how she is with the media here in Alaska, Palin does not let the media controll her like other political canidates or politicians do. She doesn't kiss their *ss so they'll say nice things about her. Palin has always used the media for the real purpose the media is suppose to be there for, to give information to the people when they need to hear things. She has refused to let the media run her life up here and keeps her mouth shut when around them for most of the time. She knows how the media can take a word and twist it for their profit. She is not allowing to let lower 48 media run her any more then the Alaskan media and that just pisses off the lower 48 media. The lower 48 media want to do to her what they do to Obama and Bush and Clinton and all the rest. The media is a blood sucking machine and takes no prisoners and Palin knows that and you watch and see if I am not correct, watch her future interviews and note how she runs them instead of the interviewer running her. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/8/2008 12:04:41 AM | Montana... I respectfully disagree with this statement of yours
"Watch her future interviews and note how she runs them instead of the interviewer running her."
This is a WHOLE OTHER LEVEL friend. A COMPLETELY different ball park she's going to have to deal with. She has now entered the big league on a scale that is GLOBAL not local. Every word out of her mouth will be heard not just from the U.S. but across the globe. Her handlers will CAREFULLY make sure she doesn't say ANYTHING to piss of the wrong people inside and outside the U.S. The Sarah you guys THOUGHT you knew in Alaska is currently being transformed into a Sarah I GUARANTEE you WONT RECOGNIZE. If McCain couldn't resist his change from "Maverick" to "Bush II" then what makes you think Ms. Palin can resist? And he's been in politics most of his life... just think what's going to happen to Palin in the next 60 days. Thats if she gives more than one CAREFULLY controlled softball interview. When the tough questions start coming then you'll really see 1. If she tells the truth, 2. Carefully evades simple question, 3. Knows what she's talking about and 4. Most importantly, shows PLANET EARTH if she's actually qualified to be a heart beat away from being leader of the free world. If she does, then she will have proved herself to be a REMARKABLE PERSON but... unfortunately, with scandal looming, hiding from reporters, severely thin resume... questionable ethics, questionable dealings, questionable associates (AIP) I DONT THINK SO. Umm... its hard for a tiger to change it's stripes. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/8/2008 12:21:06 AM | OMG....THE RAG MAG AGAIN.. Soooo tell me...If this was so...then why wasnt it used against her in the Governor campaigne?
What about the Obama is gay accusation..
All a bunch of crap.
So sad that magazines and others are so quick to try to ruin someones reputation..
Gossip Gossip Gossip...Not a very good thing..
Bad ...sad ... thread.
As far as McCain and Palin doing more of the same...I really dont think so..I think you will pleasantly surprised..They are shakers and movers...She is definatly not one to conform to the 'system' as it is...She wants to make it the 'system' it SHOULD be.. Thats o.k. with me...McCain is military minded...she is home (America first) minded..Excellent combo. All bases covered..Give them a chance.. Opps..Im talking as if they have already won the election..I learned it from 'The Secret" LOL | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/8/2008 12:57:24 AM | Dallas Flier, you are echoing my refrain to the OP - we want the beef, not the bull. Come on OP - where's the scandal you promised us by Friday? You realize, if you don't come up with something soon, we'll recognize you for the crapshooter you are starting to look like. Maybe you can call your friends at the Enquirer and ask them when they'll be publishing these revelations you have promised us? You WILL get back to us on this, right? | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/8/2008 12:59:28 AM | Oh my God!! Somebody actually printed something as silly as that???
No doubt they fear a debate with Joe Biden that touches foreign affairs," Donehoo said. "My guess is Graham and (Joe) Lieberman are doing a lot of tutoring." Graham and Lieberman couldn't tutor their way out of a cardboard box! Especially Graham. After 10 minutes, Ms Palin would be tutoring those two 3-Stooges-refugees on how to skin a moose in the driving snow..
I rather like Joe Biden, but I seriously doubt he is even the least bit excited about facing-down Governor Palin.
-Suth'nBoy 
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/8/2008 3:55:47 AM | I wouldn't want EITHER of them operating on me, but given the choice, I'd probably go with the nurse with 20 years real world experience, provided she was a surgical nurse with an advanced degree. The simple fact is that education often does outweigh real life experience. Try becoming an officer in the military without having a degree and see how far that "real life experience" gets you.
The fact is, education DOES outweigh real life experiences. That's the entire reason people go to college. If it didn't mean as much as experience, then why would anyone go to college at all? Wouldn't they be better off joining the work force and getting a 4 year head start over all of the college students? According to you...yes. But according to real life statistics, not really.
And speaking of "Real Life Experiences", I would just like to point out (since this thread was originally intended to be about Palin) that Sarah Palin didn't even have a Passport until 2 years ago. What could she know of foreign policy? At least Obama and Biden have both spent time overseas.
And as far as earmarks go, Sarah Palin has been called the "Earmark Queen of the Earmark State". Between 2000 and 2003 she secured more than $27 million in earmarks for her town of about 7,000 people. That's 6.7 million per year. That's nearly $1,000 for each person in her town each year. More than 10 times the amount of most other towns in America.
Palin is also the most popular Governor in the country, despite her limited years. Believe it or not, popularity doesn't qualify anyone to be president. And have you ever wondered why it is that she's so popular? Could it be because of the not-so-legitimate job she's been doing? Could it be because she is currently under investigation for unethical misuse of political power? Could it be because she's the only person in America that seems to spend money more liberally than our current president? I didn't think that was possible.
Michael Jackson is popular, but I don't think that we will ever have to worry about him being president.
I rather like Joe Biden, but I seriously doubt he is even the least bit excited about facing-down Governor Palin. When you lie to the American public during your acceptance speech, as Palin did, then all credibility is lost in my eyes. She may talk the good talk, but she will have a hard time backing it up. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/8/2008 4:18:56 AM | Personally I don't think Palin was the one that got exposed. She maybe got exposure and many people, right, middle, and left like what they see.
Usually when someone gets "exposed" people reject the exposed. Bad things happen like poll numbers fall or people don't trust the exposed anymore...people get fired.
Has anyone seen any evidence of Palin suffering from being exposed? I see a huge wave of signs that some did get exposed but not anything to do with Palin.
An example of exposure would be Hillary's refusal to do a hitjob on Palin...she got good exposure...she looks good for not doing that = good exposure!
An example of exposed would be a report saying that Hillary was asked to expose Palin by Obama's campaign...Obama doesn't look good asking some on to do that for him = exposed.
Now that doesn't mean that some out there might be willing to take on Obama's request to expose Palin and we might get to see another wave of being exposed. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/8/2008 4:45:08 AM | nefarious101:
Show the link that ties Senator Obama into "asking" Senator Clinton to expose Palin, just because you heard or read something does not make it the truth. At least if you have a link we can know who the source was. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/8/2008 6:20:16 AM |
That's true about governing Alaska qualifies for quite a bit of foreign policy.
That's the funniest thing I've heard today...but of course it's early yet. Try again. I really enjoy the humor.
Palin does not let the media controll her like other political canidates or politicians do.
How can the media control her when she won't show up? How's she going to face media accusations that she lies like a rug? What happens when confronted with the truth? This I've got to see. This isn't the Wasilla Weekly she's dealing with. This it the big time.
MEDIA: "Uh, Governor Palin. You said that you sold that plane on eBay for a profit. That's not true is it? In fact Senator McCain repeated that during the convention. What do you have to say about that"?
PALIN: I hunt moose. Make no mistake about it".
Jesus.. I can see it all now.
Palin has always used the media for the real purpose the media is suppose to be there for
Yes. For lies and more lies.
She has refused to let the media run her life up here and keeps her mouth shut when around them for most of the time.
Boy has she got some surprises in store. It's going to be an embarrassment to her, McCain, her party, and the country as a whole then perhaps we'll all learn the real truth.
Has anyone seen any evidence of Palin suffering from being exposed? I see a huge wave of signs that some did get exposed but not anything to do with Palin.
She will be exposed for the liar she is. Nothing to do with Palin? The airplane sale on eBay? Give me a break. | |
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