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o what you are saying, all people who graduate from Harvard Law have the skills to qualify for president of the US? He graduated a number of years ago, what has he done since? What has he run besides a currently failing campaign? What bills did he get passed in his run as a senator?
Ahead in the by 8 points is not a failing campaign, as for bills did he get passed, maybe you should do some reading rather than expecting to be spoon fed? | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 7:40:21 PM | How is his campaign 'currently failing'? At worst what I've seen of the polls have them neck and neck
Head of the Harvard Law Review is pretty impressive... A BA in journalism from some community college... not as much. Doesn't necessarily mean anything regarding ability to lead... but if I had to bet on which one had the bigger vocabulary... I know where I'd put my money. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 7:42:19 PM | Currently failing? LMAO. McCain's campaign was the one scrambling to get their last minute VP pick vetted and then came up with some bs about the media because they are doing the job the McCain campaign did not. The McCain campaign bragged about raising 1 million since Palin's speech. The "failing campaign" of Obama raised 10 million.  | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 7:45:39 PM |
I heard it on the radio, the National Enquirer, I don't know how much integrity they have
The National Enquirer is a credible source for information. As is the Weekly World News. Elvis really did give birth to Bat Boy. It's been documented. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 8:06:40 PM | "tell me how getting shot down in war and being a former POW makes you qualified..."
Raiderfan, you are right, I do consider it a negative that he was shot down. If he was a real good pilot, like Tom Cruise or someone, he would have dodged it.
What makes him qualified, is what he has done since. But, in all honesty, I am more in line with the views of Palin, and yea, there is a difference in the two. But given the choice of Obama, or McCain as president, McCain is a lot closer to my values then the other guy.
As far as a failing campaign, you can't tell me that there was not a big dissapointment for you all with the attention that was given to the Palin vice president appointment last Friday. The post convention bump that was expected never materialized. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 8:10:18 PM |
As far as a failing campaign, you can't tell me that there was not a big dissapointment for you all with the attention that was given to the Palin vice president appointment last Friday. The post convention bump that was expected never materialized.
You're kidding, right? There's been about a six point bump since the convention. The attention that Palin's been getting is a huge positive for the Dems. As HuffingtonPost has said, "she's the gift that keeps on giving." | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 8:11:50 PM | SMARTALECK ... Obama campaign raised 8mill since Palin's speech. McCains.... 1mill. Obama's failing campaign manage to knock off the mighty Clintons and keep him ahead in the polls.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/obama-raises-8-million-af_n_124023.html
WHAT CHANNEL do you Repubs watch? I'd really like to know. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 8:12:12 PM | Perjury is a felony offense in the US.
But flat out lying about yellow cake isn't?
I may be just a foolish leftie but it seems to me that getting a blowjob (and even lying about) didn't kill anyone but Bill Clinton. Now the lies about Iraq, that's a different story (one that Big John STILL SUPPORTS knowing everything he knows today. Any difference? Yes? No?
Edwards cheated on his wife. So did Guliani and a lot of other politicians.
Including John (Family Values) McCain but his cheating was even more despicable since he cheated on his wife while she was undergoing treatment for cancer. What a guy he is. Family Values...puke.
How has Obama demonstrated better thinking skills in what he has accomplished in his life so far?
For chrissakes. Obama put himself through Harvard Law School, graduated Cum Laude and was chosen for Law Review. Do you have any clue what kind of a mind it takes to accomplish that?
So what you are saying, all people who graduate from Harvard Law have the skills to qualify for president of the US?
We're not talking about "all people who graduate from Harvard". Let's stick with the question YOU asked. Sarah Palin played hockey. How the hell can you even begin to compare the two.
What bills did he get passed in his run as a senator?
Funny you should ask (but tell me what bills Sarah Palin passed?
Bills he passed http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/271/
Obama, who was sworn into office in January 2005, spent much of his time in the Senate taking a high-profile position as spokesman for Democrats’ efforts to overhaul congressional ethics standards, including his own bid to make Senate colleagues pay the full charter rate, rather than first-class airfare, for rides in corporate jets. The effort drew the ire of such senior senators as Ted Stevens of Alaska, whose state is so big that corporate planes are often the only way to get around. Senate leaders included that jet travel requirement in a lobbying practices and disclosures bill signed into law in September 2007.
But as a member of the minority party, Obama also worked across the aisle with Republicans to push several measures that became law in 2006.
Working with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, Obama won enactment of a law creating a single, searchable database of all federal contracts, grants and loans.
He also partnered with senior Indiana Republican Sen. Richard Lugar, the former chairman of the Foreign Relations panel, to sponsor legislation to strengthen international efforts to destroy conventional weapons, though it did not advance out of committee.
Separately, Obama was lead sponsor of a bill to provide relief and promote democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo, which was signed into law in December 2006.
He introduced legislation in 2005 to require federal preparations for an avian flu pandemic, but it didn't advance.
And he weighed in on another “good government” initiative during congressional debate on tougher lobbying disclosure standards, by backing the creation of an independent “Office of Public Integrity” that would investigate congressional ethics cases and receive and monitor financial disclosure reports required from members of Congress, officers and employees of Congress and lobbyists. The bid failed in 2006 due to opposition from members of the Senate Ethics Committee, who said it would politicize the panel. Another attempt to include it in the Democrats' ethics bill failed in early 2007.
There's more here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303.html
Barack Obama sits on the following committees:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629
Member, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Chairman, Subcommittee on European Affairs Member, Subcommittee on African Affairs Member, Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs Member, Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Member, Subcommittee on Children and Families Member, Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace Safety Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Member, Subcommittee on Ad Hoc Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration Member, Subcommittee on Investigations Member, Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
What committees has Palin sat on? What to do with all those moose?
Compare Obama's eloquence with McCains. Now who do you want speaking on your behalf with other world leaders? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c
Please respond to the above video honestly....if you can....if you dare. But if you don't, I'll understand. Don't feel bad. No other neocon apologists will either. The truth is a b*itch ain't it. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 8:15:55 PM |
As far as a failing campaign, you can't tell me that there was not a big dissapointment for you all with the attention that was given to the Palin vice president appointment last Friday. The post convention bump that was expected never materialized.
We love the attention, it's given Obama a bump in the polls and provided him with more money. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 8:38:20 PM | "Once again, why was he ever asked about it if adultery is not an issue in American politics?"
Because she was part of his staff. That makes it an abuse of power. CEOs get fired for it. Officers in the military get fired for it.
If you want to get blowjobs while in office, make sure the person doesn't come even close to working for you. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 8:48:21 PM | | She has been good for the Obama camp thus far, and if the adultry issues prove true, I imagine it will continue to improve. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 9:01:59 PM |
ouch. this won't help.
(CNN) -- Aides to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin improperly obtained her former brother-in-law's state police personnel files and cited information from those records to raise complaints about the officer, the head of Alaska's state police union said Thursday. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has put an aide on leave during a probe into the firing of the public safety commissioner.
"It's apparent to us that the governor or someone on her staff had direct access to his personnel file, as well as his workers' comp file, and those are protected," said John Cyr, executive director of the Alaska Public Safety Employees Association.
Palin, now the Republican candidate for vice president, is battling allegations that she sacked her public safety commissioner in July because he refused to fire Trooper Mike Wooten, her sister's ex-husband.
The governor has denied any wrongdoing. Video Watch Monegan say Palin fired him for personal reasons »
In an ethics complaint filed Wednesday, the union names the governor and three aides, one of whom cited Wooten's records in a tape-recorded call to a state police lieutenant in February. And the former commissioner, Walt Monegan, said he believes his refusal to fire Wooten led to his firing.
Monegan said no one directly demanded Wooten's dismissal, but the trooper was the subject of "constant" questions or comments "either verbally or in e-mail saying, 'Is this the kind of trooper that should be representing the troopers?' or 'This is not the kind that we want to have as a poster child.' "
"In the center of all of the controversy is Trooper Wooten's continued employment," he said. "Trooper Wooten was an irritant to her."
Palin said Monegan was sacked because of disagreements over the state budget. His firing is under investigation by the Alaska Legislature, but Palin's attorneys filed papers this week to request Alaska's Personnel Board take over the probe.
In August, Palin admitted members of her administration had contacted people in Monegan's department more than 20 times regarding Wooten since she took office in December 2006. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 9:02:32 PM | wow, just noticed this post
any tantillizing tidbits appear yet.... huh, huh, huh???
I remember when being a democrat meant more than trying to find dirt on the republicans, let me guess, "well THEY started it !"
you guys are a far cry from what Obama is supposed to stand for~ | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 9:09:59 PM | | I started a thread today titled Facts and Fiction the articles were by associated press writers, they critiqued statements made by both parties and reported the truth, some of the republican supporters on this site had it deleted, why? Because they don't like facts, watching the RNC tonight convinced me. What is that scares the republican party about facts? | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 9:10:07 PM | I'm not Obama and I've taken too many low hits from the GOP to be cutting them any slack.
you want the high road, go for it. I'm tired of these guys sloughing off wars, financial disasters, deficits, bogus contracts, you name it.
we're talking about a woman with virtually no public record so what we do know about her is important. so far we seem know some pretty squirrelly things. this is certainly one of them. particularly when the Republicans seems so ready to go around peeping into citizens daily lives to begin with. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 9:13:15 PM | | Rumors are just that. Until there is solid proof about anything I don't even bother listening to rumors. Anyone can start a rumor. I mean look at all those rumors that got started with Obama and his ties to Al-Qadia just because he had a middle-eastern name. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 9:20:03 PM | OP
I heard rumors ranging from affair to being swingers. . . Perhaps we found her excape clause after all. . oscar
we're talking about a woman with virtually no public record so what we do know about her is important oh, so, we're seeking "rumors" to know what is "important" about Palin ?
you want the high road, go for it
no sir, it just may look like I'm on the "high road" because you guys seem to be neck deep in trash... | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 9:27:37 PM | You know what, the high road got us 8 years of Dubya. . .
They CLAIM to be the party of family values, but their Candidates for the WH seem to both be adulturors, they have had numerous scandals, the worst of which was Foley the Fondler in Florida. . .
ENOUGH! Either live by your own standards, ot shut up . . . (repubs, not you) | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 9:39:49 PM | One of the main tenets of the 'neocons' (as opposed to the 'conservatives') is to pay lip service to religious values while not necessarily being a believer themselves... using religion as a tool to pull masses of voters into their camp. Not that I don't think many politicians, on both sides, make cynical claims of 'faith' when it serves their ambitions...
The spiritual godfather of today's U.S. neo-conservatives was the late philosopher, Leo Strauss, of the University of Chicago, whom Irving Kristol cited as one of the two greatest intellectual influences on his thought. Strauss was known among his students and devotees for advocating using religion to "control the masses," though the "true wise men," (like Strauss, presumably) know that religion is a "deception of the masses", but that deception must be kept secret, to maintain control, Strauss privately admitted to his inner circle. That's from Shadia B. Drury's book, 'Leo Strauss and the American Right'. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 9:50:20 PM |
Unfortunately, Americans will not be fooled by these actions and most Americans don't care about sexual innuendo, rumors, and gossipy dirt that the parties dig up on one another. No one cares. You may want to tell that to the Republicans because I could have sworn that they considered those things worthy of seeking impeachment over. I believe it was over lies and perjury ABOUT these things that led in the direction of impeachment, but maybe lies and perjury are acceptable from a Democratic president - ditto for the abuse of power regarding a female intern, from a party which raises female empowerment over almost everything else. The correct term is hypocrisy, and it's rampant in the practice of politics, from both sides sadly. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 10:01:05 PM | I think that people cut Clinton a lot of slack because, to them, there is such a thing as a 'white lie'... a lie that either protects someone else or covers up a fact of no real importance. He did lie, and it is against the law... but after watching the extensive/expensive witch hunt the 'conservatives' conducted... desperately looking for anything they could find on the guy... after pushing rumours of fraud and bribery and murder... and the worst they could find was a blowjob??!! I think most people figured that the crime of his lie was balanced by the utterly craven conduct of his persecutors... All in all it was bad/dishonest behavior on both sides. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 10:25:33 PM | neoconservatist, from wiki:
The term neoconservative was originally used as a criticism against liberals who had "moved to the right".[3][4] Michael Harrington, a democratic socialist, coined the usage of neoconservative in a 1973 Dissent magazine article concerning welfare policy.[5] According to E. J. Dionne, the nascent neoconservatives were driven by "the notion that liberalism" had failed and "no longer knew what it was talking about."[1]...In the early 1970s, democratic socialist Michael Harrington used the term in its modern meaning. He characterized neoconservatives as former leftists from Michael Lind, a self described (former) neocon:
In being a kind of secretive elitist approach, Straussianism does resemble Marxism. These ex-Marxists, or in some cases ex-liberal Straussians, could see themselves as a kind of Leninist group, you know, who have this covert vision which they want to use to effect change in history, while concealing parts of it from people incapable of understanding it. So, you not only are incorrect about neocons and what they are, you quote a Marxist on religion while citing neocons as using religion as a 'tool'. Not much of an argument, is it, given that it springs from an incorrect premise and uses marxist ideology. For those with a sense of humour,
Irving Kristol remarked that a neoconservative is a "liberal mugged by reality," one who became more conservative after seeing the results of liberal policies. And for those with a sense of irony,
Kristol also claims three distinctive aspects of neoconservatism from previous forms of conservatism: a forward-looking approach drawn from their liberal heritage, rather than the reactionary and dour approach of previous conservatives; a meliorative outlook, proposing alternate reforms rather than simply attacking social liberal reforms; taking philosophical or ideological ideas very seriously.[32] Those don't sound like particularly bad ideals to aspire to.... I don't believe that Palin is the issue so much as her opponents seeking to discredit her with whatever they can dig up - i.e. politics as usual. | |
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| Palin Bombshell about to be exposed? Posted: 9/4/2008 10:33:48 PM |
I am more in line with the views of Palin
Palin is Bush with lipstick. A complete ideologue. You don't see the similarities? Or maybe you do. | |
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