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 jeandvorak

Joined: 9/3/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 5:37:00 AM

Are you trying to come off as a badazzz boy? It's not working for you. Your sounding like an idiot.


I had to read this like 4 times before getting back to my senses. Then I read your posting history and all came clear.

First, insulting like this is uncalled for. Second, YOU are the one looking bad for treating people like this for no reason. Oh, is the poor sweetjemgirl a little brat? of course you are, you've been one since you were probably 2.

Fact is, you're the kind of woman who hates to admit certain things and your bitter nature only tells you to come here and embarrass yourself in such a magnificent fashion.

Bite me

Anyway, what you pointed out it's evidence that you didn't understand one thing or two from my post. Shall I re-phrase it for you? well, maybe later. Can't give you more of my time now.

Oh, and as far as me still in this site, did you think I'm like most men here who come and whine for lack of women? my dating life is just fine. I live in South Florida so that gives you an idea

I'll see ya later ma'am
 HDynasty81

Joined: 3/10/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 5:42:24 AM
Most times the situation is that the woman is so attractive, the guy usually believes she's got to have a man or boyfriend or whatever. I'd be the first to admit that I'm of this belief.
 jeandvorak

Joined: 9/3/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 1:40:11 PM
My little sweetheart. What would I do without you? Responses like yours are only to be found in a George Carlin script. I absolutely love them.

Now, this morning I couldn't reply to your love letter because I was heading to a photoshoot but I just got back so, allow me


OK jeand.. I was agreeing to you up to a point. Umm WRONG. You choose each other!


Didn't say otherwise. I said that men need to control the situation. Letting her know that one is choosing her had an implied subtlely you didn't grasp. Not surprised though. But the fact remains, one just don't go there and say "hey! listen, I'm choosing you aiight?" . It's about body language, looks, etc that you can send this message. You haven't dated in a long time, have you?


What, you think your going to just point at who you want, go up and club her on the head and drag her to the cave??


Huh? is this some kind of self projection on an actual experience? I'll rename myself to Bubba and will have a baseball bat handy in my trunk. Ya know, for those really stubborn.


It's about MUTUAL attraction. If she isn't attracted then you aren't doing anything - including "BEDDING".


Of course it is. Who said it wasn't like this? The main point of the thread is men avoiding attractive women, not attraction per se. That said, I was simply providing information on what works for me when it comes to, again, approaching women. Rejection is another discussion. Why would I consider rejection as an option in the first place? nah, that would make me a sweet nice guy. And I'm not.


Are you trying to come off as a badazzz boy? It's not working for you. Your sounding like an idiot. Are you one of the David Dewhatever the heck followers?


As previously said, I don't recall insulting you in any way. Wait, perhaps did I insult your stance of a strong woman that tries to control everything? how does it feel to try and control this thread and... fail? I don't even recall ever addressing any message to you directly. Then why would you choose to embarrass yourself like this? Did I hit you in the pride so hard that you could only come up with insults? well, that's... sad. I saw a guy's account removed recently due to this kind of behavior. I wonder if they have checked on this thread. Hmmm badazz bad boy? using "z" instead of "s" like a 9th grader? Telling.


If it's working so well then why are you still on here??


<<< See my profile date? I've been here for a week. LMAO. This website is great to meet people and for networking. I'm sorry for those who use the site as their *only* dating option.


The only woman that is going to go for that CONTROL and DOMINATE crap is the one's who have no selfesteem or have some fetish with that stuff. If that's your type enjoy.


Another self porjection? Every woman I've met have wanted me to control and dominate all aspects of the relationship I've had with them. Professional, smart and beautiful girls. Not even close to what you describe. The ladies you're describing are the ones who end up hooking up with the sweet nice guys. Hey, they also have a heart.


Real women want real men. Men that are niether cavemen wannabe' OR doormats!! There is a balance between the NG/BB extreme's and when you figure out what that is you will find a good woman.


Ya know, when I read your post I was dazed and confused. Then I checked your posting history. Almost in every single message you come across as a bitter woman. In this particular aspect, the "real men", you've mentioned it quite a few times. Is it a pattern of yours to validate here who's a real man and who's not? Most importantly, are you one of these "real women" you talk about? What makes you real? Arguing with a 30 something on the Internet? As long as you don't come up with a Matrix-like explanation of "The Real" I'm almost open for anything.

So listen, real woman, here's the deal. It takes a smarter woman to "insult" me. Your empty rethoric is nothing but a plethora of sad self perceptions. The way you word your messages makes me feel as if your blood was boiling hot. As tragic as that is, it's also comical. How can let yourself go like this in a forum? Insulting people you don't know because you felt like it?

I'm a confident man that knows I can go and approach, date, bed and marry any woman out there. If YOU don't feel comfortable about it, I can buy you a cookie. Actually, I can give you a better prize. For every insult I see coming out of your fingers, I'll give an ice cream. Banana split, perhaps?

Now, it's Saturday night. I have two cars. A sedan and a sports car. I'm going to a classy club. So what car do you think I should be driving to meet someone to like me?
 heh112072

Joined: 8/20/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 2:12:55 PM
Just some advice for all you guys out there - I would never give a guy like this^^^^^ the time of day! But I know that most of you guys out there have more sense than to listen to the likes of jeandvorak

Most women, including myself, like sincere and respectful men - not control freaks
 naumatt02

Joined: 6/17/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 2:30:08 PM
I dont exactly avoid attractive women, but I know I am intimidated by some. I think almost all guys just have an idea how good looking they are and which women are "too hot" for them to approach. and maybe some guys have dated the really attractive women and then realized they are too much maintenance, then they decide dating an "above-average" looking woman is better because they have a more easy-going personality. That's something to think about....
 jeandvorak

Joined: 9/3/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 2:46:23 PM
heh112072

The only control freaks I've met so far have been women. They want to control they way we talk, the way we dress, the way we cut our hair, they way we drive, they way we eat, the way we spend money, etc. But that's not the "control" I'm talking about.

I'm talking about the decision-making process that happens when a guy meets a woman. Instead of asking "would you like to do this?" I've found to be more effective to suggest, not order, said action. By skipping the questions and giving for granted an answer, a guy shows himself a confident person. It's something seen in marketing every day. Want an example? If someone is running a poll for smokers, they would ask "what kind of brand of cigarettes do you smoke?" If I smoke, I'll glady say "Marlboro". By answering, I'm giving two answers in reality. If I don't, I simply say "I don't smoke". It's more subtle to suggest the person the answer than a harsh "Do you smoke?". Got my point?

By doing this, a guy "controls" the way things happen, letting the woman know she still has the choice to say "no". In a sense, it's part of the courtship. A woman doesn't like an undecisive man who needs to ask permission for every little thing. Hence, a man without initiative. See where I'm going?

I'd be impressed if you find this to be nonsense.

The way my phrase "control the situation" it's being perceived is totally biased.

But hey, that's your choice.

You too have a nice day :)
 SueisWho

Joined: 1/9/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 3:03:50 PM
Jeandvorak, you're a sweetie pie....

I don't understand why it matters to people whether or not they don't mesh with someone???? Beautiful...ugly....what's that mean anyways? If you "click" with someone, you "click" with that person regardless of looks, status, etc.

It's what's inside that counts the most....as well as the clicking between two people....that's why I turn down some men...I just don't click with them....and men have turned me down because they probably felt they didn't click with me.

It's called the Clicking Effect....(my own term)
 heh112072

Joined: 8/20/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 3:08:50 PM
Jeandvorak,
Being decisive and confident is fine, so I agree with you there. However, making comments like "I can bed any woman I want" comes across as crass, arrogant, and delusional. A little confidence goes a long way, but arrogance is not very charming at all. I'm sorry if I seem harsh - I'm just trying to give some constructive criticism.
 GeorgeJohnson

Joined: 6/24/2007
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Posted: 9/13/2008 3:13:54 PM
I do not avoid women, but I do deny them my essence.

 devilsa

Joined: 4/23/2006
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Posted: 9/13/2008 8:10:08 PM
I am attracted to attractive women, inside and out. I cannot conceive a woman being TOO beautiful under any circumstances. Any such women reading this, I keenly await your message! LOL
 Sweeet Melissa

Joined: 8/30/2008
Msg: 236
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Posted: 9/13/2008 8:50:49 PM
OP Long Gone says
I definitely see a pattern of men avoiding relationships with women who (by most standards) are very attractive.

Sweeet Melissa says. Huh?
Damn I must be ugly because men do not seem to be avoiding me.
Maybe it is my hair.
 FixedHeart

Joined: 2/20/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 8:54:36 PM


Maybe it is my hair.


Gotta be your shorts.
 sweetjemgirl

Joined: 4/11/2008
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Posted: 9/14/2008 1:09:28 AM

Any men can have any woman he wants. Successful dating means you're going out with the woman YOU want, not the woman that LET you go out with her.

Always be the selector, not the selectee. Approach a woman and let her know you're choosing her, not the other way around. Use your confidence and add great sense of humor. Give her something different. Something that will make her think "damn, this is not one of those dumb pussies I've met so far". Be in CONTROL and dominate. By doing this, you ATTRACT a woman instead of chasing her. If you see yourself chasing her, forget about it and move on to the next girl.

It's very simple. Meeting, dating, bedding and marrying women is surprisingly easy with the right attitude. But most men **** things up. Oh well, that's how life is.



Please do reread this post. Please notice the arrogance, the terms of control and dominance. And all other statements that contradict what jeandvork is saying now.

The fact that you love George Carlin says sooooooo much. Thanks for sharing.

To respond to all your silly remarks is a waste of time. That you come off so arrogant and crass says it wouldn't sink in. But hey, you're doing such a hot job of getting all those women so go for it.

It sounds very much like your copying and pasting out of some book. Just a thought!!!???

Those women who want you to control and dominate everything? Ehhh ok, if you say so.

Pssst... By the way, it's really easy to read through your posts and find the contradictions. You can backpedal pretty fast when certain things are pointed out.

I know some very "real men" and they definitely don't go around bragging about their women, or being able to control and dominate, the cars they have ect. They have a sense of humour and can banter with intelligence and consistency.

As for my dating, well it's pretty great, enough that I don't need to troll clubs looking for others who are under the influence of alcohol so to lower their judgement when I try to hit on them!!!



Just some advice for all you guys out there - I would never give a guy like this^^^^^ the time of day! But I know that most of you guys out there have more sense than to listen to the likes of jeandvorak

Most women, including myself, like sincere and respectful men - not control freaks
Whats to apologize for, you spoke the truth...
 NixE36

Joined: 8/11/2008
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Posted: 9/14/2008 6:04:19 PM
I think every woman is beautiful, men just like different things in or of a w oman and sadly,.....{hesitant giggle} just like a woman,..a man can change is mind. I'm just now starting to like how I look because growing up I heard lots of negative words that made me feel ugly. I think when a man makes a woman feel beautiful .... SHE IS BEAUTIFUL because she feels its...:) I do however look at the really beautiful women out there and I wish I could borrow the looks for a day.. Not for attention but, for the confidence that I did not have before and that I am just attaining. I just love feeling unjudged and accepted....and blissful about everything and anything else that air touches. I think a man show muster up his courage and at the least say Hi to that "attractive woman" because not all men think she is and she may not feel that she is. Take a chance.

Positive attitude makes people BEAUTIFUL. Great thread, interesting pov's, and wicked opinions..... I've learned a lot so far.. much gratitude.

xoxo
 OneLifeTwoLive

Joined: 5/26/2008
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Posted: 9/14/2008 6:18:14 PM

Most women, including myself, like sincere and respectful men - not control freaks

@heh112072; I don't know what's wrong with the rest ot these dudes, but sincerely and respectfully, you can have full control of me anytime you want. I'll even purchase the doggy leash, and handcuffs.
 druminky

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Posted: 9/14/2008 6:31:04 PM
GeorgeJohnson,

That's from "Dr. Strangelove," right? The crazy colonel?
 gypsy_rose85

Joined: 6/23/2008
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Posted: 9/14/2008 6:56:13 PM
Who is to say the women these men are going for are not beautiful? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You might be ugly as sin to them. My brother for instance NEVER dated a thin or even avrage woman He LUURRVVEESS huge women! my sister inlaw is about a size 26 or 28 with G size breasts. He finds that to be beautiful. Most men would not! (BTW my brother is a handsome 6 foot 200 pound man who is well built so it is not only "ugly" guys that love BBW) to you a BBW is probibly unatractive and to MANY men (not all) it is as well. Does that mean they are? No it does not because there are people out there who think they are to die for. Just because you think they are unatractive does not mean that these men think they are.
 gypsy_rose85

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Posted: 9/14/2008 7:10:36 PM

I appreciate your insights on my question. However, I'm a little confused as to what you and the other men who are using the term think makes a woman look like she is "high maintenance". Are you refering to a woman who stays in great shape, dresses well and is overall noticably well-groomed? I think it's natural for a woman to want to always look her best--that's a healthy sign of self-confidence!


just because a woman is not well groomed does not mean that she is not condifant. I am a tank top/jeans, no make-up kind of gall. I help my familey log, i do alot of hiking, and -gasp- i am a big girl! I am plenty confidant in my looks. I do not think i am ugly. I am happy with who I am. What is the point in spending a crap load of money to be "well dressed" when jeans and tank tops suit my life style? I am a country girl. I don't wear make up unless it is a special occasion because i will sweat it all off when i am lugging wood or chasing my son on his four wheeler while he tries to drive it into the woodline. I do not need to look like a million dollars to have confidance. I don't need to spend Extra money on things that make me look "better" to use on everyday things when that money could be going to something much better. Like a pack of dipers, or a hungry person on the side of the street. Belive it or not but some people have come to relize you don't have to dress perfict, or wear makeup to attract a man.
 GeorgeJohnson

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Posted: 9/14/2008 7:19:00 PM

That's from "Dr. Strangelove," right? The crazy colonel?


Yeah I just saw it again recently. That scene is so funny and disturbing at the same time.
 BengalBlue

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Posted: 9/14/2008 10:53:10 PM
Normally, I would not mind.
However, once I see some details like she seems high maintenance...
 bk0x45

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Posted: 9/15/2008 12:34:57 AM

Damn I must be ugly because men do not seem to be avoiding me.


Uh... how about those guys in your building? The ones you posted about after being on crutches? Forget them already?

I'm also pretty sure there are some guys who'd find you attractive. As for the hair... well, the style's nice.
 sixa

Joined: 11/24/2007
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Posted: 9/15/2008 1:16:04 AM

Posted By: BaldyisBeautiful on 9/5/2008 610 PM
Subject: Men who avoid attractive women??
Message: For me personally, no I don't avoid them unless they look like they are going to be high maintenance


Me = +1

For sure. I steer clear of anything that looks remotely high maintenance. I'd rather the girl next door who's easy going before I ever go back to a stunner that costs me more energy then nuclear fusion.
 Cali-Nick

Joined: 8/3/2008
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Posted: 9/15/2008 1:24:45 AM
What was the question? Oh why is the guy above me so lame?
Because he wants to sound like that's _just how good he is_ he don't need no attractive girlz... and because hes doing that thing where you tuck your arms under your biceps to make them look bigger.
 sixa

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Posted: 9/15/2008 1:31:57 AM
Cali-Nick, do you have some kind of self esteem issue?

You seem to read alot between the lines, and an unprovoked insult is a bit unwarranted. I guess that's typical for Americans right? Unprovoked invas... I mean insult.

Loser, go back to your Honda Civic and get your ass outta here.. I'm pretty sure there is a football jock waiting for you to do his math homework.
 Sweeet Melissa

Joined: 8/30/2008
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Posted: 9/15/2008 4:59:27 AM
bk0069
Uh... how about those guys in your building? The ones you posted about after being on crutches? Forget them already?

And what did I say in that post? They are very friendly now and they are not avoiding me at all. Even though I am no longer on my crutch. They never avoided me before. They just never talked to me as I zoomed by.
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