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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 12:42:14 PM | Liposuction~$15,000
Personal Trainer~$60,000 a year
Nutritionist/Personal chef~$75,000 a year
Special foods for the low-fat weight maintenance~$70,000 a year
Finding out she dumped your ass for someone who didn't put these expectations upon her~
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 12:45:50 PM | Never ceases to amaze me the mindless drivel that some people come up with .
Ya know looking through the forums I noticed foolishness like this is started "usually " by people who dont have a picture on their profile. Has any one else noticed this ? | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 12:47:15 PM | Now that's one of the most warped ideas I have ever heard. There are just too many variables in life that could affect someone's physique.
And isn't loving the whole person, flaws and all, what it should be about? | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 12:48:12 PM |
Liposuction~$15,000
Personal Trainer~$60,000 a year
Nutritionist/Personal chef~$75,000 a year
Special foods for the low-fat weight maintenance~$70,000 a year
75% of all statistics are made up. This just shows how accurate that number is.
Though I did find your comment funny. =) | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 12:48:47 PM | The responses here are predictable. This is the age of no responsibility!
My ex-wife was 5'2" and 113 lb. when we got married but by the 4th year had blossomed to 180 lb.+. In my mind, she was not the woman I married. I married a slim woman and this woman in my bed was not slim by any stretch of the imagination. I guess I should say I am averse to fat and do not find it attractive. I am very conscious of my weight and keep it in line.
I believe we have a responsibility to our partners to maintain ourselves and to do what we have to do to remain as attractive as possible. To let the weight build up to obscene levels is not respectful or responsible to the partner.
That being said, my last relationship started when she was about 40 lbs. over her ideal weight. That was on the borderline of acceptable but to her credit, she lost over 30 pounds. Just in case you're wondering, no I did not harrass her or even mention it. She initiated it and did it all on her own to her credit.
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 12:50:41 PM | | And what would you be willing to offer OP?..the same conditions?...men get fat,bald and homelier as they age too you know..I'd be interested to know who would screw up first..most likely you..I find it difficult to believe that someone who writes in his profile that he feeds the needy or whatever it says,would write something so dumb.. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 12:52:35 PM |
Would it be fair to include in a prenuptial that your spouse has to maintain physical health and physique?
I guess both parties could keep a arrangement going, sure - it'd have to be fair tho.
I've seen many married women that "let themselves go" right after marriage. It is unreasonable to request in a prenuptial that your wife stays within a certain weight range, and if not, it is grounds for divorce without having to give her half of everything?
You make that sound like MEN don't let themselves go....au contraire. If she's staying in shape and eating right, he better not be on the couch with beer and doritos after a steak dinner with his hand in his pants and his feet up.
I've heard that some people do this. Do their marriage last longer generally? Somehow I think it would facilitate a longer more fulfilling marriage .
It would if both partners desired good health and kept good fitness habits and motivated each other, sure. | |
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Posted: 9/6/2008 1:28:24 PM | Oh olyman38 lighten up..........if you promise to behave I promise to put in my next prenup to do a thread search......................
If you think a thread is redundant.........enter at your own risk. Better yet dont enter at all.
PEACE
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 1:34:30 PM | O.K. Gapeman,
You are still young and god bless your parents for keeping you in good health...........but if you should ever loose your physique because of your own negligence or lack of understanding for good nutrition.............I would hope they wouldn't give you the time of day either.
Create your own demise and destiny!!!!!!!!
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 2:06:33 PM | It seems to me like to claim the right for divorce, if married, for 'your' reasons in something that is already granted.
One of the reasons because pre-nup are thrown in courts is because its unreasonable clauses and unrealistic expectations: you can't control what can't be controlled.
Frivolous provisions as who takes the garbage out or who walks the dog is not a precept to keep harmony in case of disagrement but, undermining the acceptance that life can't be planned as a rigid calendar without the possibility to ackowledge of causes beyond control.
To expect from someone not to be become fat is to deny biology. Even in the event of personal choice as unhealthy habit and against other's wishes, it falls under the gounds of the free will.
To expect from somene to be always emotionally stable, is -by the claim itself- irrational, not to say insane.
If anything, doesn't work out even as a common sense or implicit expectation, the no fault divorce comes to play by its definition and concept.
"This site never ceases to amaze me"
I disagree: it's the people. The site is fun.
Disclaimer note: Exception applies. I never get fat, ugly, bold, old and/or stupid.
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 2:18:42 PM | | Most of the women I know are the ones trying to maintain a healthy lifestyle and eat sensibly, get some exercise in, etc. I see a lot of couples my age where both are overweight, not just the wife. And I agree that health can turn on a dime at any age. With most serious health problems, exercise is the first thing to go, and regular exercise is often a requirement for maintaining a healthy weight. So yeah....a prenup along these lines is pretty silly. If the weight is that important, the man should just date. | |
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Posted: 9/6/2008 2:22:33 PM |
The responses here are predictable. This is the age of no responsibility!
Agreed, sir.
People, things are not as black and white as you so put it! We all like to think when we are in love we will ignore all the other persons "flaws", but that is easier said than done.
If looks weren't that big of a deal, people wouldn't have their own personal dating archetypes that they rigidly stick to. If you read any "nice guy/gal" post about how dating is all about looks, the same people in here would be snapping back with the "I don't want to settle" platitudes. I have a hard time believing that people turning off this "non-settling" compulsion just because they got married.
You all can cringe all you want, but at the end of the day, I think individuals like op are being actually being realistic about the implications brought upon by the "not settling" mindset. Naturally, this is taken to the extreme with it being a clause in a pre-nup, or is it?
Be well,
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 2:31:15 PM | "Seriously though, when a woman gets into an accident and becomes disfigured, most men leave the marriage. Women on the other hand stay around and help their husband and remain with him even if he's disfigured and crippled. Men just don't. That's just the horrific reality of it. So it's something we all need to consider."
I call BULLSH!T!!! I have firsthand men who stay and help take care of their wives. I currently have one resident who, due to a freak accident in her home, is now a quadriplegic and dependent on a ventilator to breathe. Her husband is in every single day, ALL day. They can't afford the equipment to keep her home full-time or he'd have her there. The key to that? He LOVES her, yes, for better or for worse, on sickness and in health.
OP I have never heard anyone so selfish and shallow before. Do the world a favor, never marry and never breed! | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 3:03:28 PM | | So what you are saying is that things like looks & wt gain is tantamount to you...? If she becomes ill or gains too much wt with pregnancy it is OVER? Who would want to marry such a shallow man anyway???? I must say that a prenup like that shows a persons real values... | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 3:07:15 PM |
"Seriously though, when a woman gets into an accident and becomes disfigured, most men leave the marriage. Women on the other hand stay around and help their husband and remain with him even if he's disfigured and crippled. Men just don't. That's just the horrific reality of it. So it's something we all need to consider."
Well God Bless.........just looking to relay one of my experiences with a man I dated for a short time........and thank the lord it was only for a short time.
He married a woman at age 20, he was 23 and they had 4 children by him. He worked outside of the home and had very little to do with the home, his wife or children. She worked within the home to maintain it, raise children, cook meals and clean and manage the meager income he was able to provide, of which he wasn't even able to pay for healthcare for his family. He and the children got used to her providing services to them which were taken for granted big time, and he nor the children ever thought to give her a hand with anything. Eight years into the marriage, she was diagnosed with cancer and everyone thought it was a big joke and continued to expect her to carry the load, like she had always done.
One day she packed a bag with a few personal essentials and sought help in a cancer clinic, never letting her husband or family know where she was. They thought she had dropped off the edge of the planet, but she had met a very kind soul that helped her. She recovered, but never contacted her family again. She got on her feet again, worked hard at a paying job, made some wise investments and became quite wealthy and well known to the community. One of her sons contacted her after many years, but she soon learned that he was only interested in her wealth and quite bluntly told him and his father to get lost and get some backbone and moral fibre in their lives. She said to them, you left me for dead and didn't help when I needed you and that is how I want to remain in your lives.
She is a writer and a painter now and lives well in a part of Canada. She is a dear friend of mine and her secrets are safe with me.
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 3:07:34 PM | | that goes both ways. Men let themselves "go" also. They experience losses, like women. They loose their jobs, stamina and performance, etc. There is no way I'd marry someone who has your attitude. I let myself "go" for a few years during the marriage because I was burned out and couldn't really take care of myself. Then when we split, I focused on myself and look better than I've looked in 15 years. So, if your ex-wives have let themselves "go" perhaps it's because they're exhausted from being married to you. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 3:09:36 PM | GapeMan Does your weight affect your sex life?! Posted: 9/5/2008 12  19 AM Yeah it does. One year I ate junk food like crazy, was up to about 200 pounds. I wanted to see what I would look like and how my body would perform as a larger guy. I could hardly breathe, had no stamina. I showered a lot less during that period as well, so having sex was distasteful to my partners. I'd have d ick cheese crust in and around my c0ck and my choda (the area between the ballsack and the anus). I couldn't sleep on my stomach because my gut would push my intestines in and it was very uncomfortable. I looked in the mirror daily and was horrified and scared by what I saw.
Ummmm yeah, you meant husband right? | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/6/2008 3:17:07 PM | You can put pretty much anything into an agreement that you want... people do any manner of silly things including how frequent the sex, division of housework and frequency of going out/playing golf etc.
However you ought to consider a few things...
The cost of drawing up the pre-nup just went up... the more you step away from "the norm", the more it costs to "frame" ot in an actionable legal manner that Both will agree with.
How are you going to take action on it? Presuming that she'll still be willing to marry you? She puts on x amount of pounds and you'll divorce her? Don't need a pre nup for that. She'll get less in the settlement? How much less? Would it stand up in court?
Seems like a bad idea all around with no real up side. I think you ought to quit trying to control someone else's life by seeking unactionable guarantees... and focus on someone who shares your values. | |
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Posted: 9/6/2008 3:21:33 PM |  yeah well maybe sometimes a person can get a prenup because they dont trust the person at the time an feel that they are a lyer ,so in order to keep them in line they make them work for their money. if they think it will help motivate them into being a better person. Me i think that if u get to know the person an wait it out its all good. If they are giving me more advice on healthy choices an im the one with the money and i want someone who is healthy and take care of their body as well as other things that makes a person who they really are, then i wont have a prenup because by their actions they are showing me that they are real.  I mean come on if they are eating right an do a little exercise here an there its fine. Who says u have to kill your self to stay fit. U can eat wat u want that is healthy as much as u want. Why get with someone u have to fix when u can get someone who likes the same things u like. Hello thats why u suppose to get to know the person as long as it takes for both of u to know that they are the one. Meaning a prenup wouldnt exist if the person u want to spend yo life with is the one u wouldnt care if she or he gets some of the money. Hey u got to share sometimes why not give it to someone who deserves it or appreciates it. Stop being selfish and unfair to yo other half.wink:   especially if u have kids together or not. | |
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