| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 3:04:10 PM | I'd sign it.
Provided you pay for all spa treatments, fitness and country club memberships, cosmetic surgery involved in the maintenance, and sign a clause on not losing head hair or muscle mass, not acquiring nasty habits, extra pounds, disease etc. And of course whichever one cheats, gets to leave with nothing.
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 3:06:37 PM | | ROFL,,,,,,,,,,,Brooker, many relationships are based on flimsy, shallow grounds, including marraige..........so why not a pre-nup based similarly. Yep, you would indeed advocate a one-sided pre-nup. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 3:10:40 PM | If you're wealthy and looking for a trophy wife, then I suppose it is reasonable that when the wife gains some weight, you can trade her in for a new one without giving her all your money. And she'll be hoping that you'll die before her so she can move on and enjoy your wealth.
No, it would not make a marriage stronger and last longer. In fact, I think it would weaken it if that is the main consideration. I'd never sign something like that and would be on my way out the door. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 3:25:01 PM | | GAPMAN you are a very sad man, It's men like you who have caused us "a few exta pounds" women to struggle with many self esteem issues, shame on you for such a ridculous and shallow forum I actually think you and my ex husband must be of the same mind set. Let me tell you a story about weight and hurt feelings. When I was young and wore a size 7 (Now I am a 14 ) my ex husband of whom I have been divorced from for 20 years thought I was attractive before I had a child. after having a child for him and gaining weight I became no longer worthy of his affection or love. That kind of rejection is devastating and I pray I may never meet a man like you.............good luck with your Pre nup and I feel sorry for your girlfriend of wife if she happens to gain "a few extra pounds" This forum stirred up some very unhappy memories for me even after all of these years it still hurts to be considered unworthy of someones love because they thought you were no longer good enough for them | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 3:43:41 PM | | Lets see your picture and we can decide if this should qualify for you...lmfao Good lord. I am thinking this guy may have more issues than National Geographic, and can not even show a pic of himeslf. Things what make you say MMmmmmmmm....I am learning that the people on here who some lame ass excuse as to why they can not show themselves, have the most dramatic threads or posts. NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am thnking maybe the OP has let himself go...or will have some fabulous excuse as to why he has no pic...friends computer, work for the FBI, blah blah blah..... | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 3:56:26 PM | | Ever notice the number of women who let themselves go during a marriage, whatever the excuse. They claim they can't lose the weight no matter how they try. It's funny how fast they get into shape when they are single again. I think the amount of weight you put on inside a relationship is a direct measure of the contempt you hold for your partner's happiness and physical needs. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 3:56:42 PM | I think this is a GREAT idea. At least the woman would find out before marrying you what a vain, shallow person you really are and run for the hills.
Of course, this is assuming that the OP, his profile, and all the other tasteless, vile comments and posts penned by him are even real. Maybe it's just my hope that nobody that disgusting actually exists that makes me say that, but it seems as if the OP enjoys being the spark that sets people off instead of sparking actual intelligent conversation. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 3:57:52 PM | Ha! Ill tell you this: consenting adults can contract to anything, legal or not, enforceable or not. I imagine as a matter of public policy your clause in this prenuptial is tantamount to unenforceable just as would be a contract with illegal performance required.
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 4:23:34 PM | To go against the grain here....
Hey, if you can find a way to have babies without stretchmarks, breastfeed without loosing a little firmness, age without gravity's action, eliminate breast cancer, guarantee no disfiguring accidents, let us all in on that, OK?
Who said anything about stretch marks, diseases, or accidents? Breastfeed if you want but gravity's is no different for someone 30, 40, or 50 years of age. It all comes down to muscle mass and that roll you are or are not carrying. It it is a question of priorities in life, that extra piece of chocolate cake, or a run around the block.
I had a hairdresser that once told me she works out in part because love is one thing but her husband fell in love with a person with a body worth looking at. She had three kids and looked fine the last time I saw her. Mind you he never let himself go either.
Now if the OP wants to put a clause like that in a prenup then he better pick someone who is inclined to look after herself otherwise he is just stacking the deck and only wants his beloved for a few years and wants to trade her in with no depreciation. He will also have to realize that he is going to have to do his part otherwise the lawyers will argue his actions were in bad faith.
He will have to show he watched the kids regularly, helped with the shopping, cleaning, gave moral support so that his wife could spend the time necessary to fulfill her contractual obligations. And if he does not there may be grounds for her to take him to the cleaners, never mind this 50/50 BS.
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 4:58:44 PM | I still think it's fair if and only if a man is held to the same standard...and in most cases, we know that ain't gonna happen, so not to worry ladies. I mean, what man is going to actually subject himself to the same standard he wants you to follow, right?
So you either don't have to deal with this at all, or you get a permanent handsome hardbody with no physical flaws for a husband with legal recourse if he slips up. I say it's a win win. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 5:05:14 PM |  Ohhh my goodness!!! Where is your sense of humor people!!! YES!!! HELL YES!!! Put the clause in the prenup! I have a few of my own I want to add: If he develops ED, if he becomes bald (actually I don't really care about this one), if he gets fat (hmm, I don't really care about that one either) if he gets boring, if he gets laid off from a job and isn't contributing his 50% for more than 6 months, if he fails to keep nose and ear hair trimmed, LOL! I think this could be fun!
Hey... I heard that Jackie O had in the prenuptial with Aristotle exactly how many times per year she had to have sex with him, how many public appearances a year she had to make with him...and other stuff.
I'd say that anything 2 people AGREE on is "reasonable". If one doesn't agree, then don't sign the contract and don't get married....how much more reasonable does it get? | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 5:16:41 PM |
Would it be fair to include in a prenuptial that your spouse has to maintain physical health and physique?
I've seen many married women that "let themselves go" right after marriage. It is unreasonable to request in a prenuptial that your wife stays within a certain weight range, and if not, it is grounds for divorce without having to give her half of everything?
I've heard that some people do this. Do their marriage last longer generally? Somehow I think it would facilitate a longer more fulfilling marriage .
As many men let themselves go as women so I would insist that you would also sign a prenup.. that you will stay in shape.
Also, I would include in your prenup that you be able to maintain an errection and bring me to climax every time we had sex and I would have you agree to have sex with me a minimum of 5times a week and if you failed to do that it would be grounds for divorce and remember this agreement is for life time not just first 10 years.
Also, you must maintain your original teeth, and if you lose your hair you must have a hair transplant.
Oh yeah and while I am in labor giving birth to your children you must allow me to hold onto your private parts and also allow me to pull your bottom hip up over your head.. just so you understand that probably one of the reasons why women's bodies get out of shape is first of all giving birth to your children.. it messes our bodies' hormones up.. many times we can't ever get them back normal.. not to speak of what it does to the rest of our body.
Oh and you can never had bad breath or fart in our presence.. or scratch yourself.. cuz that would be grounds for divorce..
And if you leave me for a younger woman you must give everything to me .. plus %75 of your income.. lets see how much she loves you then!!! huh?
I haven't read the posts but I am sure many ladies have alreayd raked you over the coals... I even forgot to see how old you were but based on your OP I think you are probably pretty young which would explain your lack of knowledge in that area. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 5:17:23 PM |
I've seen many married women that "let themselves go" right after marriage.
It's my understanding that a perhaps small portion of the female population simply cannot regain the body they had pre-baby no matter what they do or how hard they work... so if you're vain enough that your woman's gotta be JUST SO... then don't knock her up.
Or you know... stop being a vain whiner guy.
You could offer to sign something promising that your noodle will never go soft on her to compensate...
Your call. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 5:39:24 PM | What are you serious ??? Does it go both ways ??? I think you should stay single or buy your self a life size babie doll , you marry her for her there are more to a person then size looks . if you want her to stay in shape go to the gym together  | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 5:45:44 PM | Don't get married. As people age, their bodies change. There are thyroid conditions that can make you gain a lot of weight and it isn't your fault.
I'm not a fan of prenups of any kind...except for one. Who is the actress who had a prenup that stated if her husband ever cheated he owed her a million dollars? That one is worth signing.
The only pre-nup worth signing is this one. ^^^ | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 5:47:10 PM | Draw it up, and be sure to include "in the event of disfiguring disease, accident or foul play-related injury which prevents further fitness-maintaining exercise and good coordination, the unharmed spouse is entitled to $_,_ as compensation for insult to and loss of personal satisfaction .. "
Honestly. GROW UP. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 6:01:32 PM | After I stopped laughing....
Sure, have her sign, but don't be surprised if she wants you to sign something similar. She might add, "no repulsive behavior, e.g. passing gas, belching, insisting on intimacy on his schedule only, etc."
As other posters have written, shallow, superficial, and absurd. You'd better have a great deal of money to afford anyone willing to sign such a prenup as she'd have to be equally superficial.
Such contracts *can* be broken if you are as obnoxious as you sound - all it will take is lots of your money and the great lawyer she hires. And you'd better hope you don't fall prey to some illness or injury where you can't hold up (literally) your end of the agreement.
Perhaps you should go into politics...Gingrich divorced his wife while she battled breast cancer, and McCain left his wife, upon his return, due to an accident she was in. Egocentric behavior seems to be common in political figures. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 6:13:29 PM |
Would it be fair to include in a prenuptial that your spouse has to maintain physical health and physique?
It would be fair if he signed to the same provisions.
I've seen many married women that "let themselves go" right after marriage. It is unreasonable to request in a prenuptial that your wife stays within a certain weight range, and if not, it is grounds for divorce without having to give her half of everything?
Some might think it's unreasonable ~ that whole "thick and thin, good or bad" stuff. I personally stay in better shape, better health and have a better mental attitude once in a commited relationship. I think it's all in how you think about it ~ no need to be in the best condition of my life for a stranger, but there certainly is reason to be in the best condition (mind/body/soul/etc.,) for someone I love. (And yes, men let themselves "go" just as often as women.)
I've heard that some people do this. Do their marriage last longer generally? Somehow I think it would facilitate a longer more fulfilling marriage .
I saw a program some 11+ years ago about a couple who weren't getting married, but had a Contractual Agreement (legally binding) for their relationship. It contained provisions from how often the cars were fueled to how many times per week they were intimate (and many other provisions as well.) The follow up show, about 10 years later provided the info I had wondered. Did it work? Yes it did in that case. They were just as happy as they day they agreed to the provisions and neither had failed on any of the terms according to them both. I don't know if they were just in-sync or if the Contract added/solidified all expectations ~ but it did seem to work for those two people.  | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 6:13:33 PM |
Would it be fair to include in a prenuptial that your spouse has to maintain physical health and physique?
But her mental health isn't an issue?
It is unreasonable to request in a prenuptial that your wife stays within a certain weight range, and if not, it is grounds for divorce without having to give her half of everything?
So, if she loses a limb by disease or accident, she must pudge up to the agreed upon weight range? A leg can be fairly heavy.
If she loses a breast to cancer, can she have a cookie?
I think the OP should simply buy a doll - can you custom-order those things?
Some people forget that when they have to give their ex spouse half of everything that they are gaining half of everything from their ex at the same time. Unless you marry and provide for a penniless, homeless, naked, unemployed person that contributes nothing I guess.
Tip: Don't date penniless, homeless, naked, unemployed people that are only interested in your wealth. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 7:49:06 PM | Gapeman - if there is such a pre-nup out there that is so sexist (about the weight), than I think the same thing should be applied to men. While we're at it, why not also throw in the income. If he or she loses the job, there goes the marriage. Ain't life grand. Oh, and such a stupid pre-nup to maintain physique/good health, what ever happend to the marriage vows "for better or for worse, in sickness, and in health". God forbid if one gets cancer, gets into an accident and becomes disfigured. Oh, and don't forget health conditions in which you have to take steroids. Last but not least, what about gray hair and baldness? Yep, such a pre-nup would be "realistic".  | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 8:19:30 PM | | As reasonable as a woman saying the husband would have to maintain a six figure income, and if he got demoted, laid-off, etc., she could leave and would not have to give him half of everything. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 8:36:12 PM | for argument sake! When one marry someone they marry someone they know there and then....10 years down the track the male/female got fat ! Now my question is if you have met this person they are now before you got married, would you have marry with her/him?
I am curious!!!!! | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable?
Posted: 9/7/2008 8:39:21 PM | In the first place men "let themselves go" right after marriage as much as women do, if not more.
No it is not fair or reasonable to request that your spouse always have good health or stay at a certain weight. Exactly how do you control your health? Yes we can do certain things to help our health, but we do not have complete control of it.
A more fulfilling marriage? You have got to be kidding, right? It would seem to me it would make for a life of tension. I would be so tense just thinking that I was married to a man that worried that much about my weight, that I would end up a bag of bones because when I am tense I can't eat at all.
This would not be a marriage based on love, but more based on looks. | |
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