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Well, the bottom line is none of us really have any idea what was intended by the remark. We're not privy to what was in Obama's head, so arguing about what we clearly don't know seems rather pointless.

Those who use their brain and poses an inkling of intelligence knows exactly what he means.

This was totally unacceptable for him to say as a Presidential Candidate.

I think we ought to just make the candidates play dodgeball to decide who's going to run the country.

"John McCain says he's about change too, and so I guess his whole angle is, 'Watch out George Bush -- except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics -- we're really going to shake things up in Washington,'" he said.

"That's not change. That's just calling something the same thing something different. You know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. You know you can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it's still going to stink after eight years. We've had enough of the same old thing."

For Immediate Release
Office of the Vice President
November 1, 2004
Vice President's Remarks in Honolulu, Hawaii
Hawaii Convention Center
Honolulu, Hawaii

THE VICE PRESIDENT: In the first debate, this year, Senator Kerry said America had to meet some kind of "global test" before we could take military action.
AUDIENCE: Booo!
THE VICE PRESIDENT: The President and I know better than that. We know that it is not our job to conduct international opinion polls. Our job is to defend America. (Applause.)
Now, in the closing days of this campaign, John Kerry is running around talking tough. He's trying every which way to cover up his record of weakness on national defense. But he can't do it. It won't work. As we like to say in Wyoming, you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig, but at the end of the day it's still a pig. (Applause.)
That's one of my favorite lines. (Laughter.) You want to hear it again?
AUDIENCE: Yes!
THE VICE PRESIDENT: As we say in Wyoming -- (laughter) -- you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig, but at the end of the day it's still a pig. (Applause.) This is a great crowd. (Applause.) All right.
AUDIENCE: Cheney! Cheney! Cheney! (Applause.)



For Immediate Release
Office of the Vice President
October 15, 2004
Remarks by the Vice President at a Victory 2004 Rally
Deltaplex Entertainment & Expo Center
Grand Rapids, Michigan

THE VICE PRESIDENT: All right, what are you guys doing for the next 18 days? (Laughter and applause.) You saw John Kerry Wednesday night trying to back off that idea of a "global test." That notion fits with his whole career, but he doesn't want us to know about his whole career. He is trying to hide it, to cover it up by using a little tough talk during the course of this campaign. But you can't do that. It won't work. To use a phrase that we like in our home state of Wyoming, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. (Applause.)


For Immediate Release
Office of the Vice President
October 30, 2004
Vice President's Remarks in Zanesville, Ohio
Hallowed Hills Conference Center
Zanesville, Ohio

THE VICE PRESIDENT: The President and I know better than that. We know that it is not our job to conduct international opinion polls, our job is to defend America. (Applause.) Now in the closing days of this campaign, John Kerry is trying every which way to cover up his record of weakness on national defense. But he can't do it. It won't work. As we like to say in Wyoming, you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig but at the end of the day, it's still a pig. (Laughter and applause.) That's my favorite line. (Laughter.) Want to hear it again? AUDIENCE: Yes! THE VICE PRESIDENT: As we say in Wyoming -- (laughter) -- you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig, but at the end of the day, it's still a pig. (Applause.)


Remarks of Mrs. Cheney and the Vice President Following a Debate Watching Party
Embassy Suites Hotel
Coraopolis, Pennsylvania
October 13, 2004
10:47 P.M. EDT

MRS. CHENEY: Was our man great tonight? (Applause.) This is the President that has made us proud for four years, and he will make us proud for the next four. (Applause.)
Now, I did have a chance to assess John Kerry once more. And the only thing I could conclude is this is not a good man. This is not a good man. And of course, I am speaking as a mom and a pretty indignant mom. This is not a good man -- what a cheap and tawdry political trick. (Applause.)
You know what he has been doing for this whole campaign is trying to dress up his political record any way he can; trying to hide, obscure, make sure we don't notice that 20-year record in the Senate. And didn't the President do a great job of bringing it out? (Applause.)
John Kerry tries to put a bunch of fancy, fancy talk -- tried to disguise that record, sort of like his fancy haircut, fancy manicure, tried to disguise the whole thing. (Laughter.) But there is nothing you can do to really -- to really obscure that record. You can try, though. And in Wyoming, we've got a saying for what it is when you keep trying to make something that's not so good look good, we call it putting lipstick on a pig. (Laughter.) Yes. (Applause.) And it doesn't work.
It doesn't work, does it, Mr. Vice President? You're on. (Applause.)

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/09/turns-out-dick-cheney-knows-ab.html

And Mr. Obama’s campaign responded by digging up a quote by Mr. McCain in 2007 in which he was criticizing a health care plan by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. “I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,” Mr. McCain said.

McCain rolls out health plan and a few punches
Posted October 11, 2007 4:33 PM

McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's health-care plan, he said it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the early 1990s.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/mccain_rolls_out_health_plan_a.html

In my point of view it should not have been said.. and its just one more reason to vote for the Republicans.... UGHHH ... in my case for the very first time..... I feel like a traitor backing this side.... but when the Democrats are so far off base and there is no third party... its the only choice.

was as shocking as hearing someone talking about war and God in the same sentence"

I think Obama considers Palin a pig ....not a scholar, not a real legislator, far from an intellect, and not a leader .... and McCain an old fish ....and he can barely contain himself

Think it was over the top, inappropriate,

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis claims, "She's not scared to answer questions," but then he proclaims, "...until at which point in time we feel like the news media is going to treat her with some level of respect and deference, I think it would be foolhardy to put her out into that kind of environment." (Who does this egomaniac think she is, the Pope? America is not a monarchy, even if King George thinks it is.) And he says, "...she will be available to the news media when and if we decide that that is going to be the case."

DEFINITELY! Definitely over the top and absolutely inappropriate. Any candidate that would stoop to that should lose votes if not fully be disqualified in running for office to be THE REPRESENTATIVE of our country to the rest of the world as well as a role model for our children. This is rediculous!

... its just one more reason to vote for the Republicans.... UGHHH ... in my case for the very first time..... I feel like a traitor backing this side....

In Iowa last October, John McCain drew comparisons between Hillary Clinton's current health care plan and the one she championed in 1993: "I think they put some lipstick on the pig, but it's still a pig." {John McCain}

He used roughly the same line in May, after effectively claiming the Republican nomination.

Other politicians have also used the phrase in recent years, including Vice President****Cheney, Sen. Maria Cantwell of Washington state, Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma, Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Rep. John Mica of Florida and Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, among others.

Torie Clarke, a former McCain adviser, even wrote a book called, "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning In the No-Spin Era by Someone Who Knows the Game."

Huckabee took Obama's side on the issue, saying he didn't think it was a swipe at Palin.

"It's an old expression, and I'm going to have to cut Obama some slack on that one. I do not think he was referring to Sarah Palin; he didn't reference her. If you take the two sound bites together, it may sound like it," he said on Fox's "Hannity and Colmes."

"But I've been a guy at the podium many times, and you say something that's maybe a part of an old joke and then somebody ties it in. So, I'm going to have to cut him slack."

Still, the McCain campaign says Obama's use was intentional, and they want an apology.
"Barack Obama's comments today are offensive and disgraceful. He owes Gov. Palin an apology," said Maria Comella, a McCain-Palin spokeswoman.

Obama's campaign said "enough is enough" and accused McCain of running a "dishonorable campaign."

"The McCain campaign's attack tonight is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card about the use of a common analogy -- the same analogy that Sen. McCain himself used about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care plan just last year," said Obama campaign senior adviser Anita Dunn. "This phony lecture on gender sensitivity is the height of cynicism and lays bare the increasingly dishonorable campaign John McCain has chosen to run."

But McCain's campaign is not about to let the issue go. They released a Web ad Wednesday that plays Obama's lipstick comments, then asks, "Ready to lead? No. Ready to smear?

Bowling or Moose-Skinning is a much better idea I think!