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ides incorrectly claimed Sarah Palin traveled into Iraq in 2007 and have since clarified that she stopped short at the Kuwait border, The Boston Globe reported Saturday.

The newspaper reported that campaign aides initially claimed the Alaska governor went into Iraq during her overseas trip to visit members of the Alaska National Guard.

But the Globe quoted a campaign spokeswoman clarifying that she visited a military outpost on the Iraq border with Kuwait, but did not have permission to go further.

John McCain’s running mate has faced questions about her foreign policy credentials. In her interview with ABC News on Thursday, Palin referred to her 2007 trip, which also included a stop in Germany, as a life-changing experience. She did not mention Iraq in the interview.

“That was a trip of a lifetime, to visit troops in Kuwait and stop and visit injured soldiers in Germany,” she said. “That was a trip of a lifetime. And it changed my life.”

She said she has also traveled to Canada and Mexico.

Barack Obama’s campaign referenced the Globe report in criticizing Palin on Saturday.

“The McCain campaign said Governor Palin opposed the Bridge to Nowhere, but now we know she supported it. … They said she visited Iraq, but today we learned that she only stopped at the border,” the campaign said in a written statement. “Americans are starting to wonder, is there anything the McCain campaign isn’t lying about?” Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said.

Wow!!

This thread is leaning so far left the building just may tip over!!!

-Suth'nBoy

If you look into the history of how Hitler came to power, it followed the same course.

I don't know how that applies, MAHBOI. I used Hitler as an example because of his notoriety. After WWl, Germany was in an economic mess. Hitler came along, blamed the Jews, and some other groups, for the country's problems, whipped up the German people using overly nationalistic and imperialistic speeches, and got them in the mood for war, basically. My point being that people who are in a bad economic situation, as many in this country are, can be led into war very easily by providing enemies, (terrorists), around every corner. It's the "fight or flight" syndrome. To decrease stress humans have to do one or the other.

Hillary Clinton stumping for Obama in Florida

Even though McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time, actually their PERSONALITIES are very different.

Personality Differences between Bush & McCain:

1. FAITH - While Bush was more overt about his Christian faith, McCain barely mentions his faith in public.

2. WAR - McCain was against the Iraq War at the beginning, then finally voted for it (probably under Party Pressure).

3. MAVERICKISMS - McCain has a proven record of being a Maverick. The Palin Pick was a perfect example of this (would Bush have picked a woman?).

4. BIPARTISANSHIP - McCain has a history of working across Party Lines, whereas Bush publically criticised "The Angry Left" at the RNC 2008 (sheesh...bad comment).

5. CLASSYNESS - McCain seems to be a classy and respectful individual (I think the OP agrees with this by his other posts).

Are these legitimate differences between Bush & McCain

Even though McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time, actually their PERSONALITIES are very different.
Personality Differences between Bush & McCain:

3. MAVERICKISMS - McCain has a proven record of being a Maverick. The Palin Pick was a perfect example of this (would Bush have picked a woman?).

4. BIPARTISANSHIP - McCain has a history of working across Party Lines, whereas Bush publically criticised "The Angry Left" at the RNC 2008 (sheesh...bad comment).

5. CLASSYNESS - McCain seems to be a classy and respectful individual (I think the OP agrees with this by his other posts).
Are these legitimate differences between Bush & McCain?

By Matthew Mosk and Chris Cillizza
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, September 14, 2008

A new group financed by a Texas billionaire and organized by some of the same political operatives and donors behind the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign against Sen. John F. Kerry in 2004 plans to begin running television ads attacking Barack Obama, a signal that outside groups may play a larger role than anticipated in the closing days of the presidential race.

The American Issues Project has amassed a multimillion-dollar fund, and the group is putting the final touches on an eleventh-hour campaign targeting the Democratic presidential nominee, sources said.

"We expect to be doing both issues and express advocacy between now and November and beyond," said Christian Pinkston, a spokesman for the group.

The effort could mark a sharp turn in what has been an unusually quiet year for outside political groups. At this point in 2004, such groups had already spent about $100 million dollars on television commercials attacking Kerry (D-Mass.) and President Bush, but they have devoted $8 million to ads so far in this election cycle.

The resurgence on the right appears as though it will not go unanswered. The Service Employees International Union is set to unveil a multimillion-dollar television campaign on Monday, and other liberal and Democratic-aligned groups are rushing to establish financing for efforts over the final weeks of the campaign.

At the outset of the general election, both Obama and Republican nominee John McCain called on outside groups to stay on the sidelines, hoping to steer funds to their own campaigns and party committees. Several initial attempts to organize independent groups for the 2008 presidential contest fizzled early on. But as the back and forth has grown more intense in recent weeks, both campaigns have signaled that their opposition to such efforts is softening.

AIP emerged on the scene in August, airing controversial anti-Obama ads in four battleground states -- Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan -- that sought to raise questions about his ties to William Ayers, a member of the Vietnam War-era radical group known as the Weathermen. The ad was sponsored entirely -- at a cost of more than $2 million -- by Harold Simmons, a Dallas-based businessman who also helped fund the Swift boat activities four years ago.

The new group was launched by Chris LaCivita, who was intimately involved in the Swift boat campaign, and Tony Feather, one of the co-founders of Progress for America, which spent tens of millions backing Bush in 2004.

According to sources familiar with AIP, it has secured significant financial backing from a handful of major donors and is planning more ads like the Ayers commercial in the weeks between now and Election Day.

Four years ago, mid-September might have been too late to organize for November. But the rules for outside groups changed after a recent Supreme Court opinion that loosened restrictions on corporate and union electioneering within 60 days of the general election. That enabled groups such as AIP, which is organized as a nonprofit corporation, more leeway to launch last-minute attack ads.

On the Democratic side, much of that effort appears to be falling to labor unions and a handful of well-known advocacy groups such as MoveOn.org and the Sierra Club. In the spring, a coalition of liberal groups that included the AFL-CIO announced plans to spend $350 million on political activities during the 2008 campaign season, but they have been slow in coming together.

Ilyse Hogue, the campaign director for MoveOn.org confirmed that the group will spearhead an ad campaign focused on what has emerged as the central theme of the fall campaign, the question of which candidate is better equipped to bring change to Washington.

"The fight is over whose plan for change is real, whose is genuine. And we're looking to put that in front of voters," Hogue said. "When you look at McCain and [GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah] Palin's ties to Big Oil, it doesn't pass the laugh test that they are for change."

Having spent recent elections watching conservative groups bombard Democratic candidates by taking a disciplined message to the television and talk radio airwaves, the leaders of several major left-leaning groups said they are ready to answer back.

"After years of watching the other side do this, it's finally something we've really gotten strong at," Hogue said.

But Republicans appear to have a head start. In April, Simmons, a corporate tycoon who had spent heavily on the Swift boat campaign, began holding meetings with other Swift boat donors to discuss renewing their effort for 2008-- meetings that included input from Bush's former strategist, Karl Rove.

At one of the meetings, Simmons presented his plans to oilman T. Boone Pickens, another financier of the Swift boat efforts, at a gathering in Simmons's Dallas office, Pickens said. Pickens ultimately chose not to get involved but said several others decided to forge ahead. Rove is not directly involved in the American Issues Project but has provided advice to a group targeting Democratic candidates for the Senate and House, known as Freedom's Watch.

American Issues Project is organized as a qualified 501(c)4 under Internal Revenue Service guidelines. As such an entity, AIP must use 60 percent of all its funding to make issues-based appeals but can use the remaining 40 percent to directly advocate for or against the election of a candidate. Any money spent for express advocacy must be reported through the Federal Election Commission, meaning that donors to the group will eventually have their identities revealed.

I'm not saying McCain is Hitler

Unfortunately, the things Obama talks about aren't what some people want to hear. I've asked myself, don't average working people know what kind economic trouble this country is in? And you know what? They know. But it is so depressing that they don't want to hear about it. The average person in the US is afraid; about losing his job, his house, cancer, cholesterol, the list goes on and on

Do we know we are being manipulated both psychologically and physiologically?

Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck

.....isn't is better to join McCain's feel good parade? Flags waving, adrenalinepumping, talking about going to war and kickin' butt?

....somebody like McCain comes along and starts
in with the war talk, it alleviates some of that stress. Of course, none of the original problems get solved, but people feel better for a little while....

If you look into the history of how Hitler came to power, it followed the same course.

. I don't know what crystal ball he uses....

This would lead the reader to come to the conclusion that McCain is similair to Hitler.

Its a very common tactic used in debate and is known as an informal fallacy.

By using your method of thinking, I could just as easily take up an argument claiming that Obama is following the same course Stalin did.