| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/27/2008 6:54:08 AM | I thought the women I saw was pretty damn accurate, but now its beginning to freak me out. She told me straight up that she wouldn't sugar coat anything and that she'd tell me everything she saw/felt. She informed me that she saw 2 deaths around me. One quite sudden and another someone will be diagnosed with something.
Well 5 days after the reading i found out my uncle had passed away suddenly.
Today I found out my ex has lung cancer and its spread to his brain.
These things didn't come about from some self fulfilling prophecy, from my hearing about it and making it happen.
If there was any doubt about whether she was for real after the reading (and I went back and listened to the tape and tried to see if I was giving away anything), its gone now. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/27/2008 9:15:14 PM | okimgame, I'm sorry to hear of your sudden loss and the news about your ex.
If it is freaking you out, it may be a worthwhile exercise for you to go back to your previous post where you detailed the things she told you... I would have thought saying something as specific as two deaths, one sudden, one diagnosed with something, would have made it into your original list.
I don't mean to be harsh here, ... interpretation, whether yours, hers, or anything else can often lead people either way too far on the cynic or believer track. this can be during the reading, after the reading or after some startling news has reached you and you are trying to make sense of it.
I believe you should always use your own intuition, no matter how much you want to believe in another's. And absolutely not did any of this come about because she said so... eegads that's how my ancestors used to get burnt at the stake!
as in post 21 i also know there are those who understand their role as the 'medium' through which otherwise unknown information / and or, healing can flow.
there are scientists working with practitioners on blind, double blind and triple blind exercises and some of the findings can be sourced through the forever family foundation and links from there (google it)
Chem it doesn't surprise me that you raised this topic : ) | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/27/2008 10:24:44 PM |
I would have thought saying something as specific as two deaths, one sudden, one diagnosed with something, would have made it into your original list.
I have a lot of very old relatives. 2 deaths would not be uncommon. And she just said 2 deaths without being specific as to who it was.
interpretation, whether yours, hers, or anything else can often lead people either way too far on the cynic or believer track. this can be during the reading, after the reading or after some startling news has reached you and you are trying to make sense of it.
I agree, maybe I interpreted incorrectly what she was saying about my ex. Maybe it was nothing to do with me moving on, but his moving on, and unfortunately not in this life.
That fact remains though that she was correct. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/28/2008 3:45:33 AM | I had three different messages from 3 different psychics telling me that my friend's passed father had come through and told me to tell the family he was okay They described him in great detail The third time his wife came through too She had been resting for a long time over there as she had died ill whereas he died in his sleep a bit later than her I told their family but being a bunch of cynics they did not accept it That is why I kept getting the message
Also I had visions of a baby girl that was hanging around me on my shoulder over a couple of weeks A Kiwi girl staying in the house later told me she could see it altho I had not mentioned it A few days later I found my son's unborn foetus had died in the womb and they had given her a girl's name and it had been induced.
They tend to go to people who are open to seeing them not necessarily the person who is most interested as they may not be receptive to it
Ghosts tend to be seen on the crossing of leylines [or songlines] where the barrier v dimensions is thinner and the energy strong Lots of evidence has been documented about this | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/28/2008 4:10:11 AM | Today driving to bris from the sticks just 'knew' I would be stopped for RBT................ It happened - coincidence, im cooky or what. Wasnt the hot young cop I pictured but almost anything in uniform goes  | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/28/2008 4:18:20 AM | | had a woman recently on the bay side come up to me in the street and asked if she could say something to me,,,i said sure go ahead,,next 20mins some very accurate and interesting comments passed from her lips to my ears...at the end she asked me my name and she said do you know its meaning and i said yes and told her the meaning..she then mention "astro trtavelling" and i told her i often do it...and we exchanged a "trip" in which we both did but was unsure who we had travelled together with...we were the two!!...u draw your own conclussions... | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/28/2008 6:56:52 AM | okimgame, your story was interesting. Sorry about your Uncles death and the sickness of your ex.
The reading was for 1 1/2 hrs, can I ask how much she charged?
I have been to many psychics over the years, some get it right, some get it very wrong but either way I dont mind.
I dont mind paying money either. People pay money for counselling, give donations to church, hand it over at pubs and clubs all to feel better, what makes this so different. For an hour I am given some hope and light and someone to listen to me and for me to listen to them. I always walk out feeling better and I only go once a year, so what if they charge. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/29/2008 3:40:59 PM | I don't believe it. I don't see how it could be possible given the currently believed laws of physics and our current level of technology. Though it is believed that someday we'll be able to use MRI's to read brain waves and figure out what people are thinking, it's too weak to say be picked up other humans.. the noise from other sources is enough to throw it off balance.
Also I know it was already brought up but why has nobody yet proved their powers, completed this challenge, and won a million dollars, it's been around for a long time now: http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html
Afterall, I don't think I've seen many psychics who do it for free, and they all seem to want to prove they are the real deal. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/30/2008 2:56:40 PM | I belong to a small Circle group that meets weekly. Some are very into the Spiritual Church and others like me go for the meditation and development of self and intuition. We do Reiki Healings and Bowen Therapy and as friends, we nurture each other.
We laugh, we cry, and do readings. Each is different in our own way. I have had some interesting readings and have intuatively passed some things on. No money is involved other than that someone donates to supper.
Living ones life in kindness goes a long way as does sharing your skills in whatever they are. Do I believe? For the most part yes as there are to many coincidences to dismiss it out of hand. Yet we should all have a healthy scepticism and a willingness to learn more. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/30/2008 8:40:05 PM |
there are to many coincidences to dismiss it out of hand. Yet we should all have a healthy scepticism and a willingness to learn more.
Well said kmac.
Is there such a thing a coincidence?? Why do some people experience a sense of deja vu often? Is it "just" intuition? Why are some people a lot more intuitive than others? How is it that a complete stranger can know things about yourself that even your closest friend may not know? How is it that psychics have helped solved murder cases?
For the sceptics out there and particularly the scientists that think everyone has to be scientifically proven to be true ... well perhaps the true psychics don't feel they need to "prove themselves", they know the truth and feel no need to prove themselves to people who are clearly never going to believe them anyway!?
Of course you need to be wise about your choices and I would never encourage someone to hand over $100 to a clairvoyant at a school fete or a phone psychic. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 9/30/2008 10:26:08 PM | It is about what you put out there into the cosmos comes back to you in kind.
One thing that really got to me was when I was on the boat over to Tassie and had been sleeping fine until I heard my sister groaning from seasickness. A sudden wave of nausea overcame me and I swear I thought I was going to throw up. I distinctly felt the hand of a friends son who had passed away on my arm reassuring me I would be allright. This lasted for a couple of minutes. It rather unerved me and I know I wasn't asleep because I had to get up and go for a pee. If I hadn't felt his hand on me I would have questioned more whether I was dreaming or not. I am quite sure I wasn't.
Having said that, if it brings one comfort without doing harm, costing money and you don't ignore the rest of your life focusing on it, then in my opinion it does no harm.
There are times we need to depend on our gut feelings/intuition/instincts. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 10/1/2008 4:00:34 AM | I am a believer, I have been to a clairvoyant ..Elizabeth Messenger (melb). And I took 3 photos of the men I had been dating over 4 years. (I needed to tell her the date of birth of each one) and she was right about each one. A bit scary actually. One of them she picked up that he had been violent. I asked him about this at a later date, and sure enough he had hit his ex-wife. Not to mention other several things she mentioned about him and other others. There is no way know she could have know about their past issues or life history. I am a believer. If anybody else knows of a good medium/clairvoyant.. let me know.
cheers
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 10/3/2008 7:03:52 PM | Let me set the record straight.
Everyone is born psychic, it is a natural gift. ever noticed babies and little children laughing or talking to something YOU cant see?
we tell our parents that there is something in our bedroom, or the boogy man is in the closet, they tell us its not real, its our imaginations, and when your told something enough, you start to believe it. So the presence that the child was seeing or sensing, disapears as they shut off their abilities.
I am a psychic and medium. I have been working as such for the past 15 years. I own a newage shop, had my own radio show for 5 years, teach spiritual and psychic development and there are 1000's of people around the world who will attest to my accuracy. I have been clinically and scientifically tested by a psychology department of one of australia's leading univeristies, also by the psychics association of australia. I have an accuracy rating of 98%.
Most psychics and mediums have an accuracy rating of around 85%.
we are human, we make mistakes so there has to be scope for error.
there are people out there who go to psychics and say "it was crap, they told me nothing (that sort of thing)". while there are charletons out there that do give the genuine psychic a bad name (youll know them when you go to psychic fairs, they have all the billboards, glittsy clothing INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN!! written somewhere on their stall (if they are that internationally known, why in hell are they doing a psychic fair in a little town in the middle of no where?))
its important to look at yourself first of all before accusing the psychic of being shonky.
are you open? you dont necessarily have to be a believer, but are you willing to give it a go with an open mind?
Is there something that you were scared that the psychic would bring up?
It is important to realise that having a reading done is a two way thing. its not a matter of reading someones body language etc. If the person having the reading is locking themselves away, isnt open enough (imagine slamming the door on someones face), a psychic will have great difficulty in reading you. It isnt impossible, but there are ethics involved also. I would never break through someones defences and closed door to give them a reading. its a privacy issue, If, subconciously, they dont want to be read, then im not going to smash down their defences to tell them things they REALLY dont want to hear.
A true psychic will not charge anyone for a reading that they arent happy with. I always ask my clients if they are happy with their reading,(most of them are crying. i go through boxes of tissues every month).
Some people come to me wanting a reading, they will sit down, shuffle the tarot cards, ill sit there trying to talk to their spirit guides and past loved ones... and ill get nothing... zero, zilch!
Ill tell them that i cant read them at this time. ill be completely honest with them. most times they will offer me the fee, but i decline it. How can i, in good faith take money for a service that i havent performed?
This usually happens when something traumatic in their life has occured (most often a death) and they are wanting to connect with that person in spirit. the time isnt right for them to have that reading. i suggest coming back in a couple of months, and when they do come back, the reading is perfect.
There are people that ALWAYS have readings, and i mean once a week. think of it as an addiction. instead of calling up the psychic phone lines, they see psychics, first thing i ask them, is when they had their last reading. anything within the last 2 months, i wont do a reading.
I had a woman argue with me for half an hour because i wouldnt give her a reading, she had one the day before, and 3 weeks before that, and a couple of weeks before that.
I told her straight that it is an addiction and that i would be doing more harm than good.
If i had been in it for the money, i would have taken her money and done a reading for her without batting an eyelash. She went across town to the other newage shop and had a reading done. all the luck to her, but i was content knowing that I had done the right thing for her.
Others in the industry are not so diligent of their clients welfare.
I know ive prattled on, i tend to when im passionate about something such as this.
Please view psychics and mediums with an open mind. dont condemn us because you had one bad experience.
As for lotto numbers, and believe me, ive tried for years, it is once again an ethical thing. Those of use who are psychic are meant to use our abilities to help people, not to exploit the system. It can be done, but the majority of those of us who are genuine, choose not to or are blocked by our spirit guides.
However, having said that, my mother loves coming to the casino with me, because i know the right pokie machine to go on and when to up the bet. but for myself, i cant do it. i usually end up losing my money, where my mother walks out with 500 extra in her pocket.
The most important thing to realise and the best advice i can give anyone who is thinking about having a reading, is to trust your instincts. if you dont feel comfortable with the reader, dont have the reading. even if they have been referred to you. go with someone your comfortable with.
Psychic: seeing, feeling, hearing or sensing events that have happened, are happening or will happen.
Medium: being able to communicate with spirit.
Clairvoyent: able to see events and spirits (visions, prophetic dreams etc)
Clairaudient: able to hear voices, music etc (most often misdiagnosed as schitzophrenia)
Clairsentient: able to feel things, (gut instinct, goose bumps etc)
Claircognient: able to know. (most people get this, just knowing that something is going to happen, or knowing the right answer
I hope this has helped clear up some tbings. if there are any questions, please message me privately.
Elf
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 10/3/2008 7:59:54 PM | Although i put on the previous post of mine "contact me if you have any questions", it was in relation to what i had typed.
I have recieved 10 messages ALREADY asking me for readings.
I dont mind answering the odd question, but im not going to give people readings over the internet. I give readings all week and i really dont want to do them on my weekends.
Sorry if i have disapointed anyone, but please, dont message me asking for a reading. Genuine questions i will answer however.
Elf | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer??
Posted: 10/3/2008 8:28:22 PM | I decided to go to a clairvoyant 3 years ago only to be told by her that she can't give me a reading because 'the spooks are standing over me and I must go and look after myself..I can't tell you any more than that'.
My death sentence lasted about 2 minutes and she still took my money. Never again.
What a load of toss | |
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