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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 10/5/2008 7:34:16 PM |
Looking into my crystalball both dates have been cancelled until further notice due to high fuel cost.
Yes I can see how that could be a factor. Price of gas is so bad I hear that drive by shootings have gone down 23 %..
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 10/6/2008 5:00:44 AM |
When I was just a little girl I asked my mother, what will I be Will I be pretty, will I be rich Here's what she said to me.
Que Sera, Sera, Whatever will be, will be The future's not ours, to see Que Sera, Sera What will be, will be.
When I was young, I fell in love I asked my sweetheart what lies ahead Will we have rainbows, day after day Here's what my sweetheart said.
Que Sera, Sera, Whatever will be, will be The future's not ours, to see Que Sera, Sera What will be, will be.
Now I have children of my own They ask their mother, what will I be Will I be handsome, will I be rich I tell them tenderly.
Que Sera, Sera, Whatever will be, will be The future's not ours, to see Que Sera, Sera What will be, will be.
I never met a woman who listened to flipper more than her mother.
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 10/6/2008 6:43:49 AM |
Everyone is born psychic, it is a natural gift. ever noticed babies and little children laughing or talking to something YOU cant see? we tell our parents that there is something in our bedroom, or the boogy man is in the closet, they tell us its not real, its our imaginations, and when your told something enough, you start to believe it. So the presence that the child was seeing or sensing, disapears as they shut off their abilities.
Every child who is suddenly thrown into existence will ask questions of the world around them. The child becomes, the child perceives potential danger , and being small, these dangers are great. The child will call for protection without hesitation, and the protector will come. As the child gets older, and begins to understand the world, percieved dangers become less and less. Hence a six year old child will not be distressed as a one year old. There are no "spooks". Just perceived "spooks".
I have been clinically and scientifically tested by a psychology department of one of australia's leading univeristies
Really? But you fail to mention what university. Why is this? Would it be because no such research took place? Or would it be because the study was flawed? Or perhaps you are afraid that people may look up the results ?.
I have an accuracy rating of 98%.
My accuarcy rating for detecting crap is 99%. What's your point?
It is important to realise that having a reading done is a two way thing. its not a matter of reading someones body language etc. If the person having the reading is locking themselves away, isnt open enough (imagine slamming the door on someones face), a psychic will have great difficulty in reading you
How convenient. You cannot "read" me because I am a skeptic. However you will "read" those people who believe whatever you say, and set about fulfiling your prophecy.
but there are ethics involved also
What ethics are those? Did you get them from the spirits also? Can you tell me the "true" ethical code? Bear in mind that if you quote the "golden rule", I will laugh and reveal your faults even more so.
How can i, in good faith take money for a service that i havent performed?
That is actually a very good question.
There are myths and ledgends going back thousands of years, in all different cultures about mystical beings such as fairies, mermaids, dragons etc etc. and it is my reasearch (i have studied history) that myths and ledgends are based on some sort of truth.
"Based in truth" and "Truth", are not the same things, as I am sure you know. Dugongs were decribed as "mermaids", and large reptiles described as "dragons".
Most people are religious, prove to me there is a god? prove to me, how a woman can concieve a child without sexual intercourse from a man (im talking about biblical times here)? thats what happened to mary right?
This is a real gem. What you are basically saying here is " Sure my ideas are weak, with no proof to back them up whatsoever, but so are lots of others".
"there are none so blind, as those who CAN NOT see"
On that we can agree.
for those who believe, no proof is needed, for those who dont believe, no proof is enough
And they are both as blind as each other. We are living in an age where the bending of time is a real possiblity. Where immortality can be made REAL. Where the CERN collider will provide us with insight as to how the ENTIRE UNIVERSE was created. Yet you rail against those that would dispel your ludicrous notion of "magic", and fail to see the magic that is our existence. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 10/6/2008 8:19:47 AM |
guess youll have to wait until 2009 to see if i were right, but by then, you would have forgotten about the prediction.
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 10/20/2008 11:48:19 PM | | I've been a tad psychic since a death (not just near death) experience. A similar experience years later intensified the 'powers'. I still haven't mastered them fully. I don't turn them on, and off, like a water faucet, or light switch. They choose when, and where, and how, to activate. From what I see, everyone has the dormant abilities, which are shut off by a fuse box like shunt switch in the brain. Certain cases of brain damage seem to break the shunt switch, and let the natural abilities flow. It is like certain drugs-LSD/etc- breaking the wall between the conscious, and the sub-conscious, minds. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 10/21/2008 12:10:57 AM | Actually, I told the FBI about the Twin Towers attacks in NYC four years before they happened. I did not have a date, but I saw the event, and named one of the parties planning it. I was told the matter would be investigated. I never heard more about it until the event happened. Warnings are not usually heeded.
In 1963 I had a vison/dream/whatever. I was standing in a local toy store, which had several pin ball machines near the front door. Fathers played the pinball, as mothers walked children around the aisles of dolls, cars, cap guns, etc. I'd been there several times before. This time there was a new, weird, electronic animation game machine next to one of the pinball machines. I watched others play it for awhile. Then I played it a bit. It was different, but interesting. I then left. Later I returned, and went to play the weird game again. It was gone. I asked the store owner about it, and he had no idea what I was talking about. I asked others who often frequented the store, and no one had seen it. I forgot about it and went on with other things. Many years later, I was in a pizza parlour, and wandering around the game area while waiting for my pizza to be ready. I played some pinball, and then heard a familiar tune. I walked down the line further, and saw a familiar game...the one I'd played in 1963 in the toy store. It was Donkey Kong...which had not existed in 1963. I had had a prophetic vision of a video game...of all things. The real game played exactly the same in life as it had in my vision.
I don't choose what to 'vibe in on'. Visions, intuitions, etc, strike me as they will. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 10/21/2008 3:45:56 AM |
Actually, I told the FBI about the Twin Towers attacks in NYC four years before they happened.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on free will. Do you believe in a deterministic universe where free will is an illusion, where the future is already written (four years in advance, in this case)? Is choice of little or no importance in our universe? This is the grim reality of being able to see the future before it happens.
For me that certainly puts a damper on things, as I like to think we're masters of our own destiny. At the same time I acknowledge we may not have free will - just because I'm partial to the idea, doesn't make it so. I cannot buy into the notion that a prediction of the future can be 'mostly right' - considering the butterfly effect of a small event can drastically change the outcome of everything that follows. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 10/21/2008 9:49:33 AM | | Hi folks, I know there is good and bad in every profession, I work with my mother locally doing psychic readings, also online. The red flag I would mention is when a psychic says there is a curse on you, or you need to perform rituals involving money, like wrapping money in a scarf. A true gifted person will charge you a straight fee without added expenses, the fee does not increase to double or triple the amount. You just pay for a service. I get upset when I hear of the crooks out there making it bad for the honest readers trying to do a service and help people. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 10/29/2008 4:59:27 AM | | Should you base your life on what your brother thought or did or on what you decide? A medium is alot different then a psychic. They delve into the spirit world and can relay messages. Where as a psychic may see things and not hear messages from the other side clearly. There is empaths, clairvoyants, psychics and all those in between. Each with a different gift to help others. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/2/2008 9:53:04 PM | mm should i tell..how will this make me look..ok here goes ..bear in mind my job background is scientific...u base things on hard facts ok. I am a cynic i dont know the first thing about psychic stuff...i figure its all generalization..psychology...hit n miss...stab in the dark...body language and so on...HOWEVER...
one sunday night , some years ago now, im lyin on my bed flickin thru a Womans Day right? they have all those psychic ads, so i think what a laugh ill just call it for a gag right?... So..here we go..ring ring...shes in melb she doesnt know me from a bar of soap..oh this will be good i think...a bit of entertainment..
I change my voice i play really dumb yeah well ok i dont have to try hard..i tell her NOTHING...
she says hello may i ask ur first name...lets see what have i have got here..the first name that comes to me is Sam..(chill, thats my fathers name he just died...i feel a bit pale).. (ok that one was a fluke)..she says another name..(double chill, hmm).. you work in a large building looks like a hospital.. (i just say no, Im not gonna help her out here)(gulp im a nurse)...she says i see someone...proceeds to describe me Exactly.and i mean height hair colour eye colour my clothes, no guessing no dropping hints... ..she proceeds to describe my personality Exactly...she says is that you? i say nope.i keep saying no calmly thinking it will throw her off. She proceeds to relate exactly a scene from the day before, which had disturbed me she says, (it did) involving a man who is pursuing me at work she even describes him and the unusual uniform he wears unlike others in his role.. she states where he was standing, how he had his back to me,what he said almost word for word, she said he has a shady past (im the only one at work that knows this about him).she says he follows me everywhere.he does. i tell her no. she says there is another man..you exchanged phone numbers two weeks ago..i say no...she says yes u did.she says it was in a place where there was this and this...she describes him exactly...height hair colour everything...she says i keep seeing a bicycle..i keep seeing a bicycyle...(he is my trainer that i met two weeks ago...he takes the cycle class at the gym yep we exchanged phone numbers).i dont tell her this.she proceeds to give further correct information of his intentions. (she says other stuff too). As she proceeds to tell me all about my youngest child,a boy, his age, almost a photographic type picture, as though she were sitting in front of him i REALLY start to freak out , say yeah right thank you gotta go! and hang up.My hand is shaking...I guess u had to be me on the other end of the phone, listening that night. Now , that was with no voice help, no believer, no body language, no possibility of generalization, no chance of knowing me at all. i only decided to ring two mins before....whaddayareckonaboutTHAT! dont ask me i dunno... all i can say about that, is..ummm...freaky, man.happy halloween everybody. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/2/2008 10:09:42 PM | | ^^^^^^^I really find it hard to believe someone can tell you all that and you are still a cynic. You don't need to understand it to believe there is some truth to what these people with these gifts say and the same as all gifts the depth of the gift varies. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/2/2008 10:28:02 PM | | yeah well, it was my intention simply to relay a first hand account babe...just to put it out there for people to think about.unbiased by my own opinions.Although where it comes from, what its used for, what you end up doing with it ..is another story again dont you think? | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/2/2008 10:42:15 PM | Thanks for sharing your story forever. Just shows you there are real psychics out there, and yes some of them are scarily accurate, I couldn't have just hung up like you did, I would want to hear everything she had to say, but that's just me. Clearly the woman you spoke to has a real gift  | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/3/2008 2:35:17 AM |
I would like to ask any psychics to let us know where ,the next terror attack is going to be and when .Heres your chance to show the world and perhaps save thousands of lives..any takers ?
looks as though you are confusing Clairvoyants & prophets up thats prophets not profits though some make a profit by faulsely forseeing the future
i to am a believer i do not see nor hear things that go bump in the night but i do get pre-warnings in the form of an overwhelming head-ache that often sends me to bed until i discover something un-cool has happened usually 1 of my kids getting hurt !
also i have attended a not for profit spiritualist church sometimes what goes on appears to be way out there but they have shown me the proof i personaly wanted to know ...all that is asked is you keep an open mind not wallet
if anybody happens to know where i could attend church in west melb could you please let me know i feel a need to get back there | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/3/2008 3:14:27 AM | I'd like to believe, I like to think some people seem to have amazing gifts.... BUT
I think if people were truly psychic etc. how come no one has been able to find out what happened to high profile missing children like Maddie? Surely if people had gifts SOMEONE would know something? | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/3/2008 3:36:50 AM | When it comes to pyschics/clairvoyants, I immediately think of 'crossing over with john edwards'. I see it more as an art form, where the psychic pays a lot of attention to your verbal/non-verbal cues, make inferences based on the way you look. They make generalised statements (i.e. clutching at thin straws) until you give away enough information for them to pounce. I think if anybody are as observant as the psychics, they would have no problems hooking up While I am open-minded to the possibility of true psychics who are out there, I believe most of them are just extremely observant and experienced at making inferences based upon appearances and limited exchange of information. After all, if they are incompetent at what they do, you won't find them on the classifieds advertising themselves. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/13/2008 2:07:27 PM | Lets Just say that some people are psychic, they can see the future or whatever special ability that they have
Why dont they use their powers to help the world??
if they are who they say then they can stop starvation, disease, poverty to name a few, but they dont why??
Because there are no true psychics,
Having a feeling or premonition is another matter
So why do you only find psychics in tents or on the internet or at a carnival? charging 20 bucks for a reading, i think that speaks for itself
Theyre scammers the lot of them , any scarily accurate psychic has probably gone through your rubbish bin the night before or picked up on your emotions and reading it back to you
i could waffle on about the people here telling you all my accurate impressions of your future and history and i bet ill be right with some of you, and the ones im not right with well ill just tell you what you want to hear
Psychics are for the weak minded and gullible im sorry to say and for those who believe in it, i bet you also believe that wrestling is real and the world is flat
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/13/2008 3:12:31 PM |
i bet you also believe that wrestling is real and the world is flat
it is to when my sons play it...but safer than (ninja turtles!)
& yes flat west of melb
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/14/2008 8:07:09 AM | I find it interesting how some people post that psychics should be helping to save the world, and in our way we do one person at a time. I just wondering what these folks are doing to save the world themselves. Are they volunteering to sit with the sick and dying? Are they raising money for the poor? Are they giving up there material possessions for a life of poverty...I think not.
Being psychic is being a humble messenger, we are not super powered folks. We are not saints ...just average folks with bills and children who try to make a small difference. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/14/2008 8:37:10 PM |
I find it interesting how some people post that psychics should be helping to save the world, and in our way we do one person at a time. I just wondering what these folks are doing to save the world themselves. Are they volunteering to sit with the sick and dying? Are they raising money for the poor? Are they giving up there material possessions for a life of poverty...I think not
I find it interesting too leeta, how on earth is a psychic supposed to "save the world". I think some people forget that there are some psychics that help solve murder cases and missing people cases etc. They ARE making a difference to the world.
Psychics don't "ask" for their gift, but most use it for good and to help others. | |
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| Psychics/Clairvoyants ~ cynic or believer?? Posted: 11/16/2008 7:22:16 PM |
I find it interesting how some people post that psychics should be helping to save the world, and in our way we do one person at a time. I just wondering what these folks are doing to save the world themselves. Are they volunteering to sit with the sick and dying? Are they raising money for the poor? Are they giving up there material possessions for a life of poverty...I think not.
Being psychic is being a humble messenger, we are not super powered folks. We are not saints ...just average folks with bills and children who try to make a small difference.
Why should non psychic try to save the world?
we dont have any of these amazing wonderful powers
are there chaistes of psychics?
you know different levels?
level 5 is reading teacups
level 3 maybe one who can see 3 days into the future
level 1 could be like that girl in xmen 3 who can control the weather
if i had psychic powers I Would help starving people etc, i would win a few lottos and sponsor a few thousand starving children at the very least
or dont psychice powers extend that far?
does it only work in tents and lounge rooms?
see the point im making?
its a bit convenient that psychics only (do one person at a time)
but if anyone is truly psychic why dont you at least claim the reward offered, theres a company in the US offering a worldwide reward of $1,000,000 dollars (under controlled testing) to any psychic who can prove their powers, so far none have been able to claim it, i think that speaks volumes, so no matter what any psychic may purport to be, at the end of the day, i believe the only person who believes in psychics is the psychic themselves, (and the gullible)
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