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Posted: 9/21/2008 2:00:13 PM | Shug, this guy you are describing, is just another play, except instead of being open to you that he is really a wolf, he is hoping you just see him as a sheep. Following the "Lords" word when it suites him.
There are many who know what it is like to be a lone and lonely, but this guy just wants to have his cake, and being getting it from the Church ladies social for free.
I hope that you dump his wolfy azz and keep looking, because he sounds like he has no problem in being "UnChristian" like, and still smile as he bows his head in prayer.
There are truly good respectful men out there, and ONES that still hold the values that they were brought up with. However they are getting fewer and fewer, because they get married. After the pond dries up, what do you have but pond scum, and the poor little fishy left to die without water.
He's pond scum...
Sounds like your interests and desires are as such, someone that really truly loves you. This guy loves one person and it isn't God.
I personally have gotten away from organized religion, because I got tired of the phoneys and fakes that used the lamb skin cloak to make themself appear worthy of my being.
I would challenge any foolish person (man or woman) where it says you should only be getting your love from God, to prove where that is part of the 10 commandments, and any other percieved script. Then I would look them square in the eye, and ask why they are search for gratification from anyone else besides God themself. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 2:32:17 PM | Well Mewsic and Sepia:
First the OP finally nailed it down to mostly one specific "christian man" who liked playing,,,,,,,,,,,,,both music and her. Sepia, U must've been asleep during all the scripture lessons about hypocrites and holier-than-thou religious types. As I recall the New Testament is chock full of condemnations of "scribes and pharisees",,,,the label for the outwardly pious religious folk of the day who were very careful about observing external protocol but were vipers on the inside, and as such conveniently disregarded the whole intent of the Law. Thumbing backwards in the Bible tune into Eli, the head rabbi who schooled Samuel. He raised two sons that were part and parcel of his administration as the high priest. Check out the description of those two "holy men". Guess what, there was a come-uppance for that behavior. So while some will try to turn this into another "bash christianity" thread basically it comes down to each and every individual you meet. You have to examine their credentials whatever they are and double check their description vs their behavior. If a guy claims he is a banker with impeccable honesty but instead robs you of all your savings and destroys your credit will we be seeing a thread,,,,,,,,,,,,,"Bankers,,,,are they worse than non-bankers about getting into your Victoria Secrets"????? | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 2:39:51 PM | I didn't get the impression it was a Christian bashing thread. Geez...
I have found that quite a few people (not only men but women too) who claim to be Christian or "devout" are some of the biggest hypocrites and "sinners" (for lack of a better term although I think it's fitting) around. How many members of the mafia consider(ed) themselves good Christians? Knock a few people off late Saturday night to get up for church early Sunday morning... I have a cousin who goes to church ever weekend and who is considered devout, and she's one of the most critical, close-minded, racist, nastiest b itches out there but she thinks she's got first dibs on "heaven".
If someone tells me they're Christian (or whatever other word you can put in there), it means nothing to me until they show me their true colours. For a lot of people, it's all about appearances, so if they think they look good by saying they're Christian, religious, or whatever, they're just as likely to lie, cheat, backstab, or worse, as the Atheist next door. I know some Atheists who are kind, honest, and genuinely good people. Claims of religious affiliation doesn't sway my decision about someone. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 2:44:39 PM | | I think it's kind of funny that a lot of women on POF are saying they want a "christian " man. A lot of women see once they go out with a christian man,he's all over them like like stink on shit! Ladies you better wake up because some of those same so called christians are the same ones that are messing with little boys! Just read the newspaper and watch tv! | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 2:58:28 PM | LOL@ Xcen... don't get your anointed panties in a knot...
Sepia, U mus've been asleep during all the scripture lessons about hypocrites and holier-than-thou religious types
um .. apparently U must have been asleep during reading comprehension class...
and thus completely missed my point... once again..
- Such irony knowing so many bigots and miserable dullards I knew who sat up in church every Sunday congratulating themselves on how God like and Christian they are, when so many were just plain ole scum...
So duh.. of course they are hypocrites of the worse kind which the Bible discusses as well...
I am a Christian so don't get sanctimonious and touchy with me ok? There is no Christian bashing here,,,nobody said all Xtians were ****.. just recounting the many ** I have known during my years growing up in the Catholic Church..
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Posted: 9/21/2008 3:14:30 PM | | boy, I love these forums! I have to agree that it's not the amount of times someone attends church that counts but his/her actions outside of those walls. people who describe themselves as Christians, devout church-goers, you name it and then act totally the opposite in the real world are just hypocrites and not worth your time. there are lots and lots of good, honest, decent men on this site and others who rarely, if ever, set foot in a church. I'll take one of them over the other kind any day of the week! as for me, I'll continue to do most of my praying at Orioles' games! | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 3:27:43 PM | Kevin - I totally agree with your statement. I think this thread is turning into a Christian Stereotyping Thread... lol. I myself am a Christian, but will be the first to tell you I am far from devout or perfect. And, I have dated Christian, and non Christian men, and have found that the religion does not make the man.
I have dated men that were completely non religious, and have found the same honesty, respect, and chivalry I am looking for in a man. I don't believe a man has to be Christian to be a good person and know how to treat a woman right. I have found that a person's background and upbringing influence their behavior while dating or in a relationship more than what religious beliefs they hold. Lots of times, yes, religion is a big part of a person's upbringing and childhood, but I am talking about their family life, and the values and ethics instilled in them by the people that raised them. The people they received their examples of relationships from.
The whole point is - being a Christian means you believe in and love Jesus Christ. And you should be proud to say so. But, just by saying so, you shouldn't be all of the sudden expected to be as perfect as Christ himself. We are human and make mistakes - all Christians believe that - otherwise we wouldn't need a Savior. We can't let ourselves believe that because someone has the label of "Christian", or any other religion, that they will not ever wrong anyone or make a mistake that hurts someone.
Anyways - that's my 2 cents. Hope nothing I said offended anyone. Take care.
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Posted: 9/21/2008 3:47:21 PM | Point being, taking on a religious title does NOT make the man. - nexthyme
I agree with this.
I was just reading an article about the $120million in damages (this will come from the parishioners' pockets) the Catholic Church dished out to former altar boys in Dallas, after a former priest, Rudolph Kos, sexually preyed on boys in his care over an 11-year period.
Kos' victims included Jay Lemberger, a one-time altar boy who committed suicide at the age of 20.
It's not just 'horny guys on PoF lookin' ta git laid' . . . The problem of wolves in sheep's clothing has been going on for a very long time and is not restricted to men.
The Catholic church argued that Kos had skilfully deceived everybody, including the boys' families, pointing out that he was suspended in 1992, as soon as the first youth complained about sexual abuse. Bishop Charles Grahmann said the Church would likely appeal the damages.
(No kidding?)
Like I said, sexual corruption, wolves in sheep's clothing, has been going on for many a century, and the problem goes right to the top, even to those cross-carrying, candle-lighting, finger-kissing, incense-swinging men in frocks, who set themselves above everyone else as somehow being more holy than your average Joe. The reality is very different.
How do you know if a guy is genuine, Christian or not? You will know him by his 'works,' as the Bible tells us - by what he does, not by what he says.
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Posted: 9/21/2008 3:55:45 PM | | No,,,In fact they are worse,,,,Just my experiences.{I can not stand Bible Thumpers} I think one should lead by example {Let me see how you live your life and your deeds,} | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 4:06:21 PM | | When around Christians guard youreself with all the highest effort because they(men and women) will use the term Christian to put you into a false sence of security bottom line when someone says Christian never let youre guard down even for a moment. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 4:51:50 PM | Lemme see here......as a christian....my faults....
I can be terribly impatient. I once threw a woman's cell phone in the cumberland river after she almost ran over me while on her phone. I've only drank one margarita in a year, alcohol wise.....biblically "drinking" is ok as long as you're not overdoing it. I haven't fornicated in 7 years.....believe that one if you will.
Folks, alot of Christians CAN be pessimistic, narcissistic, rude and obnoxious. Being a christian doesnt make one perfect.
Getting back to the OP's subject, you picked a stinker. It happens. yeah, there's some christians out there with some issues. Just like there's Buddhists, Muslims, and Atheists with issues. Irresponsibility and adolescent behavior both plague all races, ages, and religions. If he's preaching to you beforehand, yeah, that throws up a red flag....and has alot to do with why i dont attend a particular church(although i dont believe that makes me any less of a christian.)
You guys who are unleashing your wrath on the "holier than thou" as you put it christians.....I'm OK if I mess up. Im OK if you mess up. Don't say you're sorry, I won't say I told you so. Have too much to drink, I'll give you a ride home and a shoulder to cry on(so long as you dont puke on me.) I'll give you a "coaching" not a "preaching" to encourage you to make the right decisions in life. ***puts bible down*** I'm not a bible thumper right now.......I'm just a person who cares enough to care.
and with that someone will reply......."Who are YOU to care?!"
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Posted: 9/21/2008 4:58:28 PM | Well, I have dated some so called Christian men who were anything but Christian. The worst man to me was my ex husband and I met him in church and went to Bible School with him. One of the best relationships I ever had with a man was a man I met in a bar. We lived together for 3 years... and he was good to me..
But I agree with Kevin and think he wrote an excellent post.
I just wished people would act out their beliefes.. consistantly.
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Posted: 9/21/2008 5:04:00 PM | | You're right the term christian for many simply means I became a part of my church as a kid or was baptized as an infant but their faith never went beyond that, so some act out of ignorance of what a christian should be and some probably take advantage of the situation but (long sentence) there are those of us who do believe and try to live by higher standards - even then we are still human and can get caught up in the moment and allow things to go further than we would like or intend. We are all human so let's be careful what and where the labels are and are going... | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 5:05:57 PM | Just remember:
Going to church makes you a Christian, just as much as going to a theater makes you a movie. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 5:09:12 PM | | I think a person's professed religion has absolutely no bearing on what kind of person they are. Look at their behaviors, especially over time. There are some very honest, ethical people out there who aren't religious. And there are some pathological fruitcakes who claim to live by the Bible. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 5:39:47 PM | I'm so into this post I just drank out of the wrong cup! Bleh! That things been there 3 days! I'm not sure.....but i think that was diet Dr K. Agh! Key word there, Snakes, was "Claim".Living by the Bible.....and claiming to live by the Bible.....different things. There ARE many Christians who become exalted and look down on others.....I do my best to avoid doing so, and tell myself quite often, "Back up a sec, Whitey."
Self-Destructive behavior is still self-destructive, whether its spoken against in the Bible or not. Take the Bible out of the equation, and drunkeness, sleeping around, violence, etc, still bring forth negative consequenses.
So, getting back to the OP, I'd do a little more research on your dates. Hard to do on POF, but heck, ask questions. If they claim to be Christian, test their faith! Heck, I dunno, ask em how they'd feel about a "No strings attached night of passion!".If they agreed, me being a Christian, would probably try to be strong, never contact them again....."Buh-Bye with your Scurvy!" Now if we met, had Chemistry, and the night progressed, I'm as human as the next man.....who knows. Just be careful who you're hookin up with.
Again, someone will retort, "Whitey, who are you to care?!" | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 5:49:07 PM | | I know some truly wonderful Christian people. Sadly, many sociopathic personalities hide behind the church and religion as a way to seduce people into trusting them. They get into professions such as church official, law enforcement and the military, because they like to be in positions of trust. It really gives the good Christians a bad name. The guy I dated who turned out to be a sociopath and a pathological liar claimed to be a Christian. He claimed to read the Bible and put Bible quotes in his signature on his website. All the while he was cheating on his wife and defrauding the military out of a bogus medical discharge. It's pretty creepy. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 6:25:40 PM | inlabutnotalaguy:
Correct, Snake gets it. so did a few others. Others , well, their words tell their story. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 7:43:00 PM | I don't expect anyone to be perfect. The whole idea of Christianity centers around love. So if a Christian man is afraid to love and rejects it when it comes along, it seems pretty silly to me. If he repeats the same mistakes he's made in the past such as being drawn to cheating, alcoholic, contentious women that led to 2 divorces (I'm sure there was a level of hotness there) although he told me even if a woman was smokin hot, he would not date hr unless she was a Christian. I suspect I am not the type of woman he has fallen for in the past and I don't think he intentionally set out to take advantage of me. I think he is falling back to his old ways in realizing he still wants the woman with drama, and excitement - and hotness. Maybe he's hoping that a Christian supermodel will suddenly show up at his church one day. I know somewhere in his eyes, I don't measure up, and I'm sure his shallow ways started to rear their ugly head the moment he saw an imperfection (maybe I had a pimple). I know in my own eyes, that I have a lot to offer, and I am more loving than he will ever be. I told him I have no interest in finding love from an imaginary man, I'm looking for a real man to love. This is not the first time I have heard the old "You should trust more in God and not people" - I heard it from a pastor a couple of years ago when I questioned a betrayal towards me and he used that line on me to avoid being accountable to me. Of course that was after he literally got on his kness and begged me stay with the church. Talk about phoney and manipulative. Now that REALLY gets my hackles up.  | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 8:14:37 PM | Can't talk about Christian men in general.....
I will say that generally many men AND women who use the term Christian, use it loosely. It is almost like saying they are a man or woman...it comes very natural but it has no real meaning. A lot of people are not practicing or devout Christians and don't adhere to a particular church's teachings or Biblical teachings....they just use the title because it is acceptable culturally and it is perhaps the religion they grew up around so it is what they know and is just a way of identifying themselves with a group....but most are not particularly religious.
I guess some would call it hypocritical but I find it to be hypocritical when one professes far and wide their Christianity and is very judgmental and acts holier than thou and preaches Jesus night and day to others but then secretly lead another life or lives contrary to what one preaches to others. But society/culture-wise saying one is Christian is more about ideas you grew up around and not always a very personal lifestyle choice. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 4:15:36 AM | | Not generalization all christian men...Dating a christian man is a three some,Jesus is always in the topic of conversation. Sex is ahh..He mumbled a long prayer before hitting the sack, by that time I losed my horny.. it makes me feel like a pious nun... | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 6:06:13 AM | | Ok, so there was that one time I said a silent prayer about my "performance"........but I was married then! | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 7:00:30 AM | I really get tired of people saying go to church to meet a nice man , just because you meet him in church does not qualify him as better or more moral. however many people that masqurade as a Christian are the furtherest thing from it.
Sure - There are plenty of nice MARRIED men at church - I'd say about 98 percent of people at church are married couples. The other 2 percent of men are there because they are struggling to deal with "issues" like addiction, divorce, etc.
The ONLY single guy at my old church was a farmer and neighbor - much older nice guy, but had a toilet sitting in his front yard for months, and thinks all women are after his money. He would call me a "fox" one minute and criticize my weight the next.
The single women seem like the social outcasts and usually the minister is obviously not comfortable counseling them about private or personal issues. Church people will REALLY look down their nose when they know you are dating a non-believer, because they think that you must be having sex with them - what else would you do with a non believer? lol
I have been working for churches for over 15 years now and it certainly is not teaming with eligible single men. I have gone to singles retreats where it is mostly older divorced women and virtually no men. The younger men who do happen to show up are sadly disappointed that there are no smokin hot chicks.
I met one Christian man online that believed any man a woman had sex with in the past was considered her husband in God's eyes, so he considered me to be "divorced" since I was not a 45 year old virgin. I guess that makes me a polygamist too. | |
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