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Posted: 9/25/2008 6:40:02 PM |
I just don't see how that whole "dating friends" thing works. If a guy I meet in online dating says he just wants to be friends, (which the one in question has) - what does that mean? What exactly would we do together as friends if he doesn't want to go out to dinner, to a movie, go for a walk, hang and talk, etc? There is NO romance, therefore I see no relationship potential. After playing for churches for over 18 years and sometimes hearing the same sermon 2-3 times every Sunday, reading the bible together for hours is not my idea of fun or relaxation. I don't want to sit around and talk about love, I want to live it. I can't be friends with someone who wants to talk about love yet doesn't welcome it in his life.
Interesting perspective offered...  Never having been a big dater, I can't really speak for others... but friendship mode doesn't automatically mean not interested to me. I'd rather take my time anyways, and prefer to see if we can get along without getting all hot and heavy first. See if we can just enjoy each others' company, carry on a decent conversation, etc. Intelligence is important to me, as is personality... ;-) I don't know why one couldn't go to dinner, walk and talk, etc as friends...
Reading the Bible together for hours isn't my idea if what to do on a date either, at this time... although I would certainly hope that a lady had at least a reasonable knowledge of it... or was willing to discuss passages that might seem important at that time. Not for hours, but more of an informal "What do you think of this passage, what's it mean to you? etc." And then go and DO something, whether see a movie, take a walk, play mini-golf, work on something that needs to be done around the house... whatever. 
Course, maybe I am just an unusual guy... that's alright with me!   | |
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Posted: 10/29/2008 4:42:22 AM | I don't know. Personally, I think there are many that claim they're inherently good inside, but few who can actually be an honorable person, simply because it requires work to do so. Naturally, as you know, some don't want to work at a relationship very long, even if it's a relationship with God.
How can you develop a good relationship, with anyone, if you don't have a friendship first? That just doesn't make sense to me. I mean, what would you have, if you don't have a friendship...just sex? If one wanted JUST that, they can find that anywhere...but, if you want something that will stand the test of time, with someone you care about, well...it's not going to happen, if the two parties aren't friends first.  | |
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Posted: 10/31/2008 8:45:38 PM | ZZZZzzzzzzzz 
OP, I have read all your comments and excuses. Lets be friends.  | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 2:01:38 PM | I read Spetty's message and wow I was so impressed that I had to respond. Im sure what I am going to say will stir up somthing and i don't meen to but..the way I was raised was that to be a Christian ment to be like Crist..So I try to watch how I say I am a Christian..I try to say I am working on being a Christian...I do love the lord and I want him to look dont on me and be proud...that im one of his.And yes we are humans and we to get caught up in the moment and yes we need to be carful.
I hope I did not say anything to afend anyone! If I did please forgive me. | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 3:03:06 PM | Trina - I don't think anything you said was offensive at all. I kind of have the same attitude although I question God about many things because of all the cruelty I see in the world. When I started this thread, I was agitated about anyone using Christianity to push their own agenda or manipulate someone. If they are going to preach to me, their own house better be in order. It is really confusing for me to see someone drinking almost daily, has no problem with using a woman for sex, has 2 ex wives with restraining orders, telling me my life would be great if I spent more time reading the bible and in prayer daily. I have been a church pianist for almost 2 decades and have listened to more sermons than he has empty JB bottles. Him telling me that the bible is against marriage to push his own feelings about non-commitment is insulting to my intelligence. Someone with huge problems telling me how to live is annoying.
My life is very good - I have none of his problems and I had a very abusive upbringing. I have no ex's, no drug or alcohol problems, and treat everyone the way I would want to be treated. The only improvement would be a decent guy or winning the lottery and I don't gamble. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2009 6:32:36 PM | Someone who holds up their Christianity as a badge to manipulate others because they are "a good person" is misguided at best. A true believer may try and walk a more moral walk, but would never flaunt their goodness in an effort to control others. Their walk in life should be reflected in their character and their actions, not their words. Words alone without behavior backing it up are hollow.
I feel very sad that so many people posting on this thread have been turned off by the actions of some who use the label with selfish intentions. Please however do not label all who identify with the faith as hypocritical
I was married to a man that was not just labeled a Christian, but was in every sense of the word. He refered to himself as a sinner saved by grace...........which all Christians are.
My late husband was even more Christian at home than in public if that is possible........because he did not flaunt it. He believed as I do, that a person is known by their fruits and not their words. However, he led many people to Jesus, because they saw something in him..........not a facade.........but a genuine article.
I met one man on another site that I talked to for hours and hours before agreeing to meet him for dinner. Walking out of the resturant , he was worse than any " worldly" man I have ever known. He is lucky to still have his legs working.
Many people do use their religion and or lies about who they are to get next to somebody. This is not only a person labeled Christian..but in every walk of life.
I met a man that I had somewhat of a relationship with over a long period of time...........hit and miss. His profile also said Christian..........I don't judge beliefs, but he certainly was not a "practicing Christian.
I knew then I should have run....but I had already become attached to him through months of emails and phone calls. He was my first real interest after my husband had died...and his flirting and mannerism online made me feel alive again.
But alas....online and in person were a HUGE difference. It was turmoil for me thru all of it. It was a constant battle for me to even be with or without him....because I knew in my heart it wasn't right.
Nothing about it was right. For me, it was just as WRONG to attempt to lay aside what I believe and try to live, as it was for anyone else to profess to be a Christian when they are not.
The whole basis of our relationship was built on lies..............or ommissions. He couldn't understand my convictions and I couldn't understand that he couldn't understand. He held a double standard for me. He could do as he pleased..but not me.
I tried several times to cut myself off from him..........stalled my prayer life because I wanted what I wanted.........and I couldn't have it and still be faithful to God..........and always wound up calling or writing after 3-6 weeks. Not neccesarily to get back together, but I didn't like the tension . I didn't do what most people would consider
"sin"......but I knew I was not with or where I should be in my walk.........and the desire was there.
The last time I done things I knew could not be undone....pushed it on purpose.....and made him angry enough to call it quits. That worked for me.......
I know he still doesn't understand or CARE............but it is finally over and surprisingly I feel like a new day has dawned.
Now I don't even want to consider dating a man that I would be unequally yoked with. I am no prude........and I enjoy everything " normal" people do.........I love sex, good food, fun, etc................but in the bounds of what I believe and am comfortable with.
I use the excuse that I may never have been involved with him at all if I had not been a wounded widow with my heart still freshly gouged. That may or not be the case.......but it is not a valid excuse........at least not for me..........because I knew better ! I tried to ignore all those " checks" that the Holy Spirit gives us.
God does forgive when we ask.......but you can't unscramble eggs. Forgiving ourselves is the harder thing to do. We all "fall" but it's whether we chose to stay down or not.
There is a lot of pressure on both genders with morality and lack of true Christian values at an all time low.
I hope that you do not judge all "Christian" men on the basis listed in these threads.
Some of the finest men I have met in my life are Christian. They are not wimps, not phony's and have a genuine desire to be Christ-like. You just have to watch their actions more than their words. And the genuine article is out there!! | |
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Posted: 1/15/2009 6:54:26 PM | | I agree with the Op. Any man can say he is a Christian few men can show that they are. | |
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Posted: 1/18/2009 12:50:10 PM |
I have dated men that were completely non religious, and have found the same honesty, respect, and chivalry I am looking for in a man. I don't believe a man has to be Christian to be a good person and know how to treat a woman right. I have found that a person's background and upbringing influence their behavior while dating or in a relationship more than what religious beliefs they hold. Lots of times, yes, religion is a big part of a person's upbringing and childhood, but I am talking about their family life, and the values and ethics instilled in them by the people that raised them. The people they received their examples of relationships from.
The whole point is - being a Christian means you believe in and love Jesus Christ. And you should be proud to say so. But, just by saying so, you shouldn't be all of the sudden expected to be as perfect as Christ himself. We are human and make mistakes - all Christians believe that - otherwise we wouldn't need a Savior. We can't let ourselves believe that because someone has the label of "Christian", or any other religion, that they will not ever wrong anyone or make a mistake that hurts someone.
Very good insight and very well put. We are all impacted by our past negatively and positively. Instead of bashing these terrible men or horrible women who have played us, we need to be wiser in our choices and learn from our mistakes or blindedness. Bitterness toward the opposite sex only destroys us and any potential relationship we could have. From a man's perspective I can relate to the woman who made the original post. We've all been burnt by the opposite sex. I could tell you stories about my "christian" ex-wife that would make your eyes pop. Understanding her background and inner struggles enabled me to come to grips with why she did what she did and to stop blaming myself. Christian's make horrible mistakes just like non-christians becasue we are fallible and human. We were not placed by God in the exempt category just because we are followers of Christ. My ex- wife wasn't. I wasn't, nor am I now. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2009 4:37:59 PM | | Any Christian-man or woman, should uphold Christ's standards for behavior. Having said that, I can say, like the apostle Paul, that I am chief among sinners. It's hard to put down the flesh. I know w/o a doubt that if there is a lack in my life that God will either fill it or give me the grace to deal with it. It doesn't matter what it is... fill in the blank. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2009 5:39:02 PM | People ( and men are people, as are women) have varying degrees that they compartmentalize. And yes, it is sometimes astounding as to how they can reinterpret reality and behavior to fit whatever compartment they may be in at the time. I don`t really understand it, but then, that is how people are.
I have noticed however, that people that seem to be more in the middle as far as their values, non judgemental, and not extreme, seem to be more predictable and straighforward as far as how they conduct their lives. Those that seem to be very extreme and trying to be of a higher moral fiber, more often than not have this alter ego that offsets the extremely virtuous side of their personality, thus balancing it out. A Jeykl and Hyde so to speak. It`s like the last person you would ever suspect is often the very one surprising you with some behavior that you didn`t think was in their realm. They try to be so hard to be good that then they just snap and do something not very good. I guess the best thing is when you meet someone with an extremist lifestyle or viewpoint, expect the pole to swing more than with an easy going person. At least this is what this old bird has noticed. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2009 3:34:01 AM | I can sympathise, MissMewsic. I used to hear woman after woman say that all she wanted was a relationship, and then would date those men who everyone knew for SURE that they only wanted sex, and said that they only wanted sex, and didn't want a relationship at all. I could understand them not dating me. But not dating me, when all the women around were sure that I wanted a relationship, and then only dating players? What's up with that? Not only that, but even when they'd slept with the guy and he didn't call her, a few weeks later, she was all over him, and chasing him, again and again. It's like they claimed to want a relationship, but only go for sex. I could understand ONE woman doing that, but hundreds of women I know? Let alone the entire population of women in the world? Makes you wonder about women.
If you are looking to date someone that is going to respect you, and not do things you don't want them to do, then YOU have to be of the same modeling of those beliefs yourself. That's true. You cannot respect someone who only dates you because you look good, or because you have money, or a car, or because you are younger than her, or a lot taller than her, and she'd never date you if you were otherwise, simply because of a quality that has nothing to do with who you are as a person. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2009 10:17:42 AM | | I see Christian singles as really having an unhealthy attitude about sex. Part of that is the message Christianity and the church gives is that sex is only meant for marriage and if you happen to find yourself without a ring on your finger you are SOL. I have been involved in a large cross section of churches where a singles ministry is non existent and when I look around the sanctuaries it is the eldery, youth, and marrieds. I am 46 now and have been told all of my life that sex is bad and no men are to be trusted. I am no longer going to apologize for being a good and loving person, for choosing not to marry the first guy that came along, and for being the kind and gentle soul that God made me. I have stopped caring what the church thinks. If some guy that wants to sleep with me tells me God will send me a husband if I read my bible more and spend more time in prayer, he is saying God is like some kind of a slot machine where if you play long enough you might get lucky. Iam tired of being told all of my life "You'll meet a nice man in church". The men that I have dated who were professed Christians have been the most judgemental, repressed tools I have ever met. I don't want to waste another year of my life on that kind of thinking. If it means I have to abandon the church then that is what I need to do. I feel more happiness and freedom without the legalism of Christianity telling me I am not ok as a sexy single woman. It seems Christian singles seem to enjoy going through the rollercoaster of guilt - giving in to sin (which God made us as sexual beings) and self loathing afterwards with disdain for the very woman they sinned with. There was a woman on a show recently that had been married 7 TIMES! When asked why she felt the need to be married, she said her father was a baptist minister and she was taught it was wrong to have sex outside of marriage. Now I don't condone promiscuity, or having children out of wedlock, but it's time that Christian singles got a grip and stop condemning those of us who don't adopt their neurosis of guilt and shame when they were willing participants. When they aggresively pursued the "sin". and turn around and judge the very person they were pursuing. I think it is because of all the guilt and repression that many of them struggle with alcoholism, sex addiction, drugs, anger, etc. I see single Christians under pressure to live like priests and nuns when they choose not to be married as unnatural and leading to severe dysfunction. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2009 11:42:48 AM | ^^^^^^Totally agree, from experience. The guys that are professin and giving you a third degree about your church going habits, telling you about their church/social affiliations, and trying to impress you about what a moral man he is, every single time has been the biggest"tool" on the first date. Acting sexually inappropriately, getting an attitude and being nasty when turned down, I mean real head cases. This has happened to me several times. If a guy starts grilling you about your faith before you even go out with him, watch out, major red flag, and the worst kind. Domestic violence rates are also the highest in the professed morally right group of men.
I think it is a personality type, and one that needs to be stayed away from. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2009 1:56:15 PM |
I see Christian singles as really having an unhealthy attitude about sex. Part of that is the message Christianity and the church gives is that sex is only meant for marriage Try checking out Hare Krishna. AFAIK, they think that sex is ONLY for having kids, and that the rest of the time, it just makes your life worse. AFAIK, Buddhists also believe that attachment to sex is going to ruin your life.
and if you happen to find yourself without a ring on your finger you are SOL. I have the SAME problem. But ONLY when I am around married people. Single people are happier to accept single people.
I have been involved in a large cross section of churches where a singles ministry is non existent and when I look around the sanctuaries it is the eldery, youth, and marrieds. If I go to synagogues, I see the same. If I go to dinner parties, I see the same. If I go to more adult events, I see the same. If I go to nightclubs, I see the reverse. No children, no old people, no marrieds (or no-one admitting to it). It does seem to me like there is a social apartheid between those who are seen as single and in the prime of life, and those who are either married or children or old people.
I am 46 now and have been told all of my life that sex is bad and no men are to be trusted. I've been told the same thing all of my life by women.
I am no longer going to apologize for being a good and loving person, for choosing not to marry the first guy that came along, and for being the kind and gentle soul that God made me. I have stopped caring what the church thinks. I gather the church is not in favour of pre-marital sex. So it's not surprising that you might find disapproval. I doubt that if an obese person would be treated kindly by people who are not in favour of obesity.
If some guy that wants to sleep with me tells me God will send me a husband if I read my bible more and spend more time in prayer, he is saying God is like some kind of a slot machine where if you play long enough you might get lucky. How is that different from dating, where if you play long enough, you might get lucky enough to fall in love?
Iam tired of being told all of my life "You'll meet a nice man in church". Well, people say all sorts of things. People say that "you'll get over it". People say that "you'll meet a nice girl" to the 1.5% of involuntary celibates in the USA. People say all sorts of things. I understand it would make you happier to believe this. But you know people lie. Without even dating, you've seen just how many tools there are in the world, amongst men as much as women, and I know that religious people have plenty of obnoxious people amongst them, almost as many obnoxious people as non-religious people, just from hanging out with them for a year. I gather you've spent a lot more time than that with religious people. So I am sure that you already know that. So there is every reason for you to not accept this at face value.
However, if you choose to accept this, simply because it is easier not to fight the issue, or because it is more tempting to accept, then you are doing similar to all those women who have slept with thousands of men they never were attracted to, and never wanted, and were never happy with, simply because the guys told them that they "loved" them, and they wanted to believe it.
I think it's fair to say that as long as you lie to yourself, and you refuse to accept honesty with yourself, guys are going to see no reason to be honest to you, because you'll reject them if they are being honest with you.
But being honest means accepting the truth, no matter how much you prefer not to accept it. Accepting that you've been lied to, and you liked that lie and were seduced by it, is the first step, and the second step only comes after the first. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2009 12:00:23 PM | "Buddhists also believe that attachment to sex is going to ruin your life."
WoW glad no one ever told that to the Buddhist girls I have dated. They all had a much healther aproach to sex then 9 out of 10 of the Christian women I have dated. Not that all christians are messed up about sex, but lots of them are. Spend a few years in asia (pick a buddhist country) and then tell me they think sex is going to ruin them. But then again the Chirstains in asia are less messed up about sex too, but not the same as the buddhists. Just about every none muselum country has a healther aditude about sex then is found in the USA, so it not all about being christain, but that has had a big impact on it. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2009 6:06:09 PM |
WoW glad no one ever told that to the Buddhist girls I have dated. They all had a much healther aproach to sex then 9 out of 10 of the Christian women I have dated. Not that all christians are messed up about sex, but lots of them are. Spend a few years in asia (pick a buddhist country) and then tell me they think sex is going to ruin them. But then again the Chirstains in asia are less messed up about sex too, but not the same as the buddhists. Just about every none muselum country has a healther aditude about sex then is found in the USA, so it not all about being christain, but that has had a big impact on it. It depends what country you are talking about, and what time you are talking about. For instance, from what I've gathered, it seems that if you work in Japan, you can date the girls from the office, and do what you like outside the office. But inside the office, you cannot even kiss her on the cheek, or show any familiarity.
But Buddhism does preach that having too much attachments to material things is going to make you unhappy, and especially sex. It's got a point. The USA is probably the country most obsessed with if you have a boyfriend/girlfriend, and how attractive he/she is, and as you've put it, they seem to be the ones most messed up when it comes to sex. It's not about how much you have sex. It's about how much you WANT sex, and how much you can let it go, when other things come up. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2009 3:34:39 AM | | I have live and worked in Korea and Japan and office rules and what happens outside of the office are much different. In Korea the TV shows do not get into the realities of sex lifes too, but that does not mean that reflects what goes on. There are rules every place on when and were, but Buddist do not think lots of sex will make you unhappy, the they know it is an important part of being happy, at least that how they live it. | |
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Posted: 5/25/2009 4:29:08 AM | "But Buddhism does preach that having too much attachments to material things is going to make you unhappy, and especially sex. It's got a point. The USA is probably the country most obsessed with if you have a boyfriend/girlfriend, and how attractive he/she is, and as you've put it, they seem to be the ones most messed up when it comes to sex. It's not about how much you have sex. It's about how much you WANT sex, and how much you can let it go, when other things come up."
I think this is correct, and the emphasis tends to be that it is the attachment (in an egoistic and lustful sense) to sex or anything else that is the root of evil and suffering.
The negative attitude to sex does run in the Christian Church. I think this owes its origins to the rise of monastic traditions in the early church which shunned the world and also sexual activity and attachments. It is interesting that Christianity has monasticism but Islam and Judaism don't, a feature it shares with Eastern religions from India. While Christian theology does teach sex is good, the context in which it happens has to be carefully controlled for it be licit. Christian theology attaches (as with Buddhism) the excess desire for sex or to sex as a sin, though sex itself is not evil as marriage after all, was created and blessed by God. The excess and egoistic desire for sex is seen by many as a sign of original sin, the strange tendency of people to be selfish and focused only on what 'I' want at the expense of others. In other words, the wrongness when it comes to sex is when it makes us desire the Other as an object to fulfil lust, and not a person.
Despite the apparent world-hating and life-denying attitude that seems to lie at the base of such a view, I think it has some merit. Too often in our individualistic society the attitude to sex and relationships is 'What can I get out of this' rather than 'How can I share myself lovingly with another person at the deepest level?' I think a proper attitude to sex involves moral praxis in the sense we should think about what we do and why we do it in sex as much as anything else. If the intent is just to use another person as something to please ourselves like an inanimate object, then there is something wrong; but if we approach the Other as a person like ourselves, then I think we are on the right track. | |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 8:23:10 AM | | My ex father-in-law, a simple country man, said it perfectly " Always watch out for the one that is sitting in the front row at church on Sunday" That pretty much sums it up as far as I am concerned, and the way it has been from what I have experienced. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2009 7:22:39 PM | Not all Christians can keep their sexual urges in check. Its a shame but its a reality.
You know a Christian by their walk. Women are the same, most of them like to****around but they aren't saying and the men aren't telling. You'd be doing god and that PERSON (male or female) a favor by walking away and saying see ya later, fornicator.
So a person who believes in Christ is not supposed to have sex? This is what bothers me most about Christianity (or general religions) is that it demonizes sex. Sure - they say sex is meant for marriage - that's great if you are married. I'd just as soon not let a man take over my life in that way. He would practically have to walk on water himself for me to commit my entire life to him just so I could have sex.
I don't feel that sex is wrong unless it is soley for the purpose of using and discarding people.
What bothers me most is the men who are the most noisy about the evils of sex who come on to women the strongest and then afterwards preach about it as if it's all the woman's fault and they didn't have anything to do with it. I refuse to listen to their crap anymore. The man that inspired me to start this thread was as Jekyll and Hyde as they come - I blocked his IMs and his calls - he can devote all his attention to his right hand or Jesus and leave me out of it. Sorry for being crass, but I get so fed up with this overly religious, uptight, woman hating society that keeps telling ME sex is evil while everyone else is racking up failed marriages, illegitimate kids, general dysfunction. Christian marriages have as much failure rate as any other. | |
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Posted: 9/25/2009 8:36:43 AM | Yes I think this is the difference. I have dated men who claimed to be Christian and prayed. But he didn't attend services saying he didn't have to go to church to be in a faith with God.
Well I found the opposite. Those people who actively pursue their faith, those who are involved in church, ministry etc usually are more devout and living the life of a Christian. Not always as you can find liars and deceivers even in church.
But for the most part men who make an effort of their own accord to pursue their faith, attend church, bible studies , get involved in ministry etc show their faith is strong and they will pursue a relationship with God not just because their girlfriend wants them to or because they were married and that is what was done at the time becaue their wife attended. They show an interest in faith on their own and I think this is different between them and those who give lip service.
There a ton of people of people who affilate with Christianity but do not really make it a true part of their daily walk. They go on holidays (Christmas and Easter) say occasional prayers especially when times are rough. Tthey are not realy followers of Christ in the real sense. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 4:31:48 PM | | Op who wants a used bit of goods? Some broke joke of a man who has to pay child support with most of his paycheck and lives like a public toilet waiting for any lady to use him? A Christen man is able to have self restraint and knows what he wants enough to be meek. You can get to know a person better and see their true nature when they are not trying to impress you or jump through hoops. You must ask yourself am I looking for a life partner or a good time? Why because if you get to know a person a complete man by being his friend both of you become human to each other and not just not a piece of exercise equipment. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 6:13:35 PM | | Yes - A man can scream about loving Jesus till the cows come home, but the real proof to me is in how he lives his life and how he treats me. I think most men who are born again, but their lives are a wreck and full of addiction or drama are using their religion to justify everything by saying "well we are all sinners", or "at least I'm forgiven" - Then they can live as despicably as they want and have Jesus tell them it's ok. | |
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Posted: 10/30/2009 12:47:21 PM | | There are godly christian men who are adament about being pure, about treating a woman right. There are men who love God and who need a godly lady who believes as they do. Let's stop the male bashing and start to adore and honor them. If supposedly all christian men were terrible, then why would they want to do or be good to anyone here that bashes them. Why not just have sex outside of marriage? Why not just treat a woman like a piece of meat? You ladies are expecting it.......but you ALL need to STOP and cherish the men, pray for the men and be a godly woman to the men. They may want to live up to their call if seen as God does! | |
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Posted: 10/30/2009 1:27:02 PM |
There are godly christian men who are adament about being pure, about treating a woman right. There are men who love God and who need a godly lady who believes as they do. Let's stop the male bashing and start to adore and honor them. If supposedly all christian men were terrible, then why would they want to do or be good to anyone here that bashes them. Why not just have sex outside of marriage? Why not just treat a woman like a piece of meat? You ladies are expecting it.......but you ALL need to STOP and cherish the men, pray for the men and be a godly woman to the men. They may want to live up to their call if seen as God does!
I'm not prejudging anyone - I will wait and see if they "walk the walk". Nor am "leading them astray". There are good Christian loving men out there - they are usually still married. It's the ones that have been divorced and have a hateful attitude towards women I refuse to "adore and honor" - I refuse to have anything to do with them. I just don't want to take on all their garbage.
Ritikay - If you are willing to take a man into your life that hates women, is twice divorced, a drug user, and has 2 restraining orders against them but is a born again Christian and a church musician more power to ya. I will be happy to honor and adore a man than honors and adores me - whether he is a Christian or not. | |
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