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Posted: 10/10/2008 2:50:36 AM | Yep...that's why I'm starting this..
I've found a way to get through this financial crisis!
If you had purchased $1,000 of AIG stock one year ago, you would have $42 left.
With Lehman, you would have $6.60 left.
With Fannie or Freddie, you would have less than $5 left.
But if you had purchased $1,000 worth of beer one year ago, drank all of the beer, then turned in the cans for the aluminum recycling REFUND, you would have
had $214.
Based on the above, the best current investment advice is to drink heavily and
recycle.  | |
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Posted: 10/10/2008 7:11:59 AM | I got this email, too, and I did the math...$85 Billion divided by 200 million American adults works out to $425 each, not the $425,000 each as stated in the email...
Now AIG's is requesting another $37.5 Billion. Add that to the $810 Billion bailout and you're looking at exactly what's happening with the world markets as I write.
My question is: oil is at its lowest rate in over a year, but I'm still paying almost $4/gallon for gas. Go figure! 
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Posted: 10/10/2008 12:07:07 PM | Actually the reason the gas prices have'nt gone down is because, well, there was a good question proposed in one of Steven Seagal's movies...."How much is enough?".
Unfortunately this is all by design. The goal is mass genocide. It is in their own documents they plan to exterminate 80% of the worlds population and have since changed that to 90%.
Why do you think they talk about global warming and they will impliment carbon taxes etc etc. We are carbon produces. Everytime we exhale.
I know this is a very strong statement but is an unfortunate reality and things are moving at a hightened pace. It's looking real ugly out there. I just want you to know, I love you all. All my brothers & sisters. We need to pray more than ever right now and fight the system but be careful and know how much God does love us :) | |
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Posted: 10/10/2008 12:44:51 PM | ? My plan for Economic Recovery, That's yours...?
Reason Gas don't go down, is cause they are producing LESS GAS...They, oil country's don't want it to go down, they want to cut back producing, to keep prices HIGH...So while we use less, they produce less to keep gas HIGH..How many oil refineries now..was 300 or more in 1980's now about, 190..
So if you keep gas supply low, they can keep getting high prices.
For the rest...it will bottom out...don't run around like Chicken Little screaming the sky's falling, we were worse in the 1920's, will come back. | |
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Posted: 10/11/2008 4:15:37 AM | | You keep telling yourself that, but sooner or later we have to wake up from this denial. Congress was just threatened with Martial law if they did not sign the bail out bill. | |
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| My plan for Economic Recovery
Posted: 10/11/2008 6:30:34 AM | Space Varmit.. Part of what I found on it.
Physical Martial law may be invoked by the President of the United States in case of any deemed "state of emergency". Martial Law has not been put into practice since Lincoln, where several Congressmen were arrested or put under house arrest. In 1878, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids military involvement in domestic law enforcement without congressional approval. However, both the Military Commissions Act of 2006 and USNORTHCOM has increased its direct involvement with US civilian administration. Additionally, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, and President Bush's recent PD51 may possibly rescind previous limits by suspending Government as well as other Constitutional guarantees such as habeas corpus.
According to numerous Congressional testimonies, the stark panic atmosphere which has gripped both Congress and the US media was intentionally created in order to 'fast-track' a financial bailout bill. Several members of Congress were told before Monday's vote that martial law might be instigated in America if the legislation failed.
During his speaking time on Thurs, Congressman Sherman stated explicitly, "Many of us were told in private conversations, that if we didn't pass this bill on Monday, the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be Martial Law in America if we voted no(to the bail out bill)."
Earlier this week, Congressman Michael C. Burgess from the 26th District of Texas, went public on Monday stating live on Infowars nationwide radio broadcast, that House speaker Nancy Pelosi had declared House Rule 136A, effectively putting the House under "Martial Law" rules, a dictatorial measure only activated during times of national emergency.
Analysts and Congressmen alike have equated these threats to "fearmongering" and described as a form of "economic terrorism" carried out by powerful banking interests in order to secure the record $850 billion payout to the banks by the American people. | |
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| My plan for Economic Recovery
Posted: 10/13/2008 6:59:39 AM |
"Reason Gas don't go down, is cause they are producing LESS GAS...They, oil country's don't want it to go down, they want to cut back producing, to keep prices HIGH...So while we use less, they produce less to keep gas HIGH..How many oil refineries now..was 300 or more in 1980's now about, 190..
So if you keep gas supply low, they can keep getting high prices."
It was a rhetorical question, guys. I understand supply & demand... :) I'd just like to see the American people respond (sans the fighting at the gas pumps...) the way we did in the '70s when gas supplies went down and prices went up...we stopped driving as much, we bought cars that used less gas (still wish I had that '66 VW bug!) and we car-pooled. We were angry and felt we'd been rooked by the gas companies and the government, so we fought back. And we didn't even have Hummers and SUV's then! I know some people are taking responsibility for their own actions and are actually conserving energy and gas, but apparently those people are not getting much air time.
So, I'm voting for TNMAN for President! | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 1:19:50 AM | Hey TNman! Your OK! You did your home work and did notdraw back into denial but educated yourself rather quickly I might add. You are a very intelligent man. Yes, I heard the interview with Congressman Brad Sherman right when the bill was being passed. In fact you can download it here: http://www.thealexjonesshow.com/show/2008/october/031008sherman.html
The Military Commissions Act of 2006 puts a particularly bad taste in my mouth because it ended our right of habeas corpus (innocent until proven guilty)...for the sheeple...lol. I really do not want to be rude but that is just a common reference. Actually I have allot of faith in the American people and our way of life but I think they have to get past the fact that 9/11 was indeed an inside job before they will understand that their are rogue elements running our gov't.
What most don't undertand is that this so called "bail out" bill gave the bankers (Bilderbuger, Rothschild (Bower), Rockefeller etc. sweeping dictatorial powers over the state. It's in the bill.
I've been hammered on here years back for bringing serious issues etc. but dammit I care! And who really wants a bimbo anyway. I prefer a woman who atleast knows where she's at....lol | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 11:43:12 AM | You e-mailed..
I've been hammered on here years back for bringing serious issues etc. but dammit I care! And who really wants a bimbo anyway. I prefer a woman who atleast knows where she's at....lol
Sorry to hear that. For if a person is better informed they can make a better decision.
Like said, was shock when I found out about Martial Law.
As for the least part on women...can't speak for other men, but sure there is alot of Ladies out there, who hope when a man opens his mouth, he has something intelligent to say, than WHAT'S UP, GOOD LOOKING..
Anyways, wish I had a GREAT plan, it's not looking to good for taxpayers for a few years.
So vote for whoever you want, just remember VOTE. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 12:50:33 PM | OK OK very good. Wish Congressman Ron Paul was still running for president. I guess I'm considering one of 3:
1. Ralph Nader
2. Chuck Balwin
3. Cynthia McKenny.
I really like her :) She is a grest patriot. She knows full well about 9/11 too. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 4:47:15 PM | ^^^cynthia mckinney?! cynthia mckinney?! Are you serious?! That woman is a full-blown nut-job! I haven't read through all these posts, but you're not one of those far-out nut cases who thinks that the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by the Bush administration, are you? Oh boy, here we go...
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Posted: 10/14/2008 4:50:08 PM | Number 1 check your math 85 Billion divided into 200 Million hands would mean a $425 check not $425,ooo do the math if you don't believe me.
Number 2 Proper government intervention can cause the economy to recover very quickly. This has been historically proven.
Number 3 The root causes of this problem must be understood before you can give a good solution. The problem started with the government getting rid of the 30 year T Bill, which was a very important investment tool for pension and annuity funds. These funds are required to keep a certain percentage of low risk investments versus their riskier ones. Well if you pool 10,000 regular mortgages together the risk/return resembles the T Bill. This increased demand for mortgages along with the Clinton administration telling Fannie and Freddie to buy more subprime mortgage backed securities and the mortgages used to create them, which also increased demand for new mortgages, which resulted in a shortage of supply of mortgages. This high new demand for mortages caused banks and mortgage brokers to issue loans with more and more risk, because they knew once the loan was made it would be sold and they would no longer bear the excess risk. Once they realized that there was still an excees demand they began to issue more loans to people with no money down, they also created the option ARM and interest only loans to make the payments affordable to people who couldn't afford paying on the principle and interest (it aslo made it possible for people to end up owing more than the property is worth). The increased availability of credit led to an increase in demand which caused prices to go up. Once the option periods were over and the payments went up people began defaulting,either because they couldn't afford the payments (this is why we have credit ratings) or because they soon realized they owed more than the house is worth. Fewer payments were being made which caused companies that relied on this monthly income to make payments on their debts to have problems with making their payments to creditors. They still own the properties, but the problem is liquidity. Creditors expect cash payments and since they are receiving less cash from these investments each month, many companies are having to file for bankruptcy because they are unable to pay their debts because of the liquidity issues with these investments. Now the reason for the bailout is to restore investor confidence in the American financial system and to restore liquidity to credit markets which are very important for running day to day operations in a company. I will talk about two options, the first one is buying the properties from the companies. If the government buys the properties at a discount they can make money off of the properties and restore liquidity to the companies and credit markets, but the companies will take a huge loss (their punishment). The second option is to loan the money to companies, this will make the companies able to pay their debts. The punishment of this would be a higher interest rate than usual and having to hold the illiquid assets until they can be sold for a reasonable price (and not being able to use the money for other investments). | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 4:52:12 PM | Reason Gas don't go down, is cause they are producing LESS GAS...They, oil country's don't want it to go down, they want to cut back producing, to keep prices HIGH...So while we use less, they produce less to keep gas HIGH..How many oil refineries now..was 300 or more in 1980's now about, 190..
So if you keep gas supply low, they can keep getting high prices. - TNManalone
One thing you're forgetting TN, is that the pinko-commie liberal democRATS in this country haven't allowed an oil refinery to be built here since the '70s - makes it kinda hard for the oil companies to produce enough gasoline to meet the demands of a growing population.
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Posted: 10/14/2008 9:29:34 PM | Ahhh...lovely. We have some non-believers. As for the "bail out". This is nothing but a band aid. They will be back shortly for more. They are trying to repair the derivitives market which is unfixable. It is not based on any assets. In fact just the opposite. It is buyibng debt. Trust me. I give them about 20 more days before they pass another bail out.
What's really sad is that all this talk about mortgage bail outs is because China holds the mortgages to about 75% or more of your homes. Why do you think they hold so much of our debt and they will do anything to protect it. The gov't is working out a deal now where the Chinese military will be allowed to evict you. Believe me, as over crowded as China is, they are licking their chops over our land which really belongs to them. We have been sold down the river. Ever wonder how these Senators who only make a couple-a-few hundred thousand dollars a year got some much stuff? Bribes. They love bribe money. They get all that money just to vote yes or no on a bill.
Cynthia McKenny knows what's up. Just go look at all 3 buildings in New York that went down the day of 9/11. They all fell at precisely the speed of gravity. That is controlled demolition. In order to make a building implode and not disrupt the surrounding realestate a building must free fall meaning each floor must be removed as the debrea comes down. You've seen it done. It looked just like the old standium here in Atlanta. It was done exactly the same way.
Just consider WTC7 (the Soloman Bros Bldg). It was the 47 storie steel framed bldg that went down later that afternoon and did not even get hit by a plane. It did a perfectly symetrical free fall right into it's own footprint in 6.5 seconds. I'm sorry but fire cannot do that. Do you remember the Madrid tower? That thing burned for a about a week and still did not come down.
The evidence is overwhelming. I can give example after example but I would be typing for days. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 9:35:36 PM | | Better remember your God people. He never forgot you, but unfortunately in this country, many of us turned our backs on him and so he has removed his protective hand from us. Now is a real good time to pray. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2008 9:51:22 AM | Know this is OFF TOPIC... but got to ask...How many bulidings you know, get hit by Jet Planes, full of jet fuel..
he has removed his protective hand from us. Now is a real good time to pray.
Sorry on that to, has never removed anything..It's always there for the asking..Just ASK. | |
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Posted: 10/16/2008 7:00:23 AM | 3 Bldgs come down all at precisely free fall speed the same day. Only two were hit by planes. What are the odds?
How many times was NORAD doing drills for crashing crashing into building the same morning as it actually happened?
How many times has 19 Muslims living in caves with box cutters, deafeated the greatest military defense in the world? And how many times did 13 out of the 19 hijackers come back to life?
How many times does a Boeong 757 hit the Pentagon and leave no debrea. No wings, no fuselage, no nothing.
How many times does****Cheney tell NORAD to stand down when a plane is going to kill 3000 people?
How many times does Larry Silverstein (owner of the WTC complex) say the order was give to "Pull" Bldg #7 and they watched it come down?
Shall I go on?
It's much too late to still be in denial. | |
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Posted: 10/16/2008 9:16:06 PM | ^^^Hahahaha! Funny stuff, Space! I'd probably be really depressed if I thought there really were Americans who believed all that crap you wrote above, but I realize it's just a joke - it HAS to be - no one is that stupid. Good one, dude!
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Posted: 10/24/2008 3:45:20 AM | ^^^ If you are saying 9/11 wasn't what it was.... a terrorist attack...
Sorry... I'm not going to touch that one.
Okay... I'll touch this...
Ask ANY science teacher what happens when something that is powered by a LOT of fuel, hits something hard, touch and freestanding at how many hundreds of miles per hour...
obliteration.
It's the SAME principal of the bodies of people at the Twin Towers wreckage that were not found.
Let me repeat.... hundreds were NOT found! Pieces of bone, nada.
Why? Because they were OBLITERATED! Same principal.
I remember a report several days later.... the cadaver dogs were going nuts. Why??? Because they couldn't tell the difference between metal and blood.
Obliterated.
How long did that guy in North Carolina hide in the woods? A long long time and agents KNEW those woods. So yeah.... someone can hide in caves, etc... and God knows where else somewhere we aren't familiar with. And there are more of those rat b@stards than 20. The Taliban has been around a long time... and I know that monster is being hidden and taken care of by his supporters.
SO yeah, all that.... Taliban Terrorists. | |
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Posted: 10/24/2008 3:57:21 AM | Just a thought about posts. When somebody posts things like this.
It's really too bad you choose to remain ignorant. ^^^^^
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Posted: 10/24/2008 5:47:45 PM |
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Perhaps you do not understand the meaning of the word "ignorant".
I was not hurling insults or name calling. I was describing a state of mind. Deep down inside all of you know something is very very wrong in our country. For those who are brave enough to look at the facts, it is plain to see that all three of the buildings were controlled demolitions. All three fell at precisely the speed of gravity on the same day....again, what are the odds?
It is not only this country that will be involved. Some of the Asian markets are crashing as I speak. The American green back is and has been the standard currency around the world. Most nations use it as their reserve. The reason the price of oil has dropped recently is because the controllers are breaking the economy of the Muslim world. The reason they are doing this is because they, such as Iraq & Pakistan were planning to drop the US green back as an acceptable currency for oil. In fact Sadom Husane was getting ready to do that very thing and that is why we attacked Iraq. There were no WMDs.
We are heading for tough economic times. The supposed bail out is admittledly being held in bank accounts to accomplish two things. One to remove the cash fluidity from the US market place and when the smaller banking institutions go under and realestate becomes cheaper, the controllers plan to buy up everything for pennies on the dollar.
We are being run by a one world gov't as well as the rest of the world. Their major source of income has been the Federal Reserve which is not part of the Federal gov't. It is a private institution that collects taxes (usery) from us and loans it to the gov't with interest. If you are not sure of what I speak, you need to get a copy of "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin. It will give you a very good understanding of the shadow gov't and how it operates.
Remember.....Satan took Jesus to a high mountain and showed him the kingdoms of the world and offered them to the lord. He cannot do that if they don't belong to him. The lord declined. | |
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Posted: 10/24/2008 6:52:53 PM | ^^^LOL! Of course we all see that there are lots of things wrong in this country - duh! That's a far cry from saying that the Bush administration carried out the attacks on the WTC, Pentagon, etc. To say that, is to not only impugn the President and his administration (that's fine, it's political), but to also impugn the integrity of the U.S. military. For the Bush admin. to conduct such an attack as 9/11, the U.S. military would have had to carry it out. SpaceVarmint, are you really wanting to go on the record as saying that the U.S. military deliberately attacked and killed thousands of Americans, right here on American soil? Not only that, but in the 7 years since that attack, NOT ONE conspirator has come forward to spill the beans? There would have had to have been literally hundreds of co-conspirators involved, both civilian and military, and NO ONE has confessed or bragged about it? You kiddin' me?
I'm guessing you probably also think that we never really landed on the moon, right? Or that you believe that the earth is really flat?
Really dude, get some rest, quit taking all those pills, and chill out a little...
Tony | |
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