I think you can relax on that claim. I am only vaguely familiar with her work and had no opinion on her - until I read that she is married (according to Wiki) to someone who worked for the Clinton's, which devalues anything she could ever say.

Description of Genetic Fallacy

A Genetic Fallacy is a line of "reasoning" in which a perceived defect in the origin of a claim or thing is taken to be evidence that discredits the claim or thing itself. It is also a line of reasoning in which the origin of a claim or thing is taken to be evidence for the claim or thing. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

1. The origin of a claim or thing is presented.
2. The claim is true(or false) or the thing is supported (or discredited).

So, as long as we're into philosophy, let me try a type of short hand summary, might be fun for discussion.

!= means not equal
== means equal

army brigade == good people to have around?

US Soldiers are GOOD.

You have to have ethics and skill to be a US soldier

army brigade == good people to have around?
leftists == bad people to have around?
leftists == foolish people controlled by criminal types?
leftists == inhabited by dishonest intellectuals?
Acorn == controlled by leftists?
Acorn == corrupt front for Obama and election fraud?
Acorn supporters == gullible saps, deluded philosophers, criminal types.
Acorn organizers == stoking flames of racism and class hatred for personal gain?
Acorn organizers == eroding gains of civil rights movements for selfish political gain?
Acorn != any solutions to problems?

Democrats were active undercutting our troops (always, but even more so recently), so I suspected praise for military would be very foreign words to their ears. It makes me wonder what country the Democrats are a part of, because the anti-US reactions are now almost instinctive.

As a proud relative of some who are serving/have served this country in the military, I take exception to your ugly words. While I am anti-President Bush, I most certainly am not anti-America, or anti-military.

Quite a chip you got on your shoulder there harliegal. By the way, I think motorcycles are useless toys for non athletic people. Most the people I have met that ride them are way out of shape and not all that bright. But I digress...

In a way, you cant resist it can you? The truth stabs you and blurt out your attitudes. I know a little about the military and I know they're human, and you raise a good point about returning to the US for just plain normal troop moments.

But there is another point here which has reared its ugly head. Its people's attitudes of entitlement, including entitlement to disrespecting and belittling the people making sacrifices for the nation. Anyone willing to sacrifice their life for me can do no wrong. In WW1, a man made a critical statement about the war and the president and was beaten to death, with tacit approval of the courts. Well, cant say I blame them. Anti US in the time of war is the same as being a traitor.

Really, did you react with the same anger when people were running down the military here? I dont think ya did. How about when the dems were hoping for deaths and defeat of US soldiers, did that bother you? How proud would you active duty relation be of you for not being offended by that lapse of judgment? Do they still talk to you? Just in case you want to win them back, tell them you are anti-Democrat, not anti-Bush, that will tell them you care.

Otherwise, I suspect I hit the nail on the head with my post. And watch your language, ugly is not a appropriate word, although I imagine the truth hurts.

BTW, I am pretty sure being anti-Bush is illegal, called sedition, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just dont agree with his leadership. Well that makes 2 of us. I'm not thrilled either, but since I am a good citizen I support the countries effort, and when I speak, you can definitely tell I am not parroting the words of Bin Laden. THere was a twilight zone moment where the jihadists had gotten a hold of democratic talking point and were finding it a better source of propaganda than their own methods. Really, how long will this nation last with that kind of cancer in its leadership and citizenship?

Lets see, coup, yah, thats where I started this discussion. Not so unbelievable when you read this thread.

BTW, I am pretty sure being anti-Bush is illegal, called sedition,

So sorry the fear mongering days will soon be over.

I explained to a gal at work yesterday about why all this stuff about Obama can't be true. I told her all the stuff we all know, that if he was pals with terrorist, was a socialist, that no one had seen his birth certificate so it's unknown where he was born, that he'd never be able to get a clearance, and he will have the highest clearance possible.

Even more fun that Obama is anti-gun and thousands of soldiers are coming to the US soon....

Take the guns and put the soldiers to work rousting Joe Citizen...Enjoy the Obamanation!

FactCheck.org
Obama (June 26): I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures. The Supreme Court has now endorsed that view, and while it ruled that the D.C. gun ban went too far, Justice Scalia himself acknowledged that this right is not absolute and subject to reasonable regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe. Today’s ruling, the first clear statement on this issue in 127 years, will provide much-needed guidance to local jurisdictions across the country.


As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen. I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole and improving our background check system, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals. Today’s decision reinforces that if we act responsibly, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe.

Will He or Won't He?

At a campaign stop in Duryea, Pa., in early September, Obama again attempted to reassure gun owners that he doesn't intend to take away their guns, and couldn't even if he wanted to:

Obama (Sept. 5): The bottom line is this. If you’ve got a rifle, you’ve got a shotgun, you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it away. Alright? So they can keep on talking about it but this is just not true. And by the way, here’s another thing you’ve got to understand. Even if I wanted to take it away, I couldn’t get it done. I don’t have the votes in Congress.

Hey all I'm planning on going to the Columbus State House on Sunday to see the up and coming president and first lady. I'm going to drive by there later today and scope it out.

Joe Biden knows why.

Trust me Jed, when you (and everyone else) loose your jobs because all the money departs the markets for places that are not not run by a corrupt, communist, anti-American president and equally corrupt congress, you wont give a rat's butt about the finer details of sedition and treason.