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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 8:18:06 AM | I have a solution to the economy......quit pouring billions of our dollars into 'aiding' other countries that hate our guts, anyway.....
Israel may be our 'only' Middle East ally, but how much have they really helped US?
Our support of Israel has led to more bad feeling, than good......
Has anyone seen the movie 'Dave'? We need to have REAL CPA's in government......so that the Pentagon isn't spending 3 times as much on items that could be made or purchased cheaper.....so much waste, at so many levels......they need to start at the grass roots and get some Preen.....
Kwame has certainly shown us how millions of dollars of our money could be just 'thrown' away......pfffft! | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 10:05:36 AM | A little information on the Federal budget. In 2008 the Budget expenditures were $2.9 trillion dollars, of which $1.788 trillion is mandated by law - Social Security, Medicare, Interest on National debt ($261 billion) - leaving $1.114 trillion that is discretionary spending of which $654 billion is Security Spending (Defense, Global war on Terror, Homeland Security, etc.). That leaves $460 billion for Education, Veterans Administration, Health and Human Service, etc. The deficit was $455 billion, almost equal to all non-Security discretionary spending.
Foreign aid was $21 billion of the $$460 billion (discretionary spending that is non-Security), it contains aid to Israel (largest recipient of foreign AID), HIV/AIDs programs in Africa, and payments to countries for their support in Global War on Terror - to name a few.
Let's say we eliminate Foreign Aid, where is the remaining $439 billion to be found? I agree we need to reduce wasteful spending, and spending on programs that do not work, or are no longer relevant. But it’s not going to fix the problem; it’s not even going to make much of a dent. We need to address Social Security, Medical Costs, and Defense spending. Without tackling those budget items we will continue to burden our children with a huge tax bill. Unless every dollar of tax cuts are offset by a dollar in spending, we are just adding to our children’s tax bill…there is no free lunch.
An interesting side note on wasteful spending is that it is being done by US employees...how come they never object to it, it's their tax dollars too. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 10:10:58 AM | Well in general these figures and many others put out by the government means nothing. Much of spending is completely ignored. For example the Iraq war doesn't figure into any of these amounts. Another is the aid package but if you can blow 750 billion on the banks, i think 439 billion is a small price to pay for main street.
Don't you agree? That's like 1/2 the bailout for banks. Don't we deserve it? | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 12:36:20 PM | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2075972/posts
" Let me get this right. So, the 98 members of the Unites States Senate voted unanimous 98-0 in favor of allowing these babies survive and helping them survive and, in the State Senate in Illinois, Barack Obama voted against that exact same language."
Pretty disgusting who many of you have decided to choose as our next President. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 12:42:06 PM | | "The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government." - Thomas Jefferson | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 12:46:16 PM | http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=0xkT_W5l9-k&feature=related
Good description of just what this "savior" of yours is really all about. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 1:36:57 PM | let me guess you love Palin's position and are a total pro lifer......
that was a hard one.
at this point it's not possible to persuade people from these things. i would just hate to see women suffer because they use a hanger or a back alley guy. it used to happen before and has throughout the history of man.
i would imagine you are even anti day after pill when the embryo is but one or two cells, like when you shave you are more likely to kill more cells.
so whats the best alternative? | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 1:42:36 PM |
let me guess...
speculate all you want. Fact is, a late term abortion where the child is born alive during the abortion is allowed to die all wrapped up in a towel on the counter. Now take that image and think about your words/reply carefully.
To me, since the abortion did not go as planned, and that child was born alive, it should NOT be thrown out like the garbage.
Spin that image any way you wish. To me, there is nothing more ugly in the entire world. I am not able to even think of anything more horrible/tragic. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 1:47:04 PM |
i would just hate to see women suffer because they use a hanger or a back alley guy
Just an FYI, being against "late term abortion" doesn't imply anything at all that deals with your reply. No hanger's/back alley's/nothing. So, let's be clear here. A woman who get's an abortion and the child is born alive, instead of dead like "some", would allow that child to be wrapped up in a towel and set on a counter somewhere. The child then dies from neglect.
Are we clear now? Now isn't that just a cuddly cute image for you? I hope you are happy with your morals, because I sure as heck wouldn't want them. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 4:34:03 PM | | Psssttt...I think you two aren't understanding each other here. Tony's not saying late term abortions where babies are born alive and set on a counter to die is ok. I think he's saying abortion is ok when done right and early. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 4:44:18 PM | jakked......be careful here.....it is a woman's right to be 'pro-choice......after all, who is virtually 'stuck' with the infant she bears from some man, under whatever cicumstances, from day one?
Women are lucky if they can even COLLECT child support from the father, who usually feels he has been 'taken for a ride'........
I was an adopted infant, and glad to have had loving adopted parents. But I would rather be dead than have been born into a family that didn't really want me.
Anti-abortion people have to be careful. Besides crusading to have the child be 'born', rather than aborted.....what role do THEY play in the life that they insisted should be created? As long as the child is born.....that is all they care about......what happens to the child afterwards......geez, I don't hear much about their 'crusading' after that..... | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 4:51:38 PM |
Israel may be our 'only' Middle East ally
 precisely why women don't belong in politics...ally, as in on our side...we have military bases there, duh...you were a little young for the vietnam war to really affect you, unless you had a relative that didn't make it back linda...there has been war since the beginning of time, and believe me the women knew their place in it, i.e. support, food, keeping down the homebase, WWII, working in the factories inabling weapon and machinery production...yep, the key word was "only"...when there is only "one" of anything in our world it is special, rarity, significant | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 5:01:33 PM | | Please tell me you're kidding right? Women? The best organizers, money savers bargain shoppers, peace keepers ....don't belong where? | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 5:09:16 PM | Kat..
Woman "knew their place". Explain please.
PS..
Let's not forget the woman who knew their place on the war front who have died.
Jakked..
As far as pro-life or pro-choice, it's easy for you to talk about something you will never experience, that being pregnancy and making the choice to keep or not keep the child. I don't believe anyone who is pro-choice is pro-a-child-suffering. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 6:12:47 PM | and where are you when doing your best gf?....organize, of course, men don't even care if their towels match...money savers, women spend their money and the man's too, agreed that they can make do with less, but then they don't have to pay for dates, child support, alimony and usually a wife and kids if they're young...bargain shoppers, you know it...i save between 30 and 100 dollars a month on groceries in a month clipping coupons, can make a 5 course delicious meal for 4 people on 15 bucks, etc....women employ so many cost cutters it would take pages to mention...peace keepers, always...if my grown adult children get a bug up their butt about one of their siblings, i can turn those negative feelings around on a dime, as most moms can...not trying to be a know it all...god made women with soft hearts and tender souls, sure we're strong, frugal, ingenuous, and organized...that's what makes us so special...women don't belong in a presidential, governor, or congress appointment...it takes a ruthlessness that i prefer to think most women don't possess...director of social services, principals of not only schools but juvenile detention facilities, co-ordinators of kids with mental and physical disabilities in any capacity...women rule and guys drool...just sayin to make things right, we all just need to take our place in life and be sooooo happy with it  | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 6:24:05 PM | I guess this is one we'll have to agree to completely disagree. Take my place in life???? Along side my man...willingly, always, by his side...but out in the world I have a whole lot more to offer then gentleness and a soft heart!
I am woman by God, hear me roar. Being a female isn't going to ever hold me back or stop me from anything! I am proud to stand up and be counted as someone who can make a difference!
"Coordinator of kids with mental and physical disabilities in any capacity"???
Who do you think God gave these kids to? I'm single and taking care of all this kid's special needs, I only WISH my job was as gravy as the coordinator's! | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 6:30:13 PM |
it takes a ruthlessness that i prefer to think most women don't possess...
I do and I believe many woman do too. Would you stand by and let someone hurt your children? Your family? Your friends and neighbors?
As for me....I'd do anything and everything necessary to defend and protect my children, my family, my friends, my neighbors and my Country. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/2/2008 7:22:47 PM | robin and mystic, you little "girls" you, big hugs....that's right what i was saying, we are the commanders of life literaly...but men command how life goes as far as global disputes..let them do their thing is all i think...oh my i never say things right do i? | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/3/2008 3:41:31 AM | Personally, I think the men have made a mess of things. All men in power should step down and let US take over.
Women would be very leery of each other as world powers. You would never know when another world leader was OTR. Watch out. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/3/2008 7:08:16 AM |
it is a woman's right to be 'pro-choice
I'm not disputing that at all. What I am disputing is the fact that Obama suggest's to have a person hold the baby till dead from neglect. What???? That's the best he can do? Anyone want that job? I watched one person die from neglect, and that was enough for me. You will have a mental breakdown in a very short time, guaranteed.
A better suggestion would be to toss the baby into a woods filled with wild dogs. At least the wild dogs would nurture this baby into a healthy being.
Since when did the women of this world become so cold, that the life of a baby is not of the highest priority in there lives? I always had the assumption that men will fight and die for the protection of there loved ones. I always assumed that women would gladly give there own lives if it meant that there baby would have a better chance at life. When did we all become "it's all about me" and no longer place our babies and loved ones above our own pathetic existence?
Surely I understand that there are circumstances where a baby must be aborted. I'm not stupid. But when that baby is born alive and healthy, why is there no nurturing for that child and that child be allowed to be adopted? There are people that would KILL for a chance to have a healthy baby given to them. Now what the heck is wrong with that? Tell me!!! Is that such a darn hard thing to do? Give the baby to someone who gives a crap about him/her. But at the very least, toss the baby into the woods and let the dogs nurture him/her. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/3/2008 8:16:56 AM | Get you Black pencils READY or markers.
Tomorrow is the BIG DAY.
Whoever takes this, Has a Lot to do and it won't be done overnight,
God --did this get way off topic,
Politics,, always a HOT TOPIC,,
Anyway,
Good luck to all. Hope you all make it to the Polls.
Can't complain if you don't vote!
Change is well needed, and I am going for Change.
Take care
ZE Damsel in ZE Dress
Jeanette
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/3/2008 9:05:18 AM | ^^^^^ agree! Let's all do our part and get out and Vote tomorrow, if you haven't already done so via absentee ballot.
Personally, I think the men have made a mess of things.
I would add 'white christian' to the 'men' part.
jakedup
We get it, you are against late term abortion, and see all the world through this one issue. How about creating your own thread on it and move the discussion to it, it's getting old here. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/3/2008 9:57:10 AM |
We get it, you are against late term abortion, and see all the world through this one issue
Sorry, but that's not the case. It's only I place morality above "change" and/or money. Funny thing is, you don't even know what your savior is changing.
The topic was politics and this issue is a part of that. I'm amazed though, that not one single woman has spoken up, and declared her belief that a baby is a precious thing. Not something to be allowed to die from neglect. Well, it's been a real eye opener for me. I see now, that there are many many other things more important than a newborn. Excuse me all to heck that I brought the subject up in a discussion that apparently should have been allowed to be one sided. | |
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| Take THAT Michigan!! Love , John McCain
Posted: 11/3/2008 10:20:21 AM |
I would add 'white christian' to the 'men' part.
That's about as racist of a remark possible. So you are saying that all the blacks in the government did it all right? Ever hear of Kilpatrick? I think he was the mayor of Detroit wasn't he? He's now enjoying the hospitality of our justice system behind bars.
I can just imagine the outrage if someone was to say "Well I would replace "men" with "black muslim men/women"". No matter, it's ok to be a racist, as long as it's white's you hate, escpecially white christian men.
Rev. Wright does it again. The US of KKK and not God Bless America, it's God Damn America. | |
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