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Posted: 10/4/2008 11:33:20 AM | re:ahoytheredave
Not originally from Florida, rather New York. I earned my graduate degree in Florida.I felt the same way about the votership in Florida, during the 2000 and 2004 elections. It was upsetting to say the least. My vote was cast in NY.
Bush was Ivy league "accepted", not educated. As for his military record (which I think is a loose interpretation), I won't argue against anyone who gives service to their country. My brother served in the Air Force, during Desert Storm, admirably. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 1:55:23 PM | There ya go again friends4nOw, attacking the president using opinions. You can not argue that President Bush graduated from an Ivy league school. and you cannot argue that he served in the military. Your opinion about his education is an opinion. But, then others could say your not educated, only Florida accepted. lol.
I just watched a video of Senator Biden demanding that we go to Iraq and disarm Saddam Hussien. If any one wants to see it, just drop me an email. Would put it on here but would be accused of trolling. lol. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 3:06:15 PM | re:sstratdigger
"There ya go again", Palinisms....nice!
It is my opinion and I never represented my statements as anything but. I was accepted due to my G.P.A and admissions exams, not due to familial ties with politicians.In addition, I had a higher GPA than said president. I don't know many "C" average students at Yale or Harvard. But an average student, went on to become a "below average" president, with increasingly below average results.
I'm not attacking the man. I am critical of the qualifications of the man and his job performance, as well as his policy positions. I have quite a few friends who remind me of G.W.B and I wouldn't vote for any of them to run a lemonade stand. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 3:23:46 PM | Well, I was just hoping we could keep this civilized. (By the way, it wasn't a Palinism, it was a Reaganism). Having said that, anyone can do opinions. You are correct. For instance, most folks would think a C average at an Ivy league school would far outweigh any grade at an easy Florida school. (just so you know, I don't think the schools in Florida are easy, but you see how ridiculous my statement sounds) As did yours. lol. And lastly, just to remind you, since your education didn't teach you about attention spans (just joking) lol. President Bush is not running for office and this forum is not about him. So, get some meds for that ADD ( just joking again). Ha Ha Ha. Your right it is kinda fun to sit here and make stuff up. Time for me to be a grown up again. Please, lets keep to topic, and let us hear some facts. Not opinions.  | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 3:31:24 PM | I know you were joking, I can sense some real comedic talent emanating from your post. ;-)
To speak to your point, most C average students, would hardly be accepted to any Ivy. He was....wonder why?
Reagan had substance to his arguments, he didn't compensate for a lack of political talent, by attempting to be "cute". McCain is a direct extension of Bush policies, they are both are intrinsically linked. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 3:38:52 PM | | If no one can convince you differently, then so be it. But most folks who follow politics would say that Senator McCain has been a thorn in not only President Bush, but all conservatives sides. Other than keeping taxes low and defeating terrorist (which they disagree in how to defeat them) they are pretty much different in every way. I do understand the democratic desire to link them though. But, and I repeat this again. Let's please talk about the debate, or Senator Obama, McCain, Biden, or Governor Palin. Something that is in the present, not the past. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 3:48:26 PM | Normal Calculation:Voting 95% of the time with the incumbent president=intrinsically linked.
Conservative Calculation: Voting 95% of the time with the incumbent president=Maverick lol. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 5:38:09 PM | Uh, the President does not vote on bills. The congress and house does. The president has only vetoed one bill (perhaps two) while in office. Therefore he has signed just about every bill that has come to his desk. Therefore everyone in congress and the house has been on the side of the president in just about everything as far as bills go. So if you are saying they agreed on a bill that the president signed, then everyone has. You are making no sense. think about what you write before you write it and don't just spout off something that you've heard someone else say. I tried to be polite to you and keep you on subject, but you can't seem to do that. PRESIDENT BUSH IS NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE! lol. Did they teach you anything in Florida?  | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 5:55:02 PM | I was taught that those who argue generalities without specifics are known as "Palinists".
By the way, I will play this game you, since I am aware of all of the bills that the President vetoed.
1)Name the bills that the president vetoed?
2)Since you also have insight into a how a bill is passed, please state how many democratically sponsored bills that the Republican leadership filibustered, as result effectively leaving those bills to die on the floor.
I will play this game with you. Respond to both questions.....with specifics!
Not "Palanisms". :-)
P.S. You have 10 minutes, that will give you enough time to get on wikipedia, actually 8 minutes left now....5 minutes...out of time. Thanks for playing. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 6:07:15 PM | | So, you still don't want to talk about the debate. It's ok. Just go watch the video on my profile and come back and defend Senator Biden. What do they call the sandals folks wear to the beach? hmmmm . . .OH YEAH! FLIP FLOPS! You see, you need to learn politics. When someone continually tries to change the subject (such as yourself) it means they cannot defend their position. But, come now, let's not argue. Let's be friends. It doesn't really matter who wins the election. Whether they do well, or whether they screw up, the American people will overcome. We are both Americans. We the people . . . not . . .they the government. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 6:11:07 PM | | Smiley face responses, wonderful debating tactic taught at the P.S.A (Palin School of the Arts). I would have at least preferred the response "oh heck shucky ducky there ya go again". :-) | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 6:36:16 PM | | This is getting old. Can you go follow someone else around. I believe it is getting to the point of harrassment. Anyway. I will support your candidate if he wins. Good luck. Doesn't Florida play LSU this year? I am a bayou bengal myself. Suppose we go to the sports forums and discuss the SEC. One poll has the tigers a 2. Maybe they will pull it off again. See you in the sports section. Bye for now | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 6:44:08 PM | | We are all posting in political forums, please refrain from using the word harassment, when in fact we all post on "common" threads. Besides I hardly know where you post, other than when I see something wacky (joking). I actually follow college basketball more so than football....UNC Tarheels! | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 6:46:33 PM |  I think you ^^ are amazingly talented at refocusing the forum topic! Ha ... but going for the sports ... that is brilliant ... even for you!
Video was interesting ... thanks for posting it! | |
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Posted: 10/4/2008 10:30:06 PM | Considering the thread, shouldn't we be discussing snowmobile racing instead of football and basketball?
McCain is a direct extension of Bush policies
Obama is a direct extension of Carter's policies.
Actually, McCain has disagreed with his party a number of time and the data is more like 90% but then again, you know about Bush exercising fewer vetoes than any president in modern times. As I understand, Obama, the most liberal Senator, agreed with Bush over 60% of the time. For the last two years, the Democrats have had control of the legislature. The complaint of Republican filibuster are meaningless as those that held were ideological, not serious issues of government. The serious issues were pretty much all overridden. Check the detail of your facts.
Actually Obama's policy on the middle east closely resembles Bush's policy before 9/11. It was this policy following Clinton's cowardly response (million dollar cruise missiles at empty mud huts in Afghanistan) that helped embolden Osama to launch the 9/11 attack. As for the "lies" about Iraq, it was Saddam testing US resolve under Clinton one by one breaking the points of the cease fire agreement to end the first war. Part of that bravado was the appearance of restarting his WMD programs to intimidate his neighbors and find sympathy in intimidation and threatening of Israel.
Actually, our troops were initially welcomed when Saddam was overthrown. The problems started when Brenner was put in charge and made the decisions to disband the entire Iraq military and civilian governing structure. This was against the advice of and surprise to Powell and Rice. Rumsfeld should have fired him or Bush should have fired both. Just like Bush remained loyal too long to Brown over FEMA, Bush tends to favor loyalty. All the top American military command in Iraq quit and Iraq imploded.
For one more actually, I got higher grades than Einstein. That includes from one of my college physics professors who had studied under one of the professors who had flunked Einstein. The class I took was about Einstein's work. The irony does not escape me. Would you like to discuss aspects of our technological world far beyond you Peter principal limits? Biden was ranked 76th out of 85 law students in his law school graduation using student deferment to avoid serving in Vietnam. In his various campaign speeches, this record changes a lot including all sorts of accolades that are blatantly false. Biden was also suspect of plagiarizing college papers.
Palin speaks directly to a very large part of the population where so many politicians talk over them. Lawyers like Obama and Biden do that as a way of life. (insert lawyer jokes here). You can make fun of her direct communication only at risk of making yourself look foolish. She is the most popular governor in the country. Congressional approval overall is far lower than Bush. The mainstream media, with ratings slightly above congress, that grills Palin on so called lack of experience does not ask the same of Obama. In reality, she has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2008 12:23:59 PM | The key here is "qualifying" experience.Experience can be overrated. Experience in what exactly? Not being able to respond, with respect to the incumbent parties own policy positions? Palin is operating above her pay-grade.
Palin attempting to broker a mid-east peace deal:
Palin: Oh shucks well ya know you guys and everything with ya testosterone over there, with 6 pack joe and yikkety splits and ya know again it's all about health care reform and stuff there.
World Leader: what the ????
Palin: Oh there ya go again doggonit with wanting real answers ya know and dippy dippy do da ya know.
World Leader: Ok we give up! Guys let's just agree to have peace because this woman is driving me crazy!
Palin: Oh well ya know...there ya go 6 pack joes with hockiness tactics and elitists elitism and stuff.
P.S. I'm kidding, don't mess with Texas. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2008 12:49:02 PM | Are you really this pathetic as a human being? I wish you had the ability to talk about issues. Anyway, just trying to cheer you up my friend.
p.s. You truly are not making an education from Florida look good.
p.s.s. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2008 1:00:34 PM | :-)
It's Sunday, instead of responding to me, shouldn't you be relaxing and reading a book....with plenty of pop-up pictures and pretty colors. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2008 2:44:49 PM | Hmmmmmmmm, okay guys....now you are hitting below the belt!!! Don't make this "hockey mom" wake up "Joe 6-pack" to get his gun and shoot your arses!!!!
Play nice, now!!!
Sandee Palin!!! | |
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Posted: 10/5/2008 2:54:55 PM | Yeh but he started it Miss Sandee! :-)
Look I was just playing with my last post and again I meant him no disrespect.
P.S. Don't mess with Texas | |
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Posted: 10/5/2008 3:04:57 PM | Yes . I was starting no trouble. It's just that he was making fun of Palinisms. So, I started to do Obamaisms. I would say I'm done with politics, then come back, then say I'm done with politics, then come back. I figured with him being a true Senator Obama supporter, that he wouldn't notice when words and actions don't match. lol. And sure enough, he never got it. But, seriously, (and on this I am serious) I like the guy. He banters back and forth and does not get angry. So, Sandee, I take my scolding, and will play fair from now on.   | |
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Posted: 10/5/2008 3:36:07 PM | 4nOw, a friend of mine from where you were born sent me a frantic email. She said,
"Sarah Palin is withholding information. She's building a pipeline through Canada and didn't inform her connstituents!!"
In her eyes this was a serious, almost criminal offense and cemented her decision not to vote McCain Palin.
Care to comment?
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Posted: 10/5/2008 3:53:03 PM | lol where do you think/assume I was born? :-)
Pearl, I have heard those very same rumors. However, I cannot comment intelligibly on rumors or innuendo. In all fairness to the McCain/Palin supporters, I believe it's important to focus on what we know about the candidates positions, rather than addressing the rumor mill, such as the wide spread internet campaign designed to smear Obama and question his patriotism.I won't condemn Palin on hearsay. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2008 4:19:17 PM | I'm amused at the number of people who seem to get their political knowledge from forwarded emails.
Okay now: I'm a librarian....don't make me SHUSH your arse!!!
Sandee~ | |
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Posted: 10/5/2008 4:19:29 PM | "Sarah Palin is withholding information. She's building a pipeline through Canada and didn't inform her connstituents!!"
I just wasted cellphone minutes and called 1411. I asked for any number in Alaska, didn't matter who or where. A lady answered and the phone and was glad to reassure me that everyone in Alaska knows about the pipeline and was greatful to Governor Palin as she got the ball rolling on the project after it's been gathering dust for over 30 years. Also, anyone who watched the debate the other night would be aware of the pipeline as the governor spoke of it in the debate.
I also agree with the above poster. We have an abundance of info about both candidates, and it is enough to sort through that. | |
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