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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/24/2008 3:08:39 PM | Opie
Your right,, but for some, the only thing that matters is them,,
I remember the first time I went down on a girl/ now woman..I wasn't sure about the scent, I thought what is that pink, it looked gross.. i stuck out my tongue, wouldn't even let my lips touch her,, (Yes I was bad, I had no clue) what I remember the most was a little moan,, I thought that was cool,, next thing you know my lips were kissing her,, she started to smell real good, and soon I was in wonder land,, never looked back, and said this is for me,, It's wasn't because I liked it at first,, but rather she did ,, that turned me on,, and still does...........
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/24/2008 3:46:14 PM | Ok I could not resist I love to give bj with the right person it is a huge turn on but must say i agree with the other guy what good is it for the guy to cum and me be turned on? It is pointless really. For me it is the texture and yes must say taste. But I would rather get them to the edge and continue with other ideas.
The main thing here is that everyone is different. I have a wonderful friend who does not go down on his wife never has and never will. For him it is an issue he can not get passed so I believe it is each persons own thoughts or pleasures
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/24/2008 3:52:04 PM |
I hardly compare buying gifts to eating cum.
I'm not comparing the act, I'm comparing the sentiment. You know darned well that if you were married and your husband got you nothing for your anniversary because he hated the thought of spending the money, you'd have a cow.
Here's a little something about being repulsed by your "loved one's  " bodily fluids. My ex-wife had a c-section with both our kids (cervix wouldn't dilate fully) and later a breast reduction. Guess who had to take care of her in the hospital and when she came home. Had to empty her catheter bag, change her bloody gauzes, clean and redress the wounds, etc. Did I act childish and shun her because the thought of having anything to do with her bodily fluids repulsed me? Nope. I was not even phased one iota. Why? Because she was my wife, and I loved her and everything that was a part of her. Not once did I go, "Ewww! Gross!" To even have such a thought about anything concerning a person I have a committed relationship with is just incomprehensible to me, and I feel that people who are that way are just plain selfish/self-centered.
Mind you, I can understand your aversion to swallowing cum due to a texture/taste thing, but to call it repulsive is just plain childish, IMO. Have you ever even had it in your mouth? Have you ever given a BJ for that matter? | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/24/2008 3:59:24 PM | And the debate goes on. You'd think were discussing world politics. It's simple, pleasure, giving and recieving it, is in the eye of the beholder. Yes you can have perfectly satisfactory orgasms without oral, you don't have to swallow to give your lover the ultimate pleasure. You can spit and he's still satisfied. I've heard rumors that there people of either sex who don't like oral, whatever trips your trigger. The whole point is mutual pleasure, giving and recieving.
You're not a prude if you don't make oral a part of your sexual experiences, and you're not a whore if you do. The trick is to leave each other feeling satisfied, limp and happy. So everyone just do what makes you comfortable, we swallowers will stay on our side of the fence and you non swallowers, non oral fans can stay on you're side of the fence. That way we can all have a peaceful coexistance.
Chao Peace and Love to all Kissme1973
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bob026
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/24/2008 5:21:40 PM | | amen take a chillpill,,,,i dont go down on women for half an hour or so because it tastes great,its less filling!!! im only jk, but really i do it to see the delight on my womans face and one more thing, the same rule applys to women, some just taste and smell better than others... i do it for them 1st and myself 2nd | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/24/2008 6:20:19 PM | its not going to kill you or even hurt you.
In some cases it does. There was a woman who ate the man's cum and he had some disease and she had disease all in her stomach , throat and everywhere. Doctors were having a hard time trying to cure her. I never heard if she died or not. But she was hospital bound and very very sick. Thats the scary part. You dont know if they are sick and if they know they are not gonna tell the woman becuase they are selfish and want their thing sucked.
I find it bizarre and little childish that some people liken it to eating shit or vomit
To some of us its about the same thing. Its jsut as nasty to some of us.
I however , find it childish and bizarre that you in an earlier post mentioned compromise. well in ur eyes to comprimise meant her saying no and him saying do it anyway like it or not. Thats not a compromise.
As far as the anniversary thing. I have never ever celebrated an anniversary and i was married 16 yr to last hubby. So no I would not care jsut to answer your question.
as far as calling you an idiot for putting your sexual desires on same level as hers
no im calling you an idiot becuase you DONT put your sexual desires on same level as hers. What you have said is that YOU want it so she better do it ..no matter how it sickens her out. You are very selfish. If she wants to do it thats lovely but if she dont you dont have the right to tell her to do it anyway becuase YOU want it done. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/24/2008 6:27:57 PM |
I however , find it childish and bizarre that you in an earlier post mentioned compromise. well in ur eyes to comprimise meant her saying no and him saying do it anyway like it or not. That's not a compromise.
Compromise might be sucking on you guy,, and just before he cums,, finish with your hands, maybe try dipping your little finger and grabbing a taste, seeing your married I doubt your going to die,, or even loose your cookies..
Compromise is doing for your partner, not what he or she can do for you... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/24/2008 7:01:05 PM | I just realized there are 2 threads on similar topics, not sure I said what in which & in no mood to go sort it out ...
my last post here I was off topic, in that I was not saying....why I won't, but, why I will..
kit makes it clear why she won't, however in a thread she started, she admitted she cannot get off with her new hubby of a few months without toys and he was opposed to toys (evidentally they didn't bother sorting this out before marriage) She got posters to help her convince him that this ok and they went toy shopping.
If he said, "Hey honey, I can't get off with you, perhaps a lil oral action might help" would she be ok with trying? Doubtful...
In yet another thread about what this year brought you, she said , it was bad, totally leaving out the fact she married a few months ago, then went on to say here??? The bad out weighed the good, so I guess it slipped her mind? Sad.
I can see not wanting to do this with someone you don't much care for, just a casual fb. But, if you love someone you strive to make them happy. Get over your own inhibitions | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/24/2008 9:05:28 PM |
. What if he didn't like buying you birthday presents, and the thought of it gave him a headache? You'd still want those gifts, wouldn't you? You'd feel like you're somehow entitled to them just because you're in a relationship. The attitude would be, "I don't care if you want to buy me a gift or not! You'd better not step foot through that doorway on my birthday if you're not bearing gifts like the magi or the 3 wise men!"
That's a terrible analogy. I don't think it's possible to make it work at all, but it would be more like a man loving to buy his wife anniversary presents, but hating or not knowing how to wrap them. So, the woman gets them unwrapped -- take a little excitment out of it, but the gift is still there!
I'd liken it more to making new recipes for my ex -- sometimes they'd turn out terrible, but he would smile and eat it anyway to make me happy. The only difference is, I would NEVER make a recipe that he hated, twice. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/25/2008 7:19:47 AM | | Becuase some guys taste like bleach and worse... Wouldn't it be much more romantic if she barfed all over yiou afterward? Check your diet and what you wash your shorts with so she doesn't want to gag... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/25/2008 10:45:58 AM |
What if he didn't like buying you birthday presents, and the thought of it gave him a headache? You'd still want those gifts, wouldn't you?
Still trying to guilt people into doing things they just cannot do. So sad... so pathetic! Comparing sex-acts with buying gifts is really grasping for straws. But, if I'd ever be in an otherwise great relationship with someone and he told me early on that he really dislikes buying presents for me or others, I'd say fine, I don't like to buy for others, either, so let's agree to not buy each other anything. I'm not kidding, I'm unorthodox anyway, and for me this would work.
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/25/2008 8:15:55 PM | I'm with you, I stumbled on this thread from your profile, but have strong feelings about this subject.
First of all, any sexual act should be completely consensual. If she doesn't want to do it, then by God find something else that works for both of you. A good handjob with the right lotion is pretty friggin spectacular and there's no issue of swallowing or "getting it on you."
Same the other way, gals, if he doesn't want to pleasure you for whatever reason, find something that works great for both of you!
That being said, if she wants to and he is into it, then there should be absolutely NO boundaries. Swallow, roll around in it, do whatever you want. And yes I'll be old fashioned, but love really has something to do with it. Sex for just sex's sake always brings up control issues. The "I got mine, who cares if you got yours" thing. When you truly love someone, and both of you enjoy something, then do it, do it, do it!! But when you don't love the other person, then you will try to control their actions, try to force them to do things they don't want to, etc.
So I'm thinking all the gals posted here that don't like oral and can't understand why their guy keeps wanting it, maybe have a good old chat with him and see if he really cares about you, or really just cares about his next orgasm. Just a thought. If my gal said, no, it makes me gag, then so be it and we grab the book and try something else.
And all the guys, yeah, it's great, but if you need a BJ more than you need her to be happy, then it might be time to move on.
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/25/2008 11:43:10 PM | Some women cant ...some can...some wont!
Even if I'm head over heals in love I CAN NOT. If he cant work around it he can get lost,
Im not gonna swallow something that feels like a snot ball or hawker gulping down my throat unless he like being threw up on. And believe it or not I am NOT a squeamish person either. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 6:19:09 AM | My ex-wife had a c-section with both our kids (cervix wouldn't dilate fully) and later a breast reduction. Guess who had to take care of her in the hospital and when she came home.Did I act childish and shun her because the thought of having anything to do with her bodily fluids repulsed me
Exuse me for having to respond to your stupidity but I must say just one thing to your post........did you have to eat what was in her catherter bag, or suck the blood out of her gauzes, and clean her wounds with your toungue?? If no, then ur comment is not relevent to this thread.
creswellguy is a smart man. You guys who require bj's read creswellguy's post and learn a thing or two about what a man is. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 7:09:29 AM | | HEY I WAS READING THIS FORUM AND COULDN TRESIST THIS.FOR ME IM HUNG WELL,NOT BRAGIN JUST BEING HONEST.2 THINGS MOST WOMEN FOR SOME REASON LIKE WANNA CHEW ON IT,THEN IT REALLY DOES NOTHING FOR ME BECAUSE IM MORE INTO PLEASING THE WOMEN IT TURNS ME ON WHEN A WOMAN CUMS | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 7:53:33 AM |
Its mind over matter
Yes, it is mind over manner...............but it is MY mind and it does matter.
It is beyond me why these kind of debates keep going........or why I even keep them going? For every man saying it is a deal breaker if she don't there is a great women saying I love to swallow my mans cum.............and for every women saying she doesn't like it there are men out there that say it isn't that big a deal for him and he can do with out it. So, why do men/women have to be nasty and degrade women and call them selfish, bad lovers, and insinuate there is something wrong with them because they don't like it instead of just finding someone that does like it. I can honestly understand why a man would like it..........seriously!!! I'm sure it feels amazing for him, but because it feels amazing to him doesn't make it feel amazing for all women.........sure some love that, but not myself. I guess I have only been sexual with men that I have been in a loving relationships with and me swallowing his cum was never an issue.......I guess because we loved one another we had a mutual respect for one another. I would never demand my lover to do anything..............so I feel he should be the same way. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 7:59:53 AM | When you truly love someone, and both of you enjoy something, then do it, do it, do it!! But when you don't love the other person, then you will try to control their actions, try to force them to do things they don't want to, etc.
If you've read this thread, you should have noticed that the only mention of forcing someone to do something has come from women who are pissed off by the idea that a guy would choose to not date them because she doesn't swallow and would like to create drama over that. The fact is, sexual compatability is important and I choose to not date women who I will not find sexually satisfying. Women who are squeamish are not sexually satisfying. A woman who gives me the impression she needs a hazmat suit to deal with the fluids normally produced during sex is not sexually satisfying. A woman who doesn't swallow but who expects me to perform oral sex on her is not only not sexually satisfying, she's a hypocrite and she's self-centered. I choose to not date those women.
Choosing to not date those women has nothing to do with forcing anyone to do anything, no matter how many of those women would like to misconstrue it to mean that in order to justify their one-sided view of sex. If she wants to be squeamish, (regardless of what she would like to call it), she needs to live with the consequences and not expect everyone to accomodate her. I'm going to know a woman's sexual preferences long before I fall in love with her, (and that's true for most men and women these days), so the entire, ``if you loved her,'' line, is a red herring. I see no reason to get less than I want when I can simply exclude from consideration, those women who aren't sexually compatable. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 8:13:28 AM | | Abelian, why do you have to trash women who don't. Being sexual compatible is a must, but just because she doesn't suck****does not make her not sexually satisfying.........you are making out that if a women doesn't there must be something wrong with her. There isn't..........she just doesn't want to and should be respected for that. Just the same as you should be for your wants and needs..........but trashing a women and acting like she is unable to sexually satisfy a man because she doesn't like to swallow says more about your character than it does hers. It's great that you know what you want sexually..........but don't trash others for not thinking the same as you do about sexual wants and needs. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 8:14:00 AM |
It is beyond me why these kind of debates keep going........or why I even keep them going?
It keeps going because you and several other women continue to promote the idea that in a ``loving relationship'' none of this matters and that the issue has something to do with men demanding things:
I guess I have only been sexual with men that I have been in a loving relationships with and me swallowing his cum was never an issue.......I guess because we loved one another we had a mutual respect for one another. I would never demand my lover to do anything..............so I feel he should be the same way.
You've ignored the fact that the men who want their partners to swallow, in general, have said that they just wouldn't get into such a relationship. You and several other women are deliberately misconstruing the point. When you stop doing that and just accept the idea that everyone is entitled to choose a partner based on ANY criteria he/she chooses to use as deal breakers, there won't be anything to debate. Neither you nor anyone else is entitled to determine what criteria are ``legitimate'' reasons for rejecting someone. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 8:17:52 AM | Abelian, why do you have to trash women who don't.
You are deliberately misconstruing what I wrote. Find one instance of where I've trashed a woman who chooses not to swallow and who wasn't a hypocrite regarding the reverse situation.
Being sexual compatible is a must, but just because she doesn't suck****does not make her not sexually satisfying
It makes her not sexually satisfying for me. I'm the one who counts when it comes to whom I choose to date. Stop trying to tell me what should satisfy me. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 8:18:28 AM |
You've ignored the fact that the men who want their partners to swallow, in general, have said that they just wouldn't get into such a relationship. You and several other women are deliberately misconstruing the point. When you stop doing that and just accept the idea that everyone is entitled to choose a partner based on ANY criteria he/she chooses to use as deal breakers, there won't be anything to debate. Neither you nor anyone else is entitled to determine what criteria are ``legitimate'' reasons for rejecting someone.
You are a hypocrite.........read my post. You can't just high light what you think will make a case for you. Get a life...........go find a great girl to suck you****instead of trashing those who don't.
You are deliberately misconstruing what I wrote. Find one instance of where I've trashed a woman who chooses not to swallow and who wasn't a hypocrite regarding the reverse situation.
Sucks doesn't it..........practice what you preach. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 8:27:26 AM | Again, I feel that women have a choice to do as they want. Because they have that choice, I too have a choice, meaning if we are not compatible in the bedroom, I see no point for LTR. (big deal I'm shallow)
Many have mentioned love,, I really don't think that is part of the issue. Because I want compatibility in the bed room, as well as many other area of life.. I would think I would know if I were compatible with a woman in the sexual department well before I fell in love with her,,
I don't think any reasonable man or women says a women has to swallow, however, There are some women who just refuse to, and that's OK,, but I don't think I read any responses from those women who will even put their mouth on a guys man hood..
Then I wonder, if some of those same women will even kiss a guy after he goes down on her, does she find that disgusting and gross as well,, Because I like going down on a woman, then slide my body on top of hers,,start making love and kiss her lips,, the last thing I want is a women to turn her head and say gross, after, I just spent some time pleasing her, (yes I wanted too) I also know she is going to enjoy it( at least the women I have known)......
Just think of the positions that will no longer be used, 69 for one,,My self I like that one and all others,, so I wouldn't want to loose any position, ( unless it a painful for her) So yes a can fore go a position that is painful, but not the ones where we please each other at the same time..
So some of you women are right, I'm selfish, ........But life is not always about you,, and as man I have that right to say,, if I'm with a woman and we are not compatible in the bedroom,, we aren't going to work.. I would know that well before i fell in love, by the way,, Just like I would know other things about her/ us that may or may not work outside the bedroom.. such as sexual attitude, her values, her personality, etc.. those thing and many more are the deciding factor of whether i fall in love,, not whether I get a blow job, but one of my many clues, is our sexually compatibility,,
so for the women who have issues ,,, suck it up,,,, experiment some,, who knows you might just like it,, | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 10:19:26 AM | ........And then coming with some ridiculous anecdote about a women who gave oral and then contracted some evil disease that spread through her throat and digestive tract.
Its completely immaterial if you belive it or not. It happend and the doctor treating her is the one who was telling about this horrible incident with that woman. It can and does happen.
.....The ONLY thing wrong with swallowing is in their own attitudes against oral.
The only thing wrong with you is your brain. You dont seem to have one. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 10:44:09 AM |
Its completely immaterial if you belive it or not. It happend and the doctor treating her is the one who was telling about this horrible incident with that woman. It can and does happen.
There are a lot more confirmed cases of people contracting terrible diseases by breathing the air in a room with someone who has the disease or touching someone with the disease. A notable example is ebola. Therefore your logic dictates you should never step outside of a sterile bubble or touch anyone without being suited up and having biolevel 4 safegaurds in place because you might become infected with a terrible disease.
I can even find authorative references to cite, instead of a vague anecdote about a doctor telling someone something about a horrible incident. | |
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