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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 10:47:15 AM | African considers himself an expert, but it seems you have he has idea what is sex(taking lessons from the President Clinton does not make you an expert on sex) being he said oral sex is not sex... sheesh.
Also, go to the medical sites for information on transmission of disease before you declare yourself an expert. If you have open sores or use your mouth (very thin skin on your lips and lots of crack especially in winter) any opening in the skin is now susceptible to disease transmission...
As for the topic, whic has been strayed from, compatibility in the bedroom is very important, but men seem to feel woman just "should" enjoy it... suck it up yourselves... some do not. I guess you have no idea that what you eat can make you taste foul... men (and women) with normal (healthy) diets have a much better taste so if you want it, quit drinking so much (especially beer, the hops make it taste really sour!) and eat your veggies and oranges, lay off the pop and too much sweets and cut back on red meat.
AND just because you daydream about it all day does not mean you deserve it... hehe. Seriously though, selfishness in bed is just such a turn off. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 11:03:55 AM | Also, go to the medical sites for information on transmission of disease before you declare yourself an expert. If you have open sores or use your mouth (very thin skin on your lips and lots of crack especially in winter) any opening in the skin is now susceptible to disease transmission...
The point being what?
AND just because you daydream about it all day does not mean you deserve it... hehe.
No one deserves anything but an opportunity to get what he/she wants in life. That is why I'm not going to let someone else tell me what should satisfy me.
Seriously though, selfishness in bed is just such a turn off.
No disagreement there. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 11:09:12 AM | African please update your sex education knowledge.
And really, would anyone honestly want someone to do something to the that they didnt want to be doing? IMO, thats NOT what sex or enjoying ones sexuality is about. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 11:16:18 AM |
No one deserves anything but an opportunity to get what he/she wants in life. That is why I'm not going to let someone else tell me what should satisfy me.
No one is telling you what should satisfy YOU........what they are trying to say is with all the women that love doing it why don't you chase one of them instead of trashing those who don't. Why should a women that don't want to swallow not get the opportunity to get what she wants? If swallowing is that important to you then by all means you should get it..........especially when there are so many that love it.
My question to you is this.............with all that have said they love it.......why do you keep finding the need to trash those who don't? You know what you want.........and that is your choice. I don't think a man should have to go with out having his cum swallowed if that is a deal breaker for him, but that doesn't give him the right to trash me or call me less desirable because I don't. It only makes me not compatible with him......... You trash anyone that doesn't see it your way.........trying seeing it from others points of view and maybe you wouldn't have to cram yours down anyone's throat anymore. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 11:19:11 AM |
but men seem to feel woman just "should" enjoy it..
This man feels a woman I'm involved with "should" enjoy it, ..if she doesn't,, she isn't going down on me,, so please don't think that a woman is doing me a favor,, I want sexual compatibility,, A woman who enjoys "all" sex, without finding those acts as disgusting,,etc..so if a woman does some thing she doesn't like or enjoy,, it's very easy to see and feel, just by her actions,,therefore I find that as a complete turn off... go play star fish with someone else... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 11:26:56 AM | The only way to contract a disease is to have sex with someone who has a disease
Its disease that went into her body. If you think eating a disease is ok and that you cant catch it that or become very ill from it you are sadly mistaken. Please try not to show how stupid you really are in this thread anymore. The more you say the dumber you look. Period | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 11:29:27 AM |
go play star fish with someone else...
what does not swallowing cum have to do with just laying there during sex? Again, a man that will trash a women who doesn't like oral sex instead of just simply finding one that likes it and being happy. Maybe you fixation on oral is because you lack in the penetration department........because by you saying her not liking oral means she must suck in bed the same could be say that since you are fixated on oral you must suck during penetration. Either you get off on trashing women who aren't compatible with you...........or your a hypocrite. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 11:45:47 AM | ........So thats why you and the other ladies won't swallow or do oral sex...
because your boyfriends and husbands have diseases ?
No, its becuaes we dont like it. period. For you to come back with such ignorance shows you jsut simply want to fight.
......We've wasted 20 pages on the assumption that we are all dealing with sexual partners that we trust and are disease free
No we have wasted 23 pages trying to educate a complete idiot....YOU
If women dont like it then dont do it. If you do like it then do it. But no guy is gonna tell me i have to do it whether i like it or not. If he tried then its hit the road jack and dont you come back no more. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 11:59:59 AM |
It is beyond me why these kind of debates keep going
yet you seem to enjoy them...
what does not swallowing cum have to do with just laying there during sex?
Means we are not compatible.
Again, a man that will trash a women who doesn't like oral sex instead of just simply finding one that likes it and being happy.
It's not a matter of finding a women who enjoys it,, most if all that I have known love it..
Maybe you fixation on oral is because you lack in the penetration department Now who is personally attacking some one, I don't believe I attacked anyone personally,,
because by you saying her not liking oral means she must suck in bed
Yes I am....that is my view, because we are not compatible..
Either you get off on trashing women who aren't compatible with you........... Either you get off on trashing women who aren't compatible with you...........
That may be how you feel,, but I said go play star fish with some one else,, how is that trashing women,, to me she is a star fish,, I want a woman one who like sex, all area of sex, I would then not consider her as a star fish,, no where did I say all women,, just the ones who I'm not compatible with.. I'm entitled to my personal view,,,
or your a hypocrite.
Not a chance,, to each their own,, But,, still I believe women have a choice,,
If it happens to be against what I like in the bedroom she is not for me,therefore star fish.., I would also add,, I may not be her cup of tea either, frankly I don't care either way..
as for hypocrite,, you may want to go back and read how you attack as well, to trash men, and insult them..try reading what you wrote again...
Maybe you fixation on oral is because you lack in the penetration department
So much for her gag reflex,, hmmmmmmmm... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 12:03:25 PM | | Bravo!!Well said, and it is just a simple issue of choice,Look guys, alot of you do not like to give oral, and you know it, you may attempt it, but your not good at it because your heart is not in it.The same for women,some of us know that guys that smoke and drink, the taste can be just horrible, on the other hand, men who drink less, do not smoke, drink a lot of fruit juice, it seems better, also, some men, cum too too much...lol and others it is not a lot and there fore not a problem, texture, yep sometimes you just don't like something...I love to give my partner satisfaction, I take pride in knowing I do it well and I get very aroused knowing those sounds and actions are caused by me..I also take pride in being clean and knowing my partner is not going to have any questions about down there:P It is all choice....if you pick up a quickie and not sure where he or she has been, you get what you get.. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 12:05:59 PM | African, my post is right on and perhaps you should read what I wrote, accept your ignorance (lack of knowledge and understanding) and not make assumptions. Someone saying they are disease free is not an absolute so go hide your head in the sand and whether I like oral sex/swallowing will be for myself and my partner to share... not with you, for certain!
Everyone is different and to each their own...but it does seem there are few men here who need it to the point of writing 100 posts to emphasize thhey want their dates to have no gag reflex and love it or it is a no starter. (and perhaps even looking for some positive replies to save them all that awful communication/meet/date time... hey! Just add that to your profiles... no swallow= no starter!) You have the right to be shallow, but saying you are not forcing it is difficult to believe being some you are so damn adamant about it.
If you need it that much, take the advice on how to make it taste better or continue to betch you aren't getting any/enough/swallowing...etc etc.
And Albelian, If you didn't get what I said in my post... look it up! For someone who purports to be an expert on sex/oral sex, why would you ask that question? *rolls eyes* | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 12:18:14 PM | you may attempt it, but your not good at it because your heart is not in it
I dont attempt it becuase for me, its a sick thing to do. Thats my choice. I say what goes in my body and what dont...Thats not his decision. His decision is to pack up and leave. If thats his chioce because of a bj then it speaks mountains about him. A bj does not deteremine love. for the ladies who like eating cum thats great for you. But you will never ever keep a man that way becuae he can get that same thing from a dozen other women. Try to find a man that loves you. Peace to all.
to the poster below me no woman who cant do bj's has said the man has to do oral on her or she is gone. If a man dont like then then he dont have to do it either. If he wants to he will whether she goes down on him or not. But never be made to feel he has to and neither should she feel she has to perform bj's.
and no oral is not about just a woman going down on a man but that is what this thread is asking about. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 12:20:20 PM | My idea of oral, is not just about a woman going down on a man,, it's me going down on her as well..that is what I like,,
Kissing is oral as well, so isn't kissing a woman breasts, etc etc,, I have read is some forums if a man was not a good kisser,, he just might as well go else where,,there are lots germs in our months,, I'm all for kissing,, but I have read, if a man didn't like it,, he is gone,, it this a double standard? most likely is,,
But again to each their own,,
men know what they like,, as do women... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 12:24:46 PM |
A bj does not deteremine love.
You are abouslty right,,
In this day an age,, Most, not all ,,engage in sex well before they fall in love,,,so love has nothing to do with BJ's other than they will become more intense, as love kicks in... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 1:02:06 PM | I have been with women who swallow, deep throat and those who do not.
So what?
Do I like cumming inside her mouth? At times, however, if my partner does not want me too, why should I push that? My last GF loved oral, and could teach Linda Lovelace things, and my present prefers to not me cum in her mouth.
My present one makes it up in so many other ways, so if your just concentrating on one act, you miss out on an entire sexual and sensuality experience.
Respect the one your with, it gets you a lot more then complaining about things. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 2:18:03 PM |
And Albelian, If you didn't get what I said in my post... look it up! For someone who purports to be an expert on sex/oral sex, why would you ask that question? *rolls eyes*
I'm waiting for you to explain it to me since you were the one who decided I didn't know anything about this stuff. Feel free to do so. Use the correct terminology, be precise and we can see who gets what, but first state your exact point precisely. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 2:33:38 PM | rdcnorm, just because YOU are not compatible with someone does not make her a star fish. Are you that narrow minded? Do you actually know what they mean when they say "star fish in bed". That means just laying there...........
If it happens to be against what I like in the bedroom she is not for me,therefore star fish..,
You are insulting any women that don't swallow by that statement........trashing them for not liking what you do. By saying they are lame in bed if they don't want you cum in their mouth.......it shows what lack of respect you have for women.
Maybe in YOUR EXPERIENCES, but that is not the law because you said so. Maybe they laid there because you were boring.........
See making general statements is insulting.............and yes, I did insult you but I'm not stupid enough to try to say I didn't. That's the difference between you and I...........I don't flip it on anyone else to validate my statement.
not swallowing your cum= just lays there during sex? What the f**k? The more you speak the more you make your valid points sound stupid. Abelein(sp) at least makes perfect sense when he posts something and stays consistent when he speaks. For that I respect him, but you just make yourself sound stupid as hell.......and I'm sorry for saying that. While he thinks that women won't be satisfying in bed to HIM if the don't you actually degrade them and speak of things that you have no idea of.
BTW, what about my gag reflex? I don't like to swallow..........that has nothing to do with my sucking abilities........period. If you are going to come at me with something........please at least have your s**t straight first. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 2:47:56 PM |
Exuse me for having to respond to your stupidity ...
Resorting to name calling now? Thanks. Your abject refusal to see a point goes to show that you are simply a lost cause in this area. Thanks for the kind words and Happy Holidays!  | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 2:54:44 PM | | Taylord, your post was stupid not you. I was trying to make a point that you was not asked to eat her fluids from her operations. The guys here wnat us to eat their cum. Now if all I had to do was clean up his cum ...no problem . but thats not what we aer talking aobut here. Sorry if you were offended . I was jsut making a point that cleaning bodily fluids and eating them are two different things. Happy holidays to you as well. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 3:06:46 PM | African, we all have the right to *not* like certain sex acts. That does not make us childish! Do you like *all* foods? What if I told you, you should like brussels sprouts, because you're an adult, and if you don't then you're childish? Why is it, that when it comes to sex, everyone has to like everything? It's not like that with any other thing. Music? Do you like *all* types? I don't. carry on... 
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 3:54:17 PM | kirota,,
rdcnorm, just because YOU are not compatible with someone does not make her a star fish. Are you that narrow minded? Do you actually know what they mean when they say "star fish in bed". That means just laying there...........
I actually do know what it means, and from my experience, and only a few,, those women that I speak of are star fish,
Let be clear, I have never said any thing about a women here about them being a star fish., or you.... now if you find what I said insulting to you... ,, All I can say is, I'm not projecting your feeling you are, you are in charge, Don't loose that power because you don't like what I said about my persona;l experiences, or what I like or don't like... if I hit a sore spot with you, and you take it personality,, that is not my issue, but your,, I'm talking about my experiences,, and fortunately you were not involved with my experiences,, therefore, I am no way including you or any one else..
yes I did say this
If it happens to be against what I like in the bedroom she is not for me,therefore star fish..,
That is no different than me saying,, if I went on a few dates, and all that woman does is bash her ex,, I'd say this,, that woman is damaged and she would not be for me, therefore damaged..in my personal opinion,,
You are insulting any women that don't swallow by that statement........trashing them for not liking what you do. By saying they are lame in bed if they don't want you cum in their mouth.......it shows what lack of respect you have for women.
No I am not, just the ones i have experianced,, and if any women finds that insulting that is their problem, because I have not included them, other that to say, she would not be compatible with me,, I have also said time and time again, I respect a womans right to choose... however if I'm in bed with a woman, and she is a star fish, she is not for me,, period,, if at may age, I'm with a woman and she has no clue of what it's like to share in all forms of oral play,, she is a starfish..
Maybe in YOUR EXPERIENCES, but that is not the law because you said so.
Your right it's not law,, but in my bed room experiences it is law..
Maybe they laid there because you were boring
There you go attempting to insult again..
See making general statements is insulting
to who,, I never said anything about you or any one,,just my personal experiences,,
and yes, I did insult you but I'm not stupid enough to try to say I didn't.
But your might want to read a few lines above,, have you learned any thing,, as your attempt is still prevalent..
there really is nothing you can say to me that could or will offend me, let me tell you why,, this is the forums,, what you say has no effect,, it's not personal, because we are not even at that level,, there your words go to death ears, other than to comment..from my personal views,,
That's the difference between you and I...........I don't flip it on anyone else to validate my statement.
Yes, and this might be the only time I agree with you, you don't give head, and I like it,, ,as for flip, I have no idea what your saying..
not swallowing your cum= just lays there during sex?
That is your opinion,, I never said that.. you can try and twist my words, but again,, this is your view of what i might have meant..
What the f**k? The more you speak the more you make your valid points sound stupid
there you go again,, the attempt to insult
For that I respect him, but you just make yourself sound stupid as hell
and again she speaks
and I'm sorry for saying that
no need to apologize,, they are your issues not mine,, I don't expect you or any one else to agree with my personal experience or preference,,
BTW, what about my gag reflex? I don't like to swallow..........that has nothing to do with my sucking abilities........period. If you are going to come at me with something........please at least have your s**t straight first.
frankly I don't care about your sexual abilities, or inabilities,,your fantasise, or anything else, why you would ask me, I have no clue, although If I weren't on a public forum I may not be so polite in my opinion, you did ask, it's been said be careful what we ask for..
As for me coming at you,, I think you are the one who started this by quoting my star fish comment..
Id say,, just swallow your pride and walk away,, because I am.. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 4:15:40 PM | My opinion on the whole subject is mine and mine alone.
First off no woman should be expected to swallow . If she does , great.. if not thats great too.
Secondly it should be concidered pretty damn good if you got the blow job to begin with.
Thirdly its not your right to cum in her mouth. Remember she wasnt required to suck it in the first place.
Lastly.. IF you cant handle the taste or reminants in her kiss.. How dare you expect her to handle the whole thing herself.
Respect goes a long way..
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/26/2008 5:02:07 PM | rdcnorm, I'm sure you are a very nice guy.....or I am hoping. You did say something about a gag reflex.....that's why I ask. You have insulted me by saying I am projecting myself on your statements.......sorry. I have rode horses my whole life and you really need to talk to a man that has has sex with a cowgirl. It takes a lot more skill and stamina to ride a horse than it does a man.....lmao.
I don't think you should have to settle for less than what you want sexually from a women............but you should appreciate the ones that do and respect the once's that don't even though they are not compatible to you. I think it is pretty wrong to make general statements about women just off of a few personal experiences. That would be like me saying men are boring in bed because they don't last long enough to even make it worth me taking my pants off. Yep, that would be a pretty broad statement to say just from my experiences...........because I know not all men will only last about 5 minutes.
Happy New Year...........and peace on earth.....lmao  | |
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