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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 9:10:49 AM | There are men who have posted here including youself who will leave his so called love if she can perform bj.s for him.
Please find that for me and give me the post number,,
never have I said that,, I would leave some one 'm in love with "love"
I have always said a women has a choice, I have always said I respect that choice..
But she will not me the women for me, so I wouldn't even consider a relationship with her, you would have to be a relationship to be in love in my opinion,,
so I'd say stop grasping at straws to make a point..
I have read all these posts,, and sure some,, but are you any better,, Like i have always said,, if what people say, you take personally,, it must hit home somewhere,
So I guess your saying,, if you read a comment that one man says,, and you don't like it, now you say most or all men,,, I'd say address that poster, instead of saying all men..etc.. I think it takes a little maturity, to let some thing go,, and I'm sure that going to come back at me,, but I'm not flapping my feathers in an op roar, professing woman are bad because they don't like BJ,, to the opposite,, good for them,, but your not my type,, even though I have said, (IF that were with me she would be a starfish) I'm sure that upsets you as well,, but I';m not talking about your or anyone else here, just that women I happen to be in bed with, is that disrespectful to that woman, It might be, but that is how I would view, as one woman said in this forum about me,, I like BJ because my man hood is too small,, if I were in bed with a woman who didn't like my manhood, so be it,, find some one smaller, If I hurt you, I'm sorry, we aren't compatible, I'm not going to get a size reduction to make a "possible" relationship work | |
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Posted: 12/29/2008 9:19:58 AM | ........Please find that for me and give me the post number,,
YOU rdcnorm said.........go play star fish with someone else...
Page 25 post 591 YOU called woemn who dont give bj's a starfish in bed. thats jsut one example. I am not about to hunt through all the pages and get more but I did remeber this one about you calling us a starfish in bed. I even went so far as to find the post for ya jsut in case you want to claim you didnt say it. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 9:29:51 AM | so where did I say I would leave someone i love that was that statement,,,
and yes she can go play star fish with someone else,, did I include you or anyone else here,, were you in my bed,, I think not,, nor was anyone else here in my bed..not that is going to happen,, but if it should,, then I'd say it to you personally,, get my point..
Your a fool then,, to make untrue comments about some that are not true,, and the inability to prove what you say is true of some,, you certainly lose credibility,,
again I say,, you grasp at straws to prove a point... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 9:38:48 AM | ...........you grasp at straws to prove a point
How is it grasping at straws to show you what you siad in ur post...which by the way you asked me to do? You saying go play starfish with somene else is saying that you would leave them not to mention calling them a name such as a starfish becuase they dont do bj's.
............to make untrue comments about some that are not true,, and the inability to prove what you say is true of some,,
Its not an untrue comment....go read it. and its not an inability to proove anyting. I showed you the proof. the proof you asked for is in your post.
You are simply angry becasue I found your post where you did both called us a name...starfish. and to say go play starfish in someone else's bed is saying get out of your bed and be gone. I prooved all I needed to jsut as you asked me to do. And it has made you angry. now I did what you asked , gave you your answer now I think its time we ended this ridiculous argument. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 9:49:19 AM | lets get the fact straight you said this about me,,
There are men who have posted here including youself who will leave his so called love if she can perform bj.s for him.
me calling my so called sex partner a starfish has nothing to do with love,, because I';m not in love with her at this point in the dating game,, therefore,, you still make untrue comments,, i would like to point out,, a relationship starts when two people have common interests,, I find nothing in common with a star fish,, therefore no relationship, therefore no possibility of falling in love,,,
see my point.. so again I ask you where in this forum did I say I would leave some one I loved if I didn't get a BJ
So I'd say be a big girl,, gut it up and admit your wrong in this case,, and stop trying to twist my words,, | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 9:56:04 AM |
You saying go play starfish with somene else is saying that you would leave them.
and what is wrong with that? Sexual combatibiltiy is important. That's what dating is for....to find out if you are combatible. At our age.....we aren't going to marry someone that we're not fulfilled by....and Norm isn't talking about divorcing someone over this....he is talking about ending a "new" relationship.
Hell Kitten.....you're on here complaining about your hubby in all manners of your marriage......at least Norm (and myself and others) are smart enough to figure out if we are sexually equal before we marry again.
I'd end a relationship with a man that won't give me oral......and find one that will.
Norm calling a woman a starfish is his way of saying she's boring in bed.
Was this woman you? NO?...Then why get your panties in a bunch?
Why does a man's opinion you will never meet or date get u so riled up?
If you are taking it so personally.....that is your problem.....not his.
I find men that won't give oral boring......does that make me selfish? or a jerk?
No.....it means I like more in the bedroom.....and will not commit to a man that can't give me more.
I also like to use toys in the bedroom......and I'd much rather find out if my man does before I marry him then come on here and complain about it after the fact. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 10:08:13 AM |
I said its self centered when a guy breaks off the relationship with someone he claims to love becuase shecant give oral.
Not one man here has said he'd do that. Once love is involved, all bets are off. What we have said is that we won't get into a (serious) relationship with a woman who refuses to participate in oral copulation. And it's not a matter of she can't do it, it's the fact that she won't do it. No woman is incapable of performing oral sex; not unless she physically can't open her mouth. If she can eat (especially popcicles) or drink, she can give a BJ. So all this "can't do" talk is utter BS. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 11:00:33 AM |
See how this works, men get called self centered because we like BJ
Actually you are self centred because as this threads topic is all about, some men need to have to exactly their way or it isn't "right", "finished" "done properly".
But let me bring up some points that men neglect to mention. You say you are not going to fall in love with someone before she gives you a blow job. But it sure means you could love her if she does it right... fine. Really that is fine, because you have a right to have compatibility sexually, just as we do.
However, how much do you discuss your needs with the female. Is the fact that you like swallowing even brought up or that you like oral sex a lot and need a swallower? How many dates before you have this "talk." If she doesn't swallow and you never told her you liked it... do you dump her right away or have the talk then. If she doesn't swallow have you asked if you tasted bad or why she can't? Does she actually know why you are dumping her? Do you actually know she doesn't swallow or maybe it is because you stunk like a farm or tasted like crud that day. Did you make sure you didn't eat asparagus, drink too much or eat too many kales... and generally eat healthily? Do you drink too much beer... and not drink enough water? Are you really clean? Do you have a daily regimen and know how to clean properly?
I bet none of the above because you all feel that at your age discussion is not necessary, you know what you like so females should be mind readers... and swallow no matter what, or be dumped... Relationships built on control and poor communication are not relationships designed to last. Just do it and swallow seems to be the norm! I wish you all luck with that boys!
Taylord, you obviously have not read the thread , and are speaking for yourself. The men here have stated oral and swallowing are necessary TO fall in love! All bets are off once they don't.
(And Normy, no one is more off topic then you because you have made this all about you and your needs and you insult women and individuals by innuendo and blatant attacks and statements, so expect it back. I do not know you, you do not know me, but you assume so much about me. I do not have to assume... you have laid all your sexuality issues here for people to see... and made it clear you have to have a swallower. I confide in my lover... not here, and I recommend you do the same, although you stated you wouldn't want to have to TEACH someone how to make love to you. Good for you, but for someone who is not looking for a wife, you have made it clear that you are looking only for a swallower and then wonder why you get sexual come ons in your mail? LOL ! Hide your profile and THEN tell me you are not just here for dating anymore or trolling and looking for a swallower! And I take offense because as a mother, I find the statements are you making that you need a swallower... not a wife *DO NOT say you did not say that... you sure as hell did, just not in as few words* while you have a picture of you and your son up pointing to strangers here, rather disgusting. I am not grasping at straws, just needed to point out that you have no idea how to use their, there, they're/where, wear/ and other simple words, so I surely hope some female doesn't make your poor writing skills a deal breaker... because that isn't selfish, that is her NEED! Ahaha! And being I cannot be here without replying to your drivel, I really do have to go. Oh and, BTW you replied to me ...nice constraint! I am about to apply some, being this is the Normy Needs thread now... Look up cathartic Normy! ) | |
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Posted: 12/29/2008 11:56:18 AM | unigue.....
Feel free to say anything you want about me, frankly I don't care,
I don't care if you or anyone else takes may comments personally, none were actually directed at any one in a mean fashion, but if those who take it personally, get a grip, take control of your self, it's so hard for me to comprehend that anyone gives up their power of control to someone else so easily. Not mentally stable comes to mind, or severely has relationship issues, therefore personal attacking others in this forum,,
This should be an open discussion, without it affecting you.. it's weak and pathetic in my opinion, to whine and complain about others, pick on spelling, poor writing skills,, go to profiles, take written words out of context, quick to judge, complain they are rejected because some men won't accept a woman for not giving a BJ. I'd say for some, have lost their grip on reality,, it's also important to mention this topic is not about you either, it's about blow jobs/cum, but you some seem to take it so personally .
That I will only assume their blood presser raises to a level of anger,, It's been my understanding, there are many professions that are available to help conquer such issues. And yes i have already seeks professional help,, sorry to tell you this,, but I have a clean bill of heath,, includes STD free..
I will admit I have my issues,, but they are mine, and if someone doesn't want to accept them,, hey that is fine with me, I comfortable with who I am. I also have my faults, but I'm not expecting anyone to accept those either, so no whining here,,If someone has a need to go off topic and pick on my spelling and grammar,, Hey that's just "one" of my downfalls, I accept that because I am slightly dyslexic and have always had a problem with the english language,, I accept that too,, but I don't expect that anyone else has too..I am also arrogant and obnoxious too, but again, Don't expect any one to put up with that either,, so go right ahead,, bash me all you care too,, I take no offence,,
But I will ask you to leave my deceased wife and my son out of this discussion..this is not about them.. so attack me all you want, I'm OK with that..
MisMicki,,,,,,,, thank you for seeing my point...
Norm calling a woman a starfish is his way of saying she's boring in bed.
Was this woman you? NO?...Then why get your panties in a bunch?
Why does a man's opinion you will never meet or date get u so riled up?
If you are taking it so personally.....that is your problem.....not his. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 12:01:19 PM |
However, how much do you discuss your needs with the female. Is the fact that you like swallowing even brought up or that you like oral sex a lot and need a swallower? How many dates before you have this "talk."
I would hope it comes up at least by the time one has sex for the first time. I've never had sex with a woman who needed any encouragement to perform oral sex and I always say something if I'm getting close to the point of orgasm so that she can decide to finish or go on to something else. Half the time women will have said, it's okay, sometimes I have to ask afterward if it's ever okay, etc. Every situation is not the same, but it is important to not get married to someone with whom one is not sexually compatible. So, it should come up asap into a relationship so that one can decide what to do. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 2:01:23 PM | and what is wrong with that? Sexual combatibiltiy is important. That's what dating is for....to find out if you are combatible. At our age.....we aren't going to marry someone that we're not fulfilled by....and Norm isn't talking about divorcing someone over this....he is talking about ending a "new" relationship.
Hell Kitten.....you're on here complaining about your hubby in all manners of your marriage......at least Norm (and myself and others) are smart enough to figure out if we are sexually equal before we marry again.
I'd end a relationship with a man that won't give me oral......and find one that will.
Norm calling a woman a starfish is his way of saying she's boring in bed.
Was this woman you? NO?...Then why get your panties in a bunch?
Why does a man's opinion you will never meet or date get u so riled up?
If you are taking it so personally.....that is your problem.....not his.
I find men that won't give oral boring......does that make me selfish? or a jerk?
No.....it means I like more in the bedroom.....and will not commit to a man that can't give me more.
I also like to use toys in the bedroom......and I'd much rather find out if my man does before I marry him then come on here and complain about it after the fact.
This man feels a woman I'm involved with "should" enjoy it, ..if she doesn't,, she isn't going down on me,, so please don't think that a woman is doing me a favor,, I want sexual compatibility,, A woman who enjoys "all" sex, without finding those acts as disgusting,,etc..so if a woman does some thing she doesn't like or enjoy,, it's very easy to see and feel, just by her actions,,therefore I find that as a complete turn off... go play star fish with someone else...
If its a deal breaker great........get it out there from the start. What they are talking about with the star fish comment is that he states that if a women is not compatible with him she is a "star fish". Exactly what he is saying is that if a women isn't compatible with him she is boring. Why did that need to be said if it wasn't meant to insult someone. Couldn't it be said that.........."If she is not compatible with me then it will not work" Did the insult have to be thrown in there? Seriously!!!! I personally don't give a shit that a man wouldn't want me for a sexual act that I don't feel comfortable doing..........but using little insults that he tries to play off as "they weren't directed at you BS" is a joke. He didn't need to say that about any female.......because being incompatible doesn't not mean there is anything wrong with the other person......they just don't mix well.
And while he says that it doesn't bother him and blah blah blah.........he just can't help himself but to comment and using little insults. He asks questions and then when you give him the answer he attacks you about something else and ignores your answer. Just like he wont' be able to help himself from coming back and commenting to mine..........yet he says others let it get to them and blah blah blah.........if he didn't give a shit he wouldn't be getting his undies in a not and would walk away.........Yet he stays all the while telling others they shouldn't let it get to them....... The old...........It doesn't bother me what any of you say, but I just have to keep coming and telling you that in every post because I just can't stand someone getting the last word, all the while telling them they shouldn't get there feathers ruffled........POT MEET KETTLE. | |
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Posted: 12/29/2008 2:45:45 PM | yes I said this
This man feels a woman I'm involved with "should" enjoy it, ..if she doesn't,, she isn't going down on me,, so please don't think that a woman is doing me a favor,, I want sexual compatibility,, A woman who enjoys "all" sex, without finding those acts as disgusting,,etc..so if a woman does some thing she doesn't like or enjoy,, it's very easy to see and feel, just by her actions,,therefore I find that as a complete turn off... go play star fish with someone else...
Why is this so hard to get,,, read this ,, "a woman I'm involved " did I mention anyone here,, therefore she is this in my opinion "go play star fish with someone else"
where did I say anything about a woman here....my comment is about her and me..
Why you would feel like a starfish or less than a woman, or take offence, again that is your issues,,because I wasn't talking about you...
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 2:47:48 PM |
but it is important to not get married to someone with whom one is not sexually compatible.
Absolutely! But, what happenes when/if this compatibility doesn't last? One or the other partner's libido can fall for a variety of reasons. Stress, depression, worry, hormonal changes, pregnancy, childbirth, taking care of an infant, etc. The list is endless. Both men and women need to realize, that at the time they marry they may be sexually compatible, but this rarely lasts.
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 2:50:16 PM |
but it is important to not get married to someone with whom one is not sexually compatible.
Absolutely! But, what happenes when/if this compatibility doesn't last? One or the other partner's libido can fall for a variety of reasons. Stress, depression, worry, fatigue, hormonal changes, pregnancy, childbirth, taking care of an infant, etc. The list is endless. Both men and women need to realize, that at the time they marry they may be sexually compatible, but this rarely lasts.
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 2:57:56 PM | As long as everyone keeps at it.......noone will have the ever coveted last word here!!
I think it might be time to agree to disagree......
and stop taking someone else's personal views.....personally! | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 3:02:06 PM | I said its self centered when a guy breaks off the relationship with someone he claims to love becuase shecant give oral. Not one man here has said he'd do that. Once love is involved, all bets are off. What we have said is that we won't get into a (serious) relationship with a woman who refuses to participate in oral copulation. And it's not a matter of she can't do it, it's the fact that she won't do it. No woman is incapable of performing oral sex; not unless she physically can't open her mouth. If she can eat (especially popcicles) or drink, she can give a BJ. So all this "can't do" talk is utter BS.
I stated the above in response to the included quote. I have underlined and "bolded" the relevant parts to this particular reply.
You said the below:
The men here have stated oral and swallowing are necessary TO fall in love! All bets are off once they don't.
Now, isn't that pretty much the same thing I said?? To translate my meaning, a "serious relationship" is one where love is involved. When I said that we [some of us] refuse to get into a serious relationship with a woman who refuses to give head, that is the same as what you're saying above. Please calm down, go have a glass of your favorite libation, and come back to the forums when you can read statements without looking through rage-filled eyes. Sheesh! | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 3:03:38 PM | Absolutely! But, what happenes when/if this compatibility doesn't last? One or the other partner's libido can fall for a variety of reasons. Stress, depression, worry, hormonal changes, pregnancy, childbirth, taking care of an infant, etc. The list is endless. Both men and women need to realize, that at the time they marry they may be sexually compatible, but this rarely lasts
What happens you stand by your partner, My wife died of cancer, I never left her side, no sex for a year, but because I loved her I could for go all of that, matter of fact I closed my business so I could take care of her,, and proud of it,,my marriage was more than just sex, but is that really the topic here, now if I knew we had issues, {we didn't) I would have never gotten to know her, therefore never gotten married, This I can say with all certainty,, that would have been a tragic loss on my end for not giving her that chance,, but I can't miss what I never would have had, if refused to be with her because of sexually compatibility,,
I also realize I opened my self up for attack because I asked not to bring my son or my wife in to this,, but I think your question was a valid one.. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 3:33:35 PM | Several women on here have mentioned an issue that would stop them from swallowing but no men (that i have read) have addressed it... The taste problem!! Some men taste bad, REALLY BAD!!! Who's fault is it then that the woman won't swallow? Is she supposed to do it anyway to prove her love for him even though it makes her puke?
And i'm not talking about the woman who doesn't like the taste of any cum, i'm talking about the woman who likes bjs, likes swallowing, but the guy tastes so bad that she can't do it. (And yes ive been there). Do men in general think she should be obliged to do it anyway? Is it still a dealbreaker even after she's told you the problem and you do nothing about it? Or do you not care how you taste but you expect her to enjoy it anyway? | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 3:44:17 PM |
The taste problem!! Who's fault is it then that the woman won't swallow?
That's like saying whose fault is it if the guy is too short. It's no one's fault, but that doesn't alter reality and make it better. If she thinks I taste bad, she can blame me for the problem, if it makes her feel better, but that isn't going to change anything. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 3:45:36 PM |
Several women on here have mentioned an issue that would stop them from swallowing but no men (that i have read) have addressed it... The taste problem!! Some men taste bad, REALLY BAD!!! Who's fault is it then that the woman won't swallow? Is she supposed to do it anyway to prove her love for him even though it makes her puke?
And i'm not talking about the woman who doesn't like the taste of any cum, i'm talking about the woman who likes bjs, likes swallowing, but the guy tastes so bad that she can't do it. (And yes ive been there). Do men in general think she should be obliged to do it anyway? Is it still a dealbreaker even after she's told you the problem and you do nothing about it? Or do you not care how you taste but you expect her to enjoy it anyway?
If I tasted bad , and my partner told me I did,,, yes I would change my eating habits, I have yet to have some one ask me though, I have found either women like to give BJ or not,, It's has been said, at times I may not have tasted as good as the last time,, but that never stopped a woman for giving me a BJ ever again, because it wasn't a consistent issues, eating does play apart,,, it's like a women,, they don't always taste the same,, but if I'm with a partner,, and one day she is not as yummy as the next,, i', not going to get sick in the corner,, or gag and make her feel bad.. and neither is the woman I'm with,, at least I have yet to experiace that.. we just move forward, and assume it just a one time thing... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it
Posted: 12/29/2008 4:55:51 PM |
I have found either women like to give BJ or not,, Talking from personal experience the amount i like to give (and finish) a bj depends entirely on how he tastes. If the man tastes bad consistently and won't make any effort to change that (i see you said you would) then he can only blame himself for his woman not enjoying it, and therefore not wanting to do it.
The relationship i am in currently it's a pleasure to give him that kind of pleasure, but there have been relationships i have been in that i wouldn't do it because of the taste.
so it's not quite as simple as some women like to do it and some don't. Day to day differences in taste are not the issue i am referring to.
i', not going to get sick in the corner,, or gag and make her feel bad.. Each and every time i have gagged it has been an involuntary thing. Nothing to do with making him feel bad.. Just the taste has been so bad my body rejected it..
That's like saying whose fault is it if the guy is too short. It's no one's fault, but that doesn't alter reality and make it better. If she thinks I taste bad, she can blame me for the problem, if it makes her feel better, but that isn't going to change anything. No it's not like saying the guy is too short.... it's not like it's something the guy can't change, because he can change it!! Diet is everything in determining what your body fluids taste like. What i can't understand is if the guy KNOWS he tastes really bad, but he still wants his woman to swallow his jizz. What happened to wanting your partner to enjoy sex too? Are you telling me if your woman consistently tasted like rotten meat down there that you would still want to eat her out??
If you want your woman to enjoy bjs and swallowing you gotta make sure you do everything you can to make it good for her, believe me there's no pleasure in getting a mouthful of foul tasting jizz. | |
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