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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 10:45:35 AM | Well different in the sense of how it happens...I guess if you experienced the woman gushing in your mouth than it could be "similar" (still I wouldn't say the gush is as hard and fast as the man's...don't know if it's as warm too)...I'm just saying it is definitely different when a guy cums in the woman's mouth compared to a woman gushing in a man's...
and for the record I am not disagreeing with you... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 11:30:15 AM | I like the guys on here that say if she won't do it then don't do it to her plain and simple...Actually it's not...I will swallow but let's be honest, having cum shot in the woman's mouth is a lot different than a woman cumming in the man's...
OK, I have no issue with saying it's different. I do have an issue with women who equivocate different with their personal value judgment that one is intrinsically disgusting but the other is not and that men ought to just accept that notion. Different doesn't imply inequitable. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 11:41:02 AM | You're quoting me but I never said it was DISGUSTING...I love it...I do it...but there is a DIFFERENCE in feeling of it shooting down our throats then a guy getting flooded all over his...that is all I am saying...
I think it is wonderful for both men and women to finish what they started...and if the girl doesn't want to swallow, at least let him cum in their mouth and spit it out...
Don't really understand why the guys don't "see" the difference...warm cum shooting in our mouths as fast as it does IS DIFFERENT than a woman gushing on a man's face...IT'S JUST DIFFERENT...both are nice and fun BUT DIFFERENT  | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 11:45:36 AM | poker, you have a point, it is different, I will never know what a woman feels while giving a BJ...all I know is I would like her to comfortable with what she is doing,,
From my personal experiences, many women have described to me what it's like to give a BJ, the good bad and the ugly, from wanting a man to push down on her head to not liking that,, the list is nearly endless, the key is to know what our partner like and dislike, when they give a BJ.
Now from a man perspective/experience, when I go down on a woman, she can do many of the same thing that a man can do to a woman,, for example, some women gush, some woman squirt with some "force",, now take that force, while a woman holds my head firmly in her sweet spot, so I can't move other than my lips and tongue,,, I would say,, with my mouth open, that warm "squirt" goes right down my throat, while the remaining flows out between my lips back to her sweet spot,
Then again there are others who like it more softly, just a tongue that wiggles without a lot of pressure, that changes my experience as well,, I get to breath,, in either case,, I'm loving it all,,,
and yes I know we are on the same page... isn't it nice to know the mans view, as i like to hear the woman view, especially the one I'm involved with,, isn;t it the goal , to make each other happy and not be selfish ,,, right...to enjoy and please our partners,,
That is why compatibility is so important in my opinion,, great sex is not about love,, however when in love, that sexual experiace becomes more intense and emotional..because of love...
edit: don't feel bad they changed the same subject line above one of my posts,, I'm a cum hater now too,, LMAO...
it seems that is now an option when we relay to a post,,, Ouch now we are all in trouble,,, I could you imagine if I wrote starfish above someones post,, what kind of grief I'd get,, woo who baby,, I'd be crucified LMAO,, no I wouldn't do that,, but I'd consider it...in some cases,, | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 11:49:20 AM |
So I see *someone* saw fit to change the subject line right above my post, and *only* above my post, WHY??? People like me don't have the right to express our opinions? Some "adults" you are!
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They did it to me too.........if that makes little boys feel better I guess let them play.....lmao
Basically, I think thre are a few women who have come to the realization that their prferences will shrink their dating pool and are just pissed off that they have to accept it.
It aslo shrinks the men's. however we are not pissed aobut our dating pool becuase the women who dont do bj's does not want a man that requires them. We want a man that knows whats important in a real loving relationship not one that puts a bj ahead of everyting else in life. So the only thing we are missing out on is the "bad men". Who would want a man that thinks with the lower head instead of the upper head?? therefore, we are missing out on .......nothing. If we wanted men like that dont u think we would change our preferences. I would not do a bj' for anyone come hell or high water. I dont care who he is.
Oh yes Kitty, you got me. I am going to change my views just to land a man. Why didn't I think to do that 2yrs ago? I could have been dating up a storm if I just changed my thinking to land a man. That statement alone was stupid.........you sit here and preach that you want to be respected for the fact that you are a big time hard ass and won't suck a****for any man and blah blah blah..........well, I have to tell you this. You have to give respect to get it. You don't respect anyone else's choices unless they are the same as you. I don't particularly get warm and fuzzy with the idea of swallowing, but I sure as hell don't have to bash those who do. Why do you do that? Why is it any of your business why people do things or why they don't? What does it affect you if swallowing is a deal breaker for someone? YOU ARE MARRIED. According to what you say true love conquers all so you should never have to worry about a dating pool. So, what does it matter what people think. Any valid points that you make you end up ruining them because you won't shut up about it. I have not changed me views on swallowing through this whole thread..........and especially wouldn't just to attract a man that in the long run I would not be compatible with. Unlike yourself I will never say never...........I can't say what I would do fore sure if I met the right person, but I know someone who is a hypocrite is not going to change my thinking by attacking me to do it. The way you are acting in this thread would be a better reason to try it than anyone saying how much they like it, because you are making a bigger issue of women like myself not doing it than anyone else. Because of your crazy tirades you ARE making it seem like something is wrong with us because we don't want to.
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 1:51:11 PM | Kirota, I was unware i changed my views either. what makes u think I changed my views. I also dont recall attacking you. I think you have read something you think i wrote. I will not do bjs as I have siad over and over for anyone. I read your post and have no idea why your attacking me. Makes no sense to me. But if thats what you feel you need to do then party on. changing my preferences to land a man.........never in a million yrs. I have never said I would and I will never do such a thing. I think you misread soemthing.
It does not affect me if other peopoe swallow or not. Thats really none of my business just like whether i do it or not is none of their business. Its more like the other way around. Peope are downing me becuase I dont do them. I am simply defending myself jsut like you or anyone else would. So no need to tell me anything about that. if people dont wnat to be attacked than they should stop attacking me for my views just like your post and many others. Seems like Im suppose to be agree with the ones who give bj's or else im attacked well guess what I dont agree. I have my own opinion just like u and everyone else has theirs. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 2:02:18 PM |
Kirota, I was unware i changed my views either. what makes u think I changed my views. I also dont recall attacking you. I think you have read something you think i wrote. I will not do bjs as I have siad over and over for anyone. I read your post and have no idea why your attacking me. Makes no sense to me. But if thats what you feel you need to do then party on Yeh,, I wondered that my self,, I though both Kitten and Kirota friends,, I guess we never know when we will be bitten,, on this one kitten I have to agree with you... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 2:16:03 PM | | Thks rdcnorm, Im just totally blew away by her post. Although her and I are not freinds, we do have same opinion on the subject at hand. I realize my opinons on subject have been rather strong. But so is everyone else's. But I dont recall ever attacking her...why would I when we agree on subject?? She must be having a bad day or somethign or misread something. Thats all I can figure and plus when I speak here I speak for me and only me. I dont speak for the rest of the women. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 2:29:33 PM | | Thanks rdcnorm for your nice post before (the site wouldn't let me leave a response since I already had 2 in the last 10)...Anyhow, the only reason I ever brought up the difference was to answer the original question as to why some women might not do it... | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 2:45:50 PM | how many men would kiss their sweetheart right before or after she swallows ? if she can swallow then you can kiss her . you men out their should try it , my old girlfriend was pretty turned on by it . | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 3:13:35 PM |
how many men would kiss their sweetheart right before or after she swallows ?
so far all the men I've been with...never even realized it wasn't a common thing...learned something LOL | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 3:15:43 PM | ^^^^^^you men,,, hmmmmmmmm
many of us men do........
My feeling is if my cum is good enough for her,, then it's good enough for me too, Just like when I go down on a woman,, I will come up and kiss her,, she doesn't turn her head way either...
it's all about compatibility,, I can't express yum yum enough,,,, | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 5:34:00 PM | Kitten and Norm..... even tho I believe Kirota will be here to explain her posts.....
I know that this comment from Kitten
<div class="quote">Basically, I think thre are a few women who have come to the realization that their prferences will shrink their dating pool and are just pissed off that they have to accept it. is what Kirota is referring to. I took offense to it myself. My personal preferences are what helps me weed those men out that I'm not compatible with..... Women that don't want to date a smoker also "shrink their dating pool"....we just don't see it as a negative as Kitten was trying to imply that it was.
and we are adults here......some of us can disagree with our friends....and still be friends. and tell them when they have crossed the line too.
Kirota agreeing with you on swallowing.......doesn't mean she has to agree with your style of posting......which I thought she made perfectly clear in her post. She said the same thing I said to you a few pages ago Kitten.....it's your attitude that's the problem.....not the fact that you don't swallow. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 5:47:06 PM | msmicki I have to disagree here, only because of the words in the quote. it's been the premise, using the words "few" "some" "personal experiences" "my opinion" "not all"
Kitten did that when she wrote
<div class="quote">I think thre are a few women She did not single out any one person in this forum, If I were do disagree with what she has done, then I may self would be guilty of making some big mistakes here, because many have taken what I said personally as well, and my argument has been, I haven used "you" ( you meaning a person) in my general comments, unless I directed it personally toward someone..
I'm not trying to ruffle feathers, but I think you might agree,, if not, I settle that we just disagree to disagree,, OK.. 
I agree with .....it's her attitude that's the problem | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 5:56:51 PM | Ah c'mon Norm...my feathers need ruffled! but yes.....I get your point...... but I get Kirota's (I think....but definately mine)..... I took it that she meant some women will have fewer choices because of their preferences....and are pizzed off because of it..and I don't see it that way. They weren't "choices" to start with if they don't have similiar views. So nothing to be pizzed off !
and I repeat......the attitude behind the post doesn't help. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 5:58:13 PM | | well the problem is I am not the one who said it. So she is referreing then to someone else. The comment you speak of was written by somene else and I copied and pasted it from their post. My writing about it is below that post. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 6:09:50 PM | msmicki I see your your point as well..
Now if I were to ruffle your feathers, I am of the opinion,, you would give me a run for my money,,
It is true, the more preferences I have, the fewer choices I will have as well,, I accept the consequences of that,, because I'm more interested in compatibility, while keeping my preferences at a higher level, that also reduces who will contact me, therefore less time is wasted on trying to find compatibility.....
edit,, kitten I remember that,, you did copy and past...and then you commented on it,, | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 6:15:55 PM | Kitten......I will apologize for misreading that one post...... (Learn to use the quotes.....then people will know what u say and what u don't!!) I see now that is was Abelian that originally said it.... looked like one post.....again my apology. I still don't agree with it!!
and I'll shut up and let Kirota speak for herself.....cuz that was probaly just tired ole me misreading that one!! | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 8:48:15 PM | Kitten.........I do apologize. I didn't realize that was a quote from someone else about being pissed........I do apologize for the remarks towards that quote.......but not about the way you post things. I myself am not a swallower, but still don't find the need to make nasty comments about those who choose to do it or if that make that a requirement to be with them. When either side has to insult the other side for doing it or not or make comments that something must be wrong with them for feeling that way about it is wrong.
Someone shouldn't have to call someone who loves to do it a slut or a selfish man nor should someone who requires it in a relationship call someone boring or names because they don't. That has always been my point in this thread.
Msmicki......thank you for defending me when I didn't read the post right.....LOL
Norm.......please don't assume people are friends because they agree on a point.......because that would mean that I hate those who I don't agree with. Which isn't the case. Msmicki and I don't always agree, but enjoy each others posts. There are some that can not agree on a point and still be "online" friends and others I agree with some of their points, but don't like them at all. So, never assume online.
Have a great night everyone. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 10:15:47 PM | I see now that is was Abelian that originally said it.... looked like one post.....again my apology. I still don't agree with it!!
I'm not sure why you don't agree. This thread would have been done if everyone had just admitted that it was a preference without trying to rationalize it. But that isn't what happened. For 37 pages, guys who said they wouldn't date a woman who didn't swallow have been bashed as misogynists, told that we taste disgusting and told we should be grateful for whatever favors a woman chooses to bestow upon us. If that isn't an attitude that says, ``I can't believe a male could be so uppity as to not date a woman who isn't compatible,'' I don't know what is. Those comments as well as the expressions of incredulity that I just wouldn't buy into those rationalizations suggest to me that a number of women in this thread didn't realize just how many men were willing to overlook them for what those women considered frivolous. The mere fact that some women considered it frivolous means they have a hard time getting the point that lots of men consider it non-frivolous enough to not date those women. | |
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| oral sex and swallowing cum and why they wont do it Posted: 1/4/2009 10:59:12 PM | Norm.......please don't assume people are friends because they agree on a point.......because that would mean that I hate those who I don't agree with. Which isn't the case. Msmicki and I don't always agree, but enjoy each others posts. There are some that can not agree on a point and still be "online" friends and others I agree with some of their points, but don't like them at all. So, never assume online. I will never make that mistake again,, as I will hope when I say something, you will not "assume" I'm talking about you... or anyone else,

nor should someone who requires it in a relationship call someone boring or names because they don't. That has always been my point in this thread. My point has always been, "if I'm" dating a woman and she doesn't enjoy giving BJ, or finds my cum disgusting, or she feels she is doing me a favor or boring in bed, as I stated before, she is star fish in my opinion,, go play star fish with some one else.. I want sexual compatibility,, "a woman who I am with" can form her own opinions about me as well,, She has that right,, and I'm all for it,,
The same would hold true is the woman I was dating was a drunk, I would say go be a drunk with someone else..
My disclaimer is, what I say is my personal opinion, and not directed towards any one person here... | |
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