| Political Correctness Posted: 10/6/2008 10:33:17 AM | I believe in political correctness, up until the point it goes barmy...
I believe in immigration-hello aging population!
I dont believe in the death penalty-everyone has the right to life... however being embarrassed in the stocks is ok to me.
Gayness-go ahead and have some fun...
Islam, same as all religions-just the fanatics that have to go...
Political correctness was introduced for a reason... and believe me, I have experienced problems being an Irish girl... who is bisexual... PC is ok by me! | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/6/2008 12:12:19 PM | There are varying degrees of intolerance - Racism being the highest level and something we all know is borne of ignorance.
Having racist tendencies is a lesser degree of intolerance but a step in the right direction or a place from where the person in posession of such tendencies can be easily pushed upwards to given the right sort of wrong information by certain sections of the British media who have particular agendas...they thrive on the ignorance of the easily led, enjoying their suggestibility and being in control of how people think (those who can't think for themselves that is)
When someone comes onto a forum and promotes 'racist ideologies' or propagates the kind of rubbish they read elsewhere re baseless and factless opinions on immigrants and refugees or puts up a thread with the express desire to bemoan one policeman's lack of interest in arresting a Portuguese man on the basis that he could easily up sticks and return home before a court date was set - it all becomes a bit obvious that certain people are either obsessed with foreign people living in their country and taking away from that country's unique culture or they just want us to be haters like themselves.
OP if you can honestly claim you don't have a racist bone in your body that's really good and I think it's nice that pink shirt guy and you have so much in common. | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/6/2008 12:59:29 PM | Im not racist, well i hope im not.......but i am well p*ssed off with the imigrants.......no matter what colour they are.......coming into my country and taking whats rightfully ours.......whether thats benefits.....housing....free shoes/milk/whatever......and especially when i see them taking the jobs and working for absolutely fcuk all when theres so many people here that cant get a job just to support their familie.......oh and now there's a rescession in the loom.......wonder who's fault that is??? Ah well maybe i am racist......but who cares!! | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/6/2008 2:45:04 PM |
Raphael, in stead of spouting your supremacist rubbish, maybe you could skip the KKK meeting once a month and go back to school to learn to read and write. It might help you to express your opinions with some semblance of rationality. So far the postings of yours that I have seen on here in various threads do rather call the BNP to mind - both as to substantive content and grunting sub-literacy.
And the first prize for "Supporting the comments of your intended target" goes to........
The OP is right! | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/6/2008 3:03:47 PM |
You PC lot throw these words about at the drop of a hat, Racism, before you imply someone is racist, look the definition up...... Fascism, As above bigot, As above Nazi, As above
Absolutely!
If people actually knew what these words mean, they'd probably never get the chance to use them. I see the most bigoted people refer to others as 'bigots', no-one on this forum can be described as being a 'fascist' unless they were alive 60 years ago and belonged to a 'fascist' organisation, and the same goes for 'Nazi'.
PC-ness is partly used to avoid 'offending' others, yet the PC crowd are usually quick to use a phrase which is intended to offend!
Makes me chuckle at their sorry, fake existence.... | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/6/2008 3:31:41 PM | When someone comes onto a forum and promotes 'racist ideologies' or propagates the kind of rubbish they read elsewhere re baseless and factless opinions on immigrants and refugees or puts up a thread with the express desire to bemoan one policeman's lack of interest in arresting a Portuguese man on the basis that he could easily up sticks and return home before a court date was set - it all becomes a bit obvious that certain people are either obsessed with foreign people living in their country and taking away from that country's unique culture or they just want us to be haters like themselves.
i totally agree with this statement having just looked through the ops last couple of months posts this thread purely came about because someone expressed an opinion on the ops previous thread "boozy britain" so what if there your opinions? i was also intrigued why you expressed more emphysis on the fact that they weren,t english rather than the incident in question ? these sort of incidents occurs through clubs through out the world by all nationalities and arn,t the brits one of the worst nations for causing trouble abroard? then you go on about people being narrow minded well excuse me but arn,t these 2 statements
You PC lot throw these words about at the drop of a hat and
It is also my opinion the PC brigade are the cause of most problems..... about as narrow minded a statement as you can get! everybody has varying degrees and thoughts on political correctness ! | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/6/2008 3:37:39 PM | I think the worlds gone slightly mad myself.. when british serviceman are sleeping on the streets and then men who were trying to kill them are claiming political asylum and being given council houses and jobs etc.
I have no problem with anyones race or religion, if they want to build a mosque and theyre paying for it let them, but if they come to this country they should abide by our rules and not get exceptions for their religion, after all they dont make any for us? saudi arabia for instance and its non alcoholic state and hands chopped off if you steal, cant see someone in one of the middle east countries getting drunk having sex on a beach and being able to say "oh its ok im british"....wait didnt some sir hostess try that? yet in this country we'd be "oh ok then no prob luv, here have a council house".
on top of all this we have to remember we invited people of different races and religions to this country to help rebuild it after the war, particularly africans and afro caribbians...
confusing subject all round really...
ive just realised i cant spell when ive been drinking red wine lol x | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/6/2008 3:41:02 PM | | Zeegary - yes I did some Roman history, I know what the fasces was. Do you? | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 12:10:36 AM | This is for the OP.
I havn't read ALL the replies... actually I havn't read any of them!
I agree that everyone should be allowed to have an opinion.... it's human nature to have an opinion. But what bugs me is when people openly express their opinion without giving evidence to back their opinion up.
For example, you say you "believe in the death penalty" - why? Will killing murderers stop people from murdering?
The Islam comment makes me laugh. Why are you specifically mentioning muslim fundamentalists? What about christian fundamentalists?
Immigration - how do you know the "country is in a mess" - did you read it in the newspapers?
If you're going to make controversial statements you should have the evidence to support them.
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 2:16:18 AM |
"PC,LIBERAL,LEFTIE" these are thrown round lightly? considering you an the other lefties on here cant stand anybody with an opinion,other than yourselves, you like shouting racist,bigot at any body who dares have an intelligent different opinion
Thanks for illustrating my point perfectly!
I am not a leftie. To the left of you maybe....
Intelligent opinions?! You can barely string a sentance together. | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 3:52:29 AM | just because someone doesn't agree with an opinion does not make them a racist a fascist, or a bigot,
I couldn't agree more.
In a lot of instances the person is simply a narrow minded ranting idiot. | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 4:23:08 AM | I think it's a shame when everyone who expresses an opinion involving the negative behaviours of specific non UK indigents is lumped in with those who really are bigoted and racist ...
I think it is perfectly reasonable to dislike a certain person and their behaviour no matter what nationality/race/creed/religion/colour/sexual orientation/ability level/ whatever ... We cannot like everybody all the time ..
To put somebody who expresses a specific problem with a specific person and a specific incident in the same category as someone who screams blue murder as soon as the words immigration and or foreign appear is taking political correctness to an unneeded extreme and does as much damage as those who want their version of an Aryan utopia ...
If someone is being a bloody idiot and they happen to be foreign, then they are no less deserving of being called an idiot because of the fear of the accuser being called racist..
Stupidity is the true bringer together of all humanity ... | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 4:26:13 AM |
you like shouting racist,bigot at any body who dares have an intelligent different opinion
I don't think anyone would shout "Racist bigot" at an intelligent different opinion. The problem is that many of your 'different opinions' are racist and bigoted. | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 5:15:24 AM |
To put somebody who expresses a specific problem with a specific person and a specific incident in the same category as someone who screams blue murder as soon as the words immigration and or foreign appear is taking political correctness to an unneeded extreme and does as much damage as those who want their version of an Aryan utopia ... Not if you place their comments in context with other similar comments they've made and you are aware of a pattern forming.
If someone is being a bloody idiot and they happen to be foreign, then they are no less deserving of being called an idiot because of the fear of the accuser being called racist.. ..that's a bit simplistic. Is it actually politically correct to call anybody an Idiot ?
There might be mitigating circumstances as to why an idiot has found themselves in a position where they have ended up behaving like an idiot but it's often easier to judge an idiot and his/her behaviour when you say that idiot was foreign, it puts a new inflection on the story of the idiot's idiocy and raises the heckles of the sort of readers who read "foreign" as a bad bad word and like to blame the downfall of their nation on those 'bloody immigrants' all the time. | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 6:52:51 AM | Just as an aside, I wonder if it is common for those of a different nationality to do the same thing as some of us unwittingly do and separate ourselves by being simply ( sometimes) descriptive ...
I tend to call other people by whatever is immediately noticeable about their appearance .. Never intending to be discriminatory .. Such as ..umm the woman with the really long black hair .. The guy with a wart on the end of his nose ... If they are caucasion!!! ... I simply don't think to call them the white woman/ guy because it is no different to me... I have in the past and still do describe people I am talking about by their nationality/colour if they have no other obvious distinguishing feature and even then I am still guilty of the fact.. Never meaning to be offensive but I probably could be seen as being so .. Now do other nationalities/colours do the same thing about us?
Do mainland Europeans when on a night out describe countrymen as being that big guy/ blonde girl, yet describe us as that English/ British bloke ( not sure if they would differentiate between the home countries? ) ?
Do Black/ Asian whomever describe us as the white woman/man yet would use something more personal when describing one of their own colour?
I confess I am guilty of doing this.. Is this racist? I never intend to be offensive but I guess thinking about it, it could be construed as being such and most definitely non PC ?? | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 7:06:06 AM | Well I always describe you as that one/third or is it one/eight part aboriginal giantess to everybody I talk about you to..
does that make me a racist or anti-giant ladies/men too
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I don't actually discuss you with anybody ...I am being facetious in response to your facetiousness.. | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 7:28:10 AM | pantsonfire, no of course its not racist.
The PC idea that it was somehow wrong to use the term "black" is what led to the ridiculous (and arguably offensive) term "coloured" to come into use. | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 7:47:26 AM | Msg 51, I see no inappropriate jocularity in my postings???
My heritage is far more diverse than just my grandfather ...
I guess those that decide they dislike you because of an opinion posted on here are just as narrow minded as those they purport to loathe ... There is no leeway given ...
You are what they say you are because they say so... | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 7:49:40 AM | to the very well educated person who doesnt know this land is in a mess, funny enough we are the most densely populated country in europe,
i wonder why with the coward party in, an now there wasting 8 million of eu money in africa to open a job centre for them to find jobs in europe, probally means uk,as the french an germans signed a treaty NOT to take immigrants an the coward party refused to sign it, also a backdoor way of them sending there failed asylum seekers back with non exsistent jobs to claim our benefits. | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 7:50:33 AM |
Do mainland Europeans when on a night out describe countrymen as being that big guy/ blonde girl, yet describe us as that English/ British bloke ( not sure if they would differentiate between the home countries? ) ?
Do Black/ Asian whomever describe us as the white woman/man yet would use something more personal when describing one of their own colour?
I confess I am guilty of doing this.. Is this racist? I never intend to be offensive but I guess thinking about it, it could be construed as being such and most definitely non PC ??
No Pants, not racist at all. You are describing somone in the easiest terms you find. I am the little Scottish one with the big gob usually when I am being described lol. | |
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| Political Correctness * Posted: 10/7/2008 8:21:54 AM | i wonder why with the coward party in, an now there wasting 8 million of eu money in africa to open a job centre for them to find jobs in europe, probally means uk,as the french an germans signed a treaty NOT to take immigrants an the coward party refused to sign it, also a backdoor way of them sending there failed asylum seekers back with non exsistent jobs to claim our benefits.
this isn't a cheap shot - but I don't understand what you're saying.
I don't want to get into a discussion about the pros and cons of immigration. The OP was talking about political correctness.
Essentially, the issue is about RESPECT. Being respectful, and tolerant. You shouldn't get so wound up about language (ie not knowing whether to call someone black/white etc etc). If you are genuinely respectful to your fellow human then he/she wouldn't really mind what you called him/her.
I probably sound like a hippy, but meh! :) | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 8:22:52 AM | | a spade is a spade . i hate political correctness its freedom of speech , your always going to offend someone so just say it like it is . | |
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| Political Correctness Posted: 10/7/2008 8:27:40 AM | | I hate political correctness end of story, no ones going to tell me what to say or how to say it. | |
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