| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/7/2008 4:09:03 PM | blackboards aren't in schools because they're crap. not 'cus they're called "black"boards!
and who's complaining about ba ba blacksheep?
where are all you people reading this rubbish from?
once again, LMAO!
edit: i wasn't meaning to be rude... sorry if it came across that way.... it's just that it's the first time i've heard that blackboards are racist lol. | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/8/2008 1:50:24 AM |
"Political Correctness" = tolerance.
I disagree.
PC is the opposite of tolerance.
Tolerance is "putting up with that you despise."
I am one of the most tolerant people I know, because I have quite a bit to put up with! Those who are PC do not tolerate the way that others use our language, especially when it comes to adjectives regarding the person.
BTW Has anyone read a copy of White Echoes, the magazine devoted to music by white rock groups?
Me neither........ | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/9/2008 5:09:12 PM |
Im not racist, well i hope im not.......but i am well p*ssed off with the imigrants.......no matter what colour they are.......coming into my country and taking whats rightfully ours.......whether thats benefits.....housing....free shoes/milk/whatever......and especially when i see them taking the jobs and working for absolutely fcuk all when theres so many people here that cant get a job just to support their familie.......oh and now there's a rescession in the loom.......wonder who's fault that is???
Ah well maybe i am racist......but who cares!!
The above is a fairly good example of the outrageous disgusting diatribe and rhetoric we should all do our best to minimalise...the author of that post is obviously an ignoramus and an embarrassment to any fellow Irish men or women who post on here in good faith... | |
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Posted: 10/9/2008 9:09:36 PM | Q. If a****ey calls a Scotsman a "Sweaty Sock" is he being racist or expressing his own culture by using rhyming slang?
Is it then politically correct to ban the phrase to appease the Scot or correct to allow the phrase as it was part of the****ey's culture?
Either way someone could be offended. | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/9/2008 9:56:09 PM | haha!! I didn't even know that's what we were called in rhyming slang....I can think of one or two Scots who would suite the name though (not myself, I wash my socks ) | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/9/2008 11:41:10 PM |
I.e A friend of mine works in the caring profession and is not allowed to call a person suffering with diabetes ......diabetic as they view that as you are seeing someone as a diabetic and not a person !!! that's rubbish. you are allowed to call patients with diabetes diabetics! i don't know where your friend got this idea from..... lmao edit: evidence = NICE guidelines on diabetes :)
As someone who has had an awful lot to do with Diabetes, (my brother had it for over 20 years). He was never described as 'the Diabetic', he was always described as 'the patient with Diabetes'.. This is because the guidelines state that the person should not be defined by their illness as it is dehumanising, the same as calling a child with Downs Syndrome an Downs baby .. You are turning the person into a specimen of the disease/disability they are afflicted with... Guidelines state that the patient comes first and the affliction second, so they should always be described as, the patient who has Diabetes/ whatever ...
HTH | |
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Posted: 10/10/2008 2:48:51 PM | I'm probably away to be shot down in flames here but hey as it keeps getting repeated FREEDOM OF SPEECH
While you make your opinion on Islamic and Muslum extremists while I don't agree with the way they try to make their point, they along with every other nationality that doesn't have white skin has every right to be p*ssed off because if my history serves me right they have been getting bombarded throughout time that they are inferior due to their skin colour, belief system and generally how they choose to live.
Who has the credentials to say one particular way is right or wrong.
If people paid more attention to trying to understand other belief systems instead of trying to find fault because it's not what you believe then maybe the world would be slightly more peaceful.
The likes of George Bush and Tony Blair and most most politians actually have proved to all of us that just because certain rulers of certain countries didn't govern the way they do they thought they had the right to poke their nose in and now look at the mess we're in.
Yes everyone is entitled to an opinion but do you have the right to enforce it on others? | |
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Posted: 10/10/2008 3:16:51 PM | I think partof the problem is that the terminology and language used by the 'PC' brigade is designed to obfuscate and dilute. So we no longer have 'blind' people but 'visually impaired' - which is me reading and blind (whoops) as a bat without my specs... it is confusing and used to 'beat up' people.
But here's another 'PC' idea - Norway has recently invoked a law it passed 6 years ago - requiring company boards to have at least 40% females on them. Spain's passed the law - it comes into effect in 10 years. So is it a bad idea? Probably long term, yes, boards should be based on talent (what went wrong there in the banking system then?). But as a short-term measure - say for 10 years - I actually think it's a good way of bringing in some much needed social change. | |
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Posted: 10/11/2008 3:27:15 AM | | Post 96....Poeples from other countries and skin colurs have throughout history talked of "our" ways of life are wrong also...Racism works both ways...And I am sick to the back teeth of political correctness, it has breeded a contemptual attitude to others who don't think as they do...Something the Nazi's done... | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/11/2008 3:39:05 AM | prefer freedom of speech also, would never dream of calling the police if some guy slandered / swore / called me nasty names etc me in public, like one of the earlier posters have done, quite sure that they have better things to do 
different cultures have different values, if people want to come to this country, they should accept our values and not try to impose their own
no-one has forced anyone to come all the way across europe (safe haven) to England, so it can't be all that bad
but for councils to ban xmas for possibly offending muslims or other religious groups is the left wing PC brigade going too far as per usual | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/11/2008 5:07:50 PM | would never dream of calling the police if some guy slandered / swore / called me nasty names etc me in public, like one of the earlier posters have done, quite sure that they have better things to do
reply:
well it was a choice of a friendly quiet warning,or a smack in the face.more police time would of been wasted if they had to come out to an assault.prevention is better than correction. | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/11/2008 5:51:19 PM | How's about this for PC'ness...
Many of the people on here don't deserve to find anyone at all let alone someone special.
Never in my life have I come across such a bunch of boring, inane, vacuous, cowardly morons! Many of my female friends report the same of the males so it's not a mysoginist rant...
Certainely the people on the forums tend to be a cut above - but I seem to be faced with the dilema that unless a woman looks alike the back end of a bus, she usually has a personality to rival someone under general anasthetic.
Right I'[ll go back to being polite and diplomatic now.... | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 5:13:15 AM | Political correctness = tolerance???? How the hell did anyone come to that conclusion???
Political correctness is an enforced censorship of natural speech and behaviour patterns that alienates a great deal of the population. Things such as a "black coffee" being called an "Americano" for fear of offending "people of colour". I have never been refused service or been asked "what's that?" when asking for a white coffee from a person who was not of the lightest or darkest of skin.
Other examples such as schools not being allowed a nativity play (this has happened but I can't be bothered to look up where) is political correctness at its absolute worst. It is simply a way of turning the UK into an asexual, cultureless, colourless boring society in the name of appeasing a very small minority who will cry RACE at everything in the hope that they get some pity and maybe a little preferencial treatment to which they are not entitled.
Other examples include the Met Police having targets for recruiting ethnic minorities. This is a rediculous state of affairs when the whole point of the police is to have the best people possible protecting the general population from law breakers. Surely recruiting by race is actually a racist act in itself and therefore against the law? How long before we have the first person claiming compensation for not being hired because they are "white"?
If anti-race/immigrant/disability policing were left to the greater population I think it would be much more effective than the PC brigade shouting their nonsensical mouths off. MORAL correctness is the way to go. | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 6:05:23 AM | Well well, look at who is complaining about poiltical correctness - not just the last one or two, but roll back over a lot of the thread...
Now I hate PC for the sake of it - not being allowed to say "Merry Christmas" (Yes, actually happend to my step-daughter who was then quite a mover and shaker in Intel), but there is a big difference between the silly things and the serious ones.
One should in general be careful not to hurt the feelings of others, and be aware of the overtones of one's words - for example the derivation of "handicap" and the wisdom of saying "disabled" in stead.
But one does get the impression that a lot of the ranters on this thread are just itching to get teh N-word out, but can't quite yet dare to do so. | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/12/2008 8:35:37 AM | There's another issue - one of basic human rights - to be able to live, work interact and debate without bias against race, sex, age etc... one of the best things to happen in the last century was the Human Rights Act.
As for left-wingers curtailing freedom of speech - both right wing and left wing bigots want to do that - and do when they are allowed. But freedom of speech shouldn't include the facility to pour prejudice on people because of their colour or ethnic origin - simply because it's non-democratic. | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 8:52:00 AM | The human rights act is a different kettle of fish and another one that, despite great intentions, has become a complete shambles and has led to far too many court cases.
I agree that everyone should be able to live in a world where race, religion, sex, age, anything that can possibly differ between 2 human beings is irrelevant and doesn't lead to discrimination of any kind. This will only happen through education and time as all sections of society become more tolerant and accepting of each other. Political Correctness is NOT the way to go. It draws attention to differences and creates a divide where none may have existed in the first place. Racism is on the decline, as is religious hatred. There are no major religious wars these days with one religion trying to wipe out the other. When incidents of racism occur they get more coverage in the media telling everyone how wrong it is which, despite their sensationalistic nature, has to be applauded. As a reasonably intelligent person I don't need to be told by a group of civil servants that I shouldn't use derogatory language when talking to someone different to me, it's my natural way and I'll make my own judgements of people from what I find out about them, not because I am told I have to judge someone a particular way.
PS: I'm getting REALLY bored of the "most densely populated" arguement now...... | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 9:48:38 AM | Freedom of speech....That is a real joke, well it would be if it wasn't so serious...If we where actually "allowed" to say as we feel...I am sure there would be outcry against EVERYONE and their views...As racism, like the feminism thread...
When a white person says gollywogs, it's racism...
When a black person says in a very public advertisement "look at the lobsters" showing white people sunburnt, it's a laugh....
When (British) white people say anything which questions Islam and it's views, it's racism...
When Arabs (or even wannabes) muslims scream "hang all british/cut their heads off", or even the label they give "us" as in Kafir (say that in South Africa and jeez!!) then it's "poor oppressed"...
The world is polictically correctly upside down and it GET'S ON MY FKIN NERVES....
I have witnessed one person defend a nation, yet in another thread lambast that nation...I actually think some people come on here simply to argue...Infact, I have a leftie tree hugger friend who is like that, just get's into political discussions and no matter the issue, he just disagrees for the sake of it...A bit like PC tree hugging leftie donuts....
Ahhh..I feel better now, glass of red anyone....
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Posted: 10/12/2008 10:01:03 AM | THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT IS THE BIGGEST pile of crap going
No it's not.... the idea behind it is sound..... everyone regardless of race sexuality or nationality has the right to be treated with respect..... The problem with the act it's self is it is open to abuse and is frequently used to protect the rights of those who know how to use it to there advantage.
as for pouring prejudice on peoples colour or ethnics groups ive 1 thing to say about that,we are the most densely populated country in Europe because of the lax way this coward goverment has let our borders go an letting in all these scroungers, ie the immigrant with a million+ house for nothing, so racism is rife because of woolly liberal
Just out of curiosity we maybe the most densely populated country in Europe.. but just what has that got to do with someones ethnicity, or race?..... Look I am not a huge fan of Political Correctness.... Christ I started this thread.... dude.... that's not nice... Scroungers... fair enough they shouldn't be entitled to benefits as non UK nationals.... but I will say a lot of British Nationals shouldn't be entitled to them either, and should get of their arses and go work, hell even if it is picking strawberrys.... people complain about immigrants coming in and working, they work I will say that for them.....
Racism is caused through narrow minded people both left and right wing..... it's caused through those left wing ninny's who take offense at green snot given half a chance in the hope of curtailing any offensive remarks even if the remarks have no offense in them... to the right wing idiot who see anything of a different race or nationalty as less then they are.....
PC isn't about race religion sexualty.... it's about curtailing free speach, it's about not offending anyone.... problem is by trying not to offend anyone you end up offending everyone. | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 11:40:02 AM | Anything the powers to be pass to us as a good idea that will serve us well as a nation is inevitably going to be spun on it,s axis & used to oppress us European Economic Community...yeah seemed like a good idea at the time & it was....till they start telling us bananas are bent too much?can,t call Eccles Cakes --Eccles Cakes unless theyr,e actually made in Eccles? farmers sell plain old sprouts now..cos they don,t grow them in Brussels...Gollywogs/blackboards/baa-baa black sheep..all done away with by the good old P.C brigade...someone mentioned Boot-camps earlier in the thread something i agree with strongly..might not cure everything but let,s see how tough the knife/gun carriers are when dealing with a 6ft ex Marine/Para..but no P.C Human Rights Brigade will fight tooth & nail to protect the rights of the wrong-doers..Racism..Enoch Powell was berated for his rivers of blood speech...he has been proved right..in as much as we are being dictated to by the very races we allowed entry to & if the fanatics aren,t reigned in they will create those rivers of blood..but no Freedom of Speach Act..until recently..has allowed them to air their anti-western views openly..try calling them golliwogs & you get arrested!.....I have never deemed myself to be racist/anti semetic..or anything of that Ilk but I do sometimes feel that enough is enough & the P.C/Human Rights/Anti Racism lot should go back to what they should be doing...protect the rights of the lawful residents of this now green.ish but now septic Isle************got that off my chest | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/12/2008 2:38:03 PM | Why is there no "White African" in the ethnic categories in application forms?
Can ye have White Africans?
Is it possible?
btw...One day, my daughters best friend said "you can't be African, your white".... | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 2:43:55 PM | There are a lot of white South Africans..... and there are a lot of white people in Zimbabwe
I want that bit about ethnic origin removed from all job aplications!!! Bullpoo is it to see what demographic is applying for jobs or whatever excuse they come up with..... | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/12/2008 3:38:43 PM |
the Human Rights Act gives us all some statutory basic rights we never had before, including the right not to suffer bigotted prejudice - and it extends to those Brits.
'Prejudice' is entirely the fault of the target group.
We have just had a thread about the ghurkas, in which 100% of the posters admired these as both men and soldiers.
This is because of our experience of them.
We have also had various threads about other races in which the group in question received mixed reviews. This is because some people (both here and in real life) have had less than impressive encounters with these races. Whose fault was that?
Why is it that Africans living in this country are not universally welcomed? You cannot blame the Brits for having negative views when the group in question is the source of this negativity.
So, next time someone perceives a post as being 'bigotted', perhaps they should look as to the reasons behind that 'bigotry'?
What the Human Rights Act does is protect BASICS.
The HRA protects criminals. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 1:10:21 AM | The Human Rights act is designed to protect EVERYONE - and in that it provides basic rights to criminals (as it does to orphans and people's dear old grans). Do you advocate torture in jails etc?
The reason for some of the stupidity we see regarding prisoners rights and the excessive things granted to some criminals isn't the Human Rights Act - it's how some of the loony PC Brigade interpret the Human Rights Act - and avaricious Solicitors and Barristers looking for a way to make a greasy few thousand quid. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 1:16:05 AM |
it's how some of the loony PC Brigade interpret the Human Rights Act - and avaricious Solicitors and Barristers looking for a way to make a greasy few thousand quid.
Which is precisely my point!
How many times do we see a defence lawyer advocate the defence of punishing their client would be an infringement of their human rights? The fact that they have committed the crime in question seems irrelevant. | |
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| Political Correctness
Posted: 10/13/2008 3:30:06 AM |
till they start telling us bananas are bent too much?can,t call Eccles Cakes --Eccles Cakes unless theyr,e actually made in Eccles? farmers sell plain old sprouts now..cos they don,t grow them in Brussels...Gollywogs/blackboards/baa-baa black sheep..all done away with by the good old P.C brigade...
blackboards!?
Is this tongue in cheek or do you really think this is all true?!
There is some PC madness going on, no doubt - but there is also some serious exaggeration! | |
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