I can compile a very long list of Obama associates including a Palistinian terrorist that has donated to Obama. But I won't.

I think this issue is republicans being convinced this should be a solid issue they can nail to the wall but it's Jello.

Actually that is where you may be wrong.In the state of Ohio, they have same day voting and Voter fraud is probable.

McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time

crap

Records and news sources prove it is NOT crap. Denial is not a river in Egypt

• Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.

He has denounced voter fraud by ACORN or anyone else

Well, at least obama is smart enough not to confess. After two years of the dem's in control of congress, they have wrecked the economy. Now they want to put a socialist in as president. All I can think of now, is come quickly Lord, come quickly........

This gives partial account as to why we are where we are today geeleebee. And no, it's not all the Democrats fault. But Nancy Pelosi is an out and out deceitful liar.

I've often wondered, of all the people we could have had running for President, how could we end up with these two? How much worse could it get?

Well, I believe that Obama is a very scary individual and his brand of change is socialism.

Of course socialism isn't so bad for people who don't have much. Probably it may make their lives better. But it also takes away their ability to have more in life than they do currently. And those who have aspired to have more, will have less and lose the ability to aspire through hard work and achievement. We will all be cast into a dungeon of stale, tasteless sameness with no aspirations that once was offered by the home of the brave and land of the free.

So even though they all lie, you know McCain is no Bush and you know what to expect out of McCain and that's why I'm voting for him.

You don't find Republicans dishing out an eighth of the propaganda that the Democrats and it's constituents are right now. They are stooping lowest of low and are stopping at nothing to gain control of the Presidency so that they have a monopoly on the government. That is very scary to me, especially with their socialist and anti free market/capitolist agenda. There will be no more freedom of the brave and no more checks and balances. It will be intrusive pervasion of government into every individual's life. Much worse than it is currently.

But I agree that they all lie, like who's at fault for the Patriot Act. Dem's and Rep's alike voted it into law through both the House and Senate. Bush penned it into law. If it was so bad, why did the Democrats not vote it down, both in 2001 and again in 2006? Could it be that they knew that it was helping to squelch actual terroristic activity within the borders of our country? I wonder...

This economic disaster is far from being solely Bush's fault. Nearly as much money has been spent on the welfare of illegal aliens as has been spent on the war in Iraq. And that doesn't count a myriad of other bureacratic programs, many of which are espoused by liberal congressional members.

Just trying to set the record straight and show that Obama may just be the more dangerous Presidential hopeful at this time of our lives.

I've often wondered, of all the people we could have had running for President, how could we end up with these two? How much worse could it get?

Well, I believe that Obama is a very scary individual and his brand of change is socialism.

This is such a non-story. They hired low income individuals for voter registration drives, and some of these people faked doing their work. This is not "voter fraud". Nobody has "voted"; the election hasn't happened yet and these faked people were never going to vote.

What assault are you talking about Obsidian? The only civil liberty that I can see being construed as assaulted is the right of privacy by the Patriot Act. But I've yet to hear of one person who has expressed that that right has been unjustly infringed upon.

Keep tryin' there...while Obama's lead widens by the day.

Ideologically I'm a Libertarian more in sync with Ron Paul and a strict contructionist.

.Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992

By Hank De Zutter
December 8, 1995

… Another strong supporter of Obama’s work–as an organizer, as a lawyer, and now as a candidate–is Madeline Talbott, lead organizer of the feisty ACORN community organization, a group that’s a thorn in the side of most elected officials. “I can’t repeat what most ACORN members think and say about politicians. But Barack has proven himself among our members. He is committed to organizing, to building a democracy. Above all else, he is a good listener, and we accept and respect him as a kindred spirit, a fellow organizer.”

Obama continues his organizing work largely through classes for future leaders identified by ACORN and the Centers for New Horizons on the south side. Conducting a session in a New Horizons classroom, Obama, tall and thin, looks very much like an Ivy League graduate student. Dressed casually prep, his tie loosened and his top shirt button unfastened, he leads eight black women from the Grand Boulevard community through a discussion of “what folks should know” about who in Chicago has power and why they have it. It’s one of his favorite topics, and the class bubbles with suggestions about how “they” got to be high and mighty…"

"Slow down now. You're going too fast now," says Obama. "I want to break this down. We talk 'they, they, they' but don't take the time to break it down. We don't analyze. Our thinking is sloppy. And to the degree that it is, we're not going to be able to have the impact we could have. We can't afford to go out there blind, hollering and acting the fool, and get to the table and don't know who it is we're talking to--or what we're going to ask them--whether it's someone with real power or just a third-string flak catcher."
Later Obama gets to another favorite topic--the lack of collective action among black churches. "All these churches and all these pastors are going it alone. And what do we have? These magnificent palatial churches in the midst of the ruins of some of the most run-down neighborhoods we'll ever see. All pastors go on thinking about how they are going to 'build my church,' without joining with others to try to influence the factors or forces that are destroying the neighborhoods. They start food pantries and community-service programs, but until they come together to build something bigger than an effective church all the community-service programs, all the food pantries they start will barely take care of even a fraction of the community's problems."

"In America," Obama says, "we have this strong bias toward individual action. You know, we idolize the John Wayne hero who comes in to correct things with both guns blazing. But individual actions, individual dreams, are not sufficient. We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations."