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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/15/2008 10:43:28 PM |
oh really?? I cant believe this is legal.
Thats because he wasn't serious. | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 3:48:27 AM | "In just the last week, we've had a phoney stunt raid in swing state Nevada (where Acorn had been cooperating with officials for months, concerning problem canvassers they'd long ago fired); a Republican election official in swing state Missouri tell Fox News that she's being beseiged with fraudulent registration forms from Acorn (in a county where they've not done any registration work since August); a Republican sheriff in swing state Ohio, who, the very next day, suddenly requested the names and addresses of hundreds of early voters (with evidence of exactly zero wrong doing, but lots of Democratic-leaning college student in the particular county, and John McCain's state campaign chair as a partner in the investigation); and a screaming front page headline in Rupert Murdoch's New York Post about a guy who claims he was somehow tricked by Acorn into registering 72 times (but read the article closely to note he says he registered at the same address each time, which, even if true, would allow him - you guessed it - precisely one legal vote.)"
I can't determine if some people are being delibrately obtuse or if they are just that naive. The purpose of the massive voter registration fraud is to flood the system with too many voter registration cards to process before the election.Take Ohio for instance,With same day voting registration and voting the registration cannot be confirmed and with the Sec. of State refusing to give the neccessary info to confirm the registration voter fraud is not only possible but LIKELY.In Ohio,No ID is required just show up with a registration card and vote. Once again we see certain liberals defending the undefendable. | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 4:14:33 AM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ A federal court has now ruled that the election commish in ohio(a democrat) has to review the registrations and confirm them before the elections in Ohio take place. They also have to use verifiable identification. Finally a Federal court with common sense!!! http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/14/federal-court-ohio-must-check-voter-registrations/ | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 4:37:49 AM |
A federal court has now ruled that the election commish in ohio(a democrat) has to review the registrations and confirm them before the elections in Ohio take place. They also have to use verifiable identification. Finally a Federal court with common sense!!!
Finally, 666000 newly registered voters may have their votes suppressed. Republicans may steal this yet! | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 7:04:37 AM | ^^^^^^^yup not being able to vote as many times as you wish is definately suppression of the worst kind  | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 7:10:21 AM | | You mean ACORN may have their voter registrations suppressed due to fraudulent voter registration signups. To say the rep may steal it, because they want to have those fraudulent voter registration signups Investigated is extremely laughable considering what ACORN has done. The only group trying to steal anything is ACORN, lets be real. I mean hell; I didn't even know Mickey Mouse or any other fictional cartoon characters were even allowed to register to vote at all, let alone real. Who knew? | |
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dmotz
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 7:55:13 AM | | Once again...Some would rather have 666000 registrations checked out and hopefully cleared of any fraud so the people can vote. I really get a charge out of the wacked out lefties in here screaming that ACORN is a great group and would never do such a thing...ha ha...there is proof beyond doubt that the left and ACORN are bed mates..trying to steal an election. I want ALL voter fraud...regardless of party doing it...to stop..I would love to see a fair election and the winner be supported by the people...no matter who it is. | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 9:31:45 AM | McCain proved that Obama, while working for the woods foundation gave away 230,000 to ACORN. Then Pelosi,Reid and Franks,Obama and others,placed a porker in the bailout bill of 20 million dollars for guess who?? ACORN!!!!! Audacity??? Darn right! Did they know what ACORN was doing?? OH yes!!! | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 9:40:45 AM | The quote above was made in jest followed by the quote below oops.. I didnt catch that, my bad.
Finally, 666000 newly registered voters may have their votes suppressed. Republicans may steal this yet! This is called irony.
Let me see if I'm understanding this... You're upset because these (allegedly) illegal votes don't count?
Wouldn't that be 'stealing the election' if they counted? | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 10:13:24 AM |
According to the Associated Press, around one in every three newly registered Ohio voters will end up on court-ordered lists being sent to county election boards because they have some discrepancy in their records, an elections spokesman said Wednesday. Brunner said that an initial review found that about 200,000 newly registered voters reported information that did not match motor-vehicle or Social Security records, Brunner spokesman Kevin Kidder said.
Some discrepancies could be as simple as a misspelling, while others could be more significant. Brunner said she'll urge counties not to force these people to use provisional ballots. About 666,000 Ohioans have registered to vote since January.
http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=37630
So, of the 666,000 newly registered voters, 200,000 have some sort of discrepancy from a minor misspelling to something more. This would mean that contrary to what some are posting here, all newly registered voters are being checked.
Obama/Biden 2008!  | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 12:13:26 PM | | Personally I would never cheer for anyone that commits voter fraud. Especially a candidate that gave the frauds over 200,000 dollars. That makes him a co-conspiritor in my book. | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 12:37:08 PM | | My guess is the voter fraud is being committed by individuals that were hired to make Acorn look bad, Since Acorn is a bi partisan affiliation I wonder how many they register in each of the political parties and if their is a way to see what party the fraudulent registrations are being filled out by and to which party the registers belong too | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 2:01:08 PM | The Obama-Biden campaign broke their pledge to accept public financing during the general election. Now it turns out they padded their coffers with contributions from “mystery” donors that don’t exist (as reported by Newsweek). On the heels of that the ACORN thing. What next?
This is one loooong election year. I cant wait for it to be over.
p.s. [Earl says: My guess is the voter fraud is being committed by individuals that were hired to make Acorn look bad]
Thanks for the laugh, Earl.
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 2:07:51 PM |
This is one loooong election year. I cant wait for it to be over.
I believe all the polls show that 100% of all the people in the entire world agree with that. I think even all 5 dentists are on board. | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 5:52:33 PM | I agree wholeheartedly that we will be glad when this election is over. I hope I don't have to join a revolution then, but who knows? Oh and Thanks for the Laugh Earl. | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/16/2008 9:30:46 PM | [Now it turns out they padded their coffers with contributions from “mystery” donors that don’t exist (as reported by Newsweek)]
Oh yes, but it's all right for McCain to accept dubious donations from these people,
[http://dailykos.com/ McCain Pals Around With A War Profiteer by BarbinMD Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 05 11 PM PDT Well, this is embarrassing: The Democratic chairman of a House investigative committee presented documents to the Pentagon on Thursday alleging that a top Republican fund-raiser, Harry Sargeant III, has made tens of millions of dollars in profits over the last four years because his contracting company vastly overcharged for deliveries of fuel to American air bases in Iraq. Mr. Sargeant, who is the finance chairman of the Florida Republican Party and a major fund-raiser for Senator John McCain, did not immediately return several messages left for him on Thursday, but in the past he has denied any improprieties on the part of the the company, International Oil Trading Company, known as I.O.T.C. [...] Mr. Sargeant is one of several dozen people who are listed on Senator McCain’s web site as raising $500,000 or more for him. He was the host of a fundraiser for Mr. McCain at his mansion in Delray Beach, Fla., this year. Sargeant, you may remember, is the McCain bundler who managed to get donations for McCain from some very unlikely sources: The bundle of $2,300 and $4,600 checks that poured into Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign on March 12 came from an unlikely group of California donors: a mechanic from D&D Auto Repair in Whittier, the manager of Rite Aid Pharmacy No. 5727, the 30-something owners of the Twilight Hookah Lounge in Fullerton.... Some of the most prolific givers in Sargeant's network live in modest homes in Southern California's Inland Empire. Most had never given a political contribution before being contacted by Sargeant or his associates. Most said they have never voiced much interest in politics. And in several instances, they had never registered to vote. And yet, records show, some families have ponied up as much as $18,400 for various candidates between December and March..... Wow. Making millions off the backs of our soldiers serving in Iraq, screwing over the American taxpayer, and collecting money from "regular Joe's" with the help of a shadowy Jordanian businessman...John McCain certainly pals around with some interesting characters, doesn't he? And it also raises a question that was asked but never answered in August: If there were a group of questionable donations all with the name Abdullah that were funneled through a guy in Jordan who is a Jordanian national who is under investigation for war profiteering and it were Barack Obama instead of John McCain would this be a bigger deal?]
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/17/2008 2:43:14 AM | Msg 164,165, 167 I am extremely happy to have provided you with a laugh, laughter is after all the best medicine it gets your sugar up which starts the cycle that ends up producing and releasing serotonin also known as the bodies feel good drug
Oh and Thanks for the Laugh Earl.
As much as it pains me to get down in the mud with the McCain/Palin campaign advisers (did anyone else notice that both of thier names end in "in" ) I suspect that because of the way they have adviced Senator McCain to run his campaign that they are probaby very capable of hiring moles or is that trolls to work for Acorn and falseify registerations, maybe Senator McCain is innocent just a by stander, their could be powers that we can not even see beind the scenes
I hope I am wrong I have no sources other then just this terrible feeling based on my gut reaction after watching the McCain/Palin commercials and the overall tone and focus of their campaign | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/17/2008 4:12:38 AM | Well on the flip side of the Daily KoS blog comes this World Net Daily Article:
Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama's campaign.
Donations of this nature would violate election laws, including prohibitions on receiving contributions from foreigners and guidelines against accepting more than $2,300 from one individual during a single election, Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission, told WND in response to a query.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71431
Same question on the flip side. If McCain were recieving this kind of donation, would the liberal Democrats not be all over it? | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/17/2008 4:29:09 AM | I think folks need to get real. The Daily kos is a left leaning liberal rag of lies. The right has a few sites like that also...Get your information from real legit sources or live in the lie. Acorn is losing their fed backed dollars and this could not happen to a better group! Talk about a waste of taxpayer money! | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/17/2008 4:35:00 AM |
Acorn is losing their fed backed dollars and this could not happen to a better group! Talk about a waste of taxpayer money!
Yah geeze, getting people to register and vote. I mean good god, you might reverse that slide towards record poor voter turn out!
I mean seriously, does anybody have any indication ANYWERE that ACORN hasn't cooperated in full? That ACORN has actually indulged in any crime as an organization? That ACORN has resulted in any cases of voter fraud?
ACORNs sin in the eyes of Republicans is that it gets poor people. Undermining the very foundation of democracy by getting people with darker skin registered.
I mean do you know how hard it is to purge voter rolls over and over and over again? It's tiring being a Republican, these people don't just disanfranchise themselves you know! | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/17/2008 4:42:39 AM | | Come on Chuck...I guess you have not noticed that it has been DEMOCRATS who have went after ACORN...look at the states involved and the Democrats with the balls to go after them...except Ohio where the Dem in charge is still trying to get 200,000 registrations to pass muster...lol | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/17/2008 4:45:22 AM |
Come on Chuck...I guess you have not noticed that it has been DEMOCRATS who have went after ACORN...look at the states involved and the Democrats with the balls to go after them...except Ohio where the Dem in charge is still trying to get 200,000 registrations to pass muster...lol
I made a challenge, take it, or admit you don't have any evidence. | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/17/2008 5:12:59 AM | Here ya go Chuckie..evidence... I can hear you now...but...but... You blame Bush for what the people under him do...why not use that example for everyone? So tell me Charles just who is responsible for all the voter registration fraud? I would think that ACORN is...so do many DEMOCRAT state attorney generals..like Nevada's...
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/10-13-2004/0002275937&EDATE
WASHINGTON, Oct. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- A Florida state attorney is investigating thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registrations associated with the leading organizer of Florida's Amendment 5 ballot initiative. But this is just the tip of an iceberg of illegalities, fraud and contradictions connected to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). In recent days, ACORN has been at the epicenter of reports on thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registrations across the nation -- including many by ex-felons -- submitted by ACORN employees in the presidential swing states of Ohio, Colorado, Missouri Pennsylvania, New Mexico and Minnesota. The Employment Policies Institute has updated and re-released its report, "The Real ACORN: Anti-Employee, Anti-Union, Big Business" with the latest details on ACORN's involvement in what appears to be widespread voter registration fraud. The report includes statements from former ACORN employees on the illegal nature of the organization's promotion of the ballot initiative to raise Florida's minimum wage to $6.15 per hour. "This report reveals ACORN's pattern and practice of deception and fraud," said EPI research director Craig Garthwaite. "The latest allegations of widespread voter registration fraud should prove to be the last of ACORN's nine political lives." Former ACORN Miami-Dade field director Mac Stuart has declared an intent to sue ACORN and has made charges of rampant voter fraud operations. Stuart was employed and specifically tasked by ACORN to generate 103,000 new voter registrations from Dade County. He reports that ACORN threw out Republican registrations while paying for Democratic ones. Stuart also charges that ACORN targeted ex-cons and that he personally set up registration tables outside the Miami police department and Dade County jail. He went on to state, "The voter registration project has been operating illegally since it started." ACORN has paid workers for every voter registration card collected -- a felony in Florida and also illegal in Missouri and Pennsylvania. ACORN also routinely accepted signatures for Amendment 5 from individuals who were not currently registered to vote -- a requirement under Florida law. Voter registration and petition fraud is just the latest chapter in ACORN's long sordid history. The EPI report also reveals:
ACORN Involved in Union Embezzlement -- In the late 1990s, ACORN's Project Vote was involved in an $850,000 embezzling scheme, where union funds and kickbacks were used to illegally aid the 1996 re-election bid of then- Teamsters President Ron Carey. A New York federal jury found the Teamsters political director guilty of the conspiracy.
ACORN bilks AmeriCorps -- In 1996, the Inspector General of the AmeriCorps program stripped a $1 million grant from the ACORN Housing Corporation (AHC). When applying, AHC had denied any connections to ACORN, since the grant was not intended for political advocacy organizations. Evidence later uncovered by the Inspector General found that not only was AHC created by ACORN, engaged in numerous transactions with one another, and sharing staff and office space -- but it utilized the AmeriCorps grant to increase ACORN membership, a violation of federal guidelines.
ACORN Union-Busts Own Workers -- On March 27, 2003 the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) found that ACORN had violated the National Labor Relations Act and was required to rehire and pay restitution to employees terminated for attempting to form a union. The NLRB ruling is just the latest in a trend of ACORN's union-busting tactics. ACORN employees have historically demanded higher wages, safer working conditions and more timely contracted wages. These efforts have been repressed behind closed doors by the hypocritical ACORN leadership, which publicly advocates higher pay and better working conditions for private sector workers.
ACORN and Minimum Wage Hypocrisy -- Most egregiously, ACORN promotes ballot initiatives and local ordinances to force businesses to pay higher minimum wages, as they are currently doing with the minimum wage proposal in Amendment 5. In 1995, however, ACORN sued the state of California to have its employees exempted from the state minimum wage. ACORN argued that being forced to pay higher wages would mean that they would hire fewer employees -- the very dilemma faced by businesses. Incredibly, ACORN stated that paying its employees a lower wage would allow them to be more sympathetic to the low- and moderate-income families they were attempting to help. ACORN argued that abiding by the state minimum wage would limit their ability to promote their agenda and would therefore be a violation of their First Amendment rights. The trial court judge dismissed ACORN's suits, stating, "leaving aside the latter argument's absurdity ... we find ACORN to be laboring under a fundamental misconception of constitutional law."
"ACORN's history of voter registration fraud, hypocrisy, abuse of federal grant programs, and disregard for sound economics should raise a red flag for voters considering support for Amendment 5," Garthwaite said. | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/17/2008 5:24:04 AM | http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Employment_Policies_Institute
How amusing you posted a biased article by a front group.
Hey lets look at an article from a REAL news group. Not a front group for a political interest.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j1i507fXjfsBwZ92ujqRSSV12niAD93RSCE80
Fact Check: GOP vitriol rages over community group By DEBORAH HASTINGS – 13 hours ago
Republican John McCain took his criticism of community activist group ACORN to new heights, claiming in the final presidential debate that the organization "is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy."
He kept up the attack on Thursday, saying ACORN is being investigated for voter fraud "in every single battleground state" and demanding that Democrat Barack Obama detail his ties to the group.
McCain is correct that at least a handful of ACORN canvassers are currently being investigated across the country by local officials on suspicion of submitting false registration cards, some with names like "Mickey Mouse" or "Donald Duck."
But in alleging voter fraud, McCain goes too far. To commit fraud, a person would have to show up on Election Day with identification bearing the fake name.
The group, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, recently completed a massive registration drive in poor and working-class neighborhoods — which tend to vote Democratic — across 21 states, signing up 1.3 million new voters. Bogus registration cards filled out in the names of cartoon characters and the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys have been targeted for investigation in about 12 states, including Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Missouri, Nevada and South Carolina.
ACORN, which advocates for the underprivileged, has said for days that it was its own quality-control workers who first noticed problem registration cards, flagged them and submitted them to local election officials in every state that is now investigating them.
ACORN hires canvassers from disadvantaged communities, pays them $8 an hour and provides them with a day of training, according to the group's spokesman, Brian Kettenring. He said those who forged registration cards were lazy employees trying to earn money for doing no work, and were fired.
Many states require that every collected registration card be submitted to election officials so that bogus cards or those with incomplete information are vetted by voting professionals, not the groups that collect them.
On Thursday, a senior law enforcement official told The Associated Press that the FBI is investigating whether the organization helped foster voter registration fraud.
The law enforcement official said the agency was looking at results of local inquiries in several states, including a raid on ACORN's office in Las Vegas, for any evidence of a coordinated national effort — something Republicans have been clamoring for in the past few days. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because Justice Department regulations forbid discussing ongoing investigations, particularly so close to an election.
An ACORN spokesman said the group has not been notified that it is being investigated.
McCain, in Wednesday night's debate, also sought to tie Obama to ACORN, saying he gave $832,000 to an ACORN "front outfit organization."
During this year's primary Obama's campaign hired a firm with ties to ACORN, for a get-out-the-vote effort. During Wednesday's debate, Obama said ACORN's latest registration drive "had nothing to do with us. We were not involved."
In addition, Obama and other lawyers in 1995 successfully represented ACORN in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois to gain implementation of the so-called "motor-voter" law, which made voter registration easier.
So some employees acted improperly and ACORN has cooperated, and amusingly enough rather than showing any actual cases of ACORN fraud (you know, ACORN as an organization being charged, upper management being charged ect.) you post an article from a republican front organization which reffers to statements by "they're own expert". Who of course is employed by the same Republican front organization.
So any actual news articles? | |
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| ACORN busted in Nevada Posted: 10/17/2008 5:27:59 AM | Funny...you post from the left and I from the right...and your judging? When it all comes out in the wash Charles...once again you will be wrong... | |
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