Looking at all the tax filers who report any business income at all, the Tax Policy Center confirms that about 2 percent will see their taxes increase under Obama's plan.

Weak and ignorant are the people who allow themselves to be manipulated by propaganda, distortions, and outright lies and let other people tell them what to think.

SACRAMENTO -- Dozens of newly minted Republican voters say they were duped into joining the party by a GOP contractor with a trail of fraud complaints stretching across the country.

Voters contacted by The Times said they were tricked into switching parties while signing what they believed were petitions for tougher penalties against child molesters. Some said they were told that they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Others had no idea their registration was being changed.

"I am not a Republican," insisted Karen Ashcraft, 47, a pet-clinic manager and former Democrat from Ventura who said she was duped by a signature gatherer into joining the GOP. "I certainly . . . won't sign anything in front of a grocery store ever again."

It is a bait-and-switch scheme familiar to election experts. The firm hired by the California Republican Party -- a small company called Young Political Majors, or YPM, which operates in several states -- has been accused of using the tactic across the country.

Election officials and lawmakers have launched investigations into the activities of YPM workers in Florida and Massachusetts. In Arizona, the firm was recently a defendant in a civil rights lawsuit. Prosecutors in Los Angeles and Ventura counties say they are investigating complaints about the company.

The firm, which a Republican Party spokesman said is paid $7 to $12 for each registration it secures, has denied any wrongdoing and says it has never been charged with a crime.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud18-2008oct18,0,1216330.story

Weaker still are those that deny the obvious and are purposely blind.

The firm, which a Republican Party spokesman said is paid $7 to $12 for each registration it secures, has denied any wrongdoing and says it has never been charged with a crime.

Even if true, it goes to the heart of requiring a legitimate photo and maybe even a fingerprint identification for voters. I know Florida requires everyone to have either a Driver License with a photo and a citizens state ID with a photo that looks similar to a driver license. You have to show it when you vote or you do not vote. In my book that should be a federal law. No verifible ID, no voting for you.

Funny how state rights suddenly get thrown out the window by Republicans when they're worried about the boogyman.

Even if true, it goes to the heart of requiring a legitimate photo and maybe even a fingerprint identification for voters.

The GOP is working to keep eligible African-Americans from voting in several states.
Sep 11, 2008 | Updated: 2:37 p.m. ET Sep 11, 2008

...Now, with the help of a 2008 Supreme Court decision, Crawford vs. Marion County (Indiana) Election Board, white Republicans in some areas will keep eligible blacks from voting by requiring driver's licenses. Not only is this new-fangled discrimination constitutional, it's spreading.

GOP proponents of the move say they are merely trying to reduce voter fraud. But while occasional efforts to stuff ballot boxes through phony absentee voting still surface, the incidence of individual vote fraud—voting when you aren't eligible—is virtually non-existent, as "The Truth About Vote Fraud," a study by the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University, clearly shows. In other words, the problem Republicans claim they want to combat with increased ID requirements doesn't exist. Meanwhile, those ID hurdles facing individuals do nothing to stop the organized insiders who still try to game the system...

To get an idea of how many African-Americans nationwide lack driver's licenses, recall Hurricane Katrina in 2005, when thousands were stranded without transportation. "Crawford Republicans" could make the old "Jim Crow Democrats" look like pikers when it comes to voter suppression.

Consider Wisconsin, a swing state. Republicans officials there are suing to enforce a "no match, no vote" provision in state regulations, where voters must not only show a photo ID, but establish that it matches the name and number in the Department of Motor Vehicles or Social Security Administration database. (Democrats are resisting the suit.) These lists are riddled with errors in every state, as the Brennan Center has proven in its report, "Restoring the Right to Vote."

How error prone? Florida wrongly purged tens of thousands of law-abiding, mostly Democratic, voters from the rolls in 2000, claiming they were felons. (This, among other things, cost Al Gore the presidency). Even after the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) and worldwide attention, the Florida software is still flawed. It requires only an 80 percent match to the name of a convicted felon. "So if there's a murderous John Peterson, the software disenfranchises everyone named John Peters," Andrew Hacker writes in a recent New York Review of Books...

It seems it is ok with liberals to have big govenment except when it is inconvenient.

What lies Charles? Put your money where your mouth is.

Watch out what you ask for... From The Wall Street Journal

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

[A Liberal Supermajority
Get ready for 'change' we haven't seen since 1965, or 1933.

the current polls hold, Barack Obama will win the White House on November 4 and Democrats will consolidate their Congressional majorities, probably with a filibuster-proof Senate or very close to it. Without the ability to filibuster, the Senate would become like the House, able to pass whatever the majority wants.

Though we doubt most Americans realize it, this would be one of the most profound political and ideological shifts in U.S. history. Liberals would dominate the entire government in a way they haven't since 1965, or 1933. In other words, the election would mark the restoration of the activist government that fell out of public favor in the 1970s. If the U.S. really is entering a period of unchecked left-wing ascendancy, Americans at least ought to understand what they will be getting, especially with the media cheering it all on.

The nearby table shows the major bills that passed the House this year or last before being stopped by the Senate minority. Keep in mind that the most important power of the filibuster is to shape legislation, not merely to block it. The threat of 41 committed Senators can cause the House to modify its desires even before legislation comes to a vote. Without that restraining power, all of the following have very good chances of becoming law in 2009 or 2010.

Charles, you've been duped, none of those are lies.
For one, in the State of Ohio, I live here and I'm a Union commercial plumber (Local #94 Canton, Oh.) you don't have to be licensed to be a plumber. You must be a Licensed Master Plumber to own a plumbing business. Which he does not have and never said he did. You only have to have journeyman's license to work in certain jurisdictions unless you own the company. I'm just telling you the truth.

Now if you ask a Union guy, he'll say Joe's no plumber. But what he's really saying is that he is not one of us (a union guy), but that he's a scab.

Did you check and see how much the company he works for actually makes? Obama has never been clear on what the profit is although some have figured it out. But it's not unusual for a small plumbing company to gross 250k in a year's time.

His middle name is Joe. My friend's first name is Darryl which is also his father's name, so my friend always went by his middle name.

That's what I've been trying to insinuate, but it seems that a lot of petty people seem to care.

I'm choosing what I call the lesser of two evils. I've never seen where the Dem's go to any great links to help us. They just give us a lot of lip service.

I am pro union but anti corruption. But as pro union as I am, I'm also against strong arming those who choose not to be union

UA backs Obama. The first union to do so I believe. What gets me is my local union is endorsing Democrats 100% locally. Are you to tell me that not one Republican is sympathetic to us and isn't better qualified? Give me a break.

UA backs Obama. The first union to do so I believe. What gets me is my local union is endorsing Democrats 100% locally. Are you to tell me that not one Republican is sympathetic to us and isn't better qualified? Give me a break.

Sen. McCain is bad for almost everything that affects working families.
The Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and other bad trade agreements that don’t protect workers here and abroad? McCain voted for them.

Protection of overtime rights? McCain voted against it.

Extending unemployment benefits? McCain has voted against it several times—and didn’t bother to show up to vote on a Senate stimulus package that failed by one vote.

The freedom to form unions? McCain voted to block the Employee Free Choice Act and supports a national law that would make it harder to get a voice on the job.

Privatizing federal jobs? McCain supports it.

Renewing the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), which helps working families get affordable health coverage for their kids? McCain voted against it and supported Bush’s veto.

Yes I'm biased and I've played no games making that known. I'm for small government and for personal responsibility. I'm for people learning to fend for themselves instead of leeching off of others. I'm fiscally conservative. I'm for free market capitalism.

Socially I'm more liberal, but the problem with social liberals is that they tend to shirk responsibilities. And when they get in trouble by shirking responsibility, they turn to YOU to bail them out.

By legal definition, to commit voter fraud means a person would have to present some kind of documentation at the polls — a driver's license, a phone bill or another form of ID — that bears the name of Mickey Mouse, for example. To do so risks a fine and imprisonment under state laws.

Voter fraud is rare in the United States, according to a 2007 report by the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law. Based on reviews of voter fraud claims at the federal and state level, the center's report asserted most problems were caused by things like technological glitches, clerical errors or mistakes made by voters and by election officials.

"It is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning than he will impersonate another voter at the polls," the report said.

Alex Keyssar, a professor at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, calls the current controversy "chapter 22 in a drama that's been going on awhile. The pattern is that nothing much ever comes from this. There have been no known cases of people voting fraudulently."

Electoral fraud is illegal interference with the process of an election. Acts of fraud tend to involve affecting vote counts to bring about a desired election outcome, whether by increasing the vote share of the favored candidate, depressing the vote share of the rival candidates, or both.

Voter registration

During 2007 and 2008, ACORN registered over 1.3 million new voters in 21 states.[16]

Where ACORN has discovered potentially false voter registration forms provided by its workers, it has followed legal requirements to submit them to voter registrars, but flagged them as requiring additional attention by voter registrars. In San Diego County, CA, officials stated that during 2008, ACORN-submitted registrations had a rejection rate of 17%–in contrast to a rate of less than 5% for voter drives by other organizations. This rate includes rejections for all errors on registration forms, whether innocent or intentional.[17]

ACORN's registration efforts have been investigated in a number of cities, in some cases as a result of ACORN-flagged registration forms;[5] at least fifteen ACORN employees in four states have been indicted or convicted of voter registration fraud between 2004 and 2008.[18][19]

Investigations that have not resulted in charges or are still pending have been conducted in St. Louis, Missouri in 2006;[20][21] Lake County, Indiana[22] and Cuyahoga County, Ohio[23][24] in 2008; in Michigan in 2008;[25] in Nevada in 2008;[26][5] in Missouri in 2008.[27] Investigations resulting in charges or convictions of ACORN voter-registration employees occurred in 2004 in Ohio;[28] in 2005 in Colorado;[29] in 2006 in Kansas City, Missouri;[30] in 2007 in Washington state.[31] In the Washington case, ACORN agreed to pay King County $25 000 for its investigative costs and acknowledged that the national organization could be subject to criminal prosecution if fraud occurs again. According to the prosecutor, the misconduct was done "as an easy way [for employees] to get paid [by ACORN], not as an attempt to influence the outcome of elections."[32][33]

During investigations, ACORN has publicly supported the investigations of employees submitting fraudulent voter registration information, has fired them if evidence supports the charges, and has stated its concern with false information on registration forms.[34][35] Officials have stated that ACORN has been cooperative in these investigations.[25]

Did you check and see how much the company he works for actually makes? Obama has never been clear on what the profit is although some have figured it out. But it's not unusual for a small plumbing company to gross 250k in a year's time.

Joe's right. He doesn't have to have a plumbing license in the State of Ohio to do plumbing. All he has to do is work for someone with a State of Ohio Master Plumber's License.

Acorn has commited voter fraud and has become an embarassment to Obama.

Joe's right. He doesn't have to have a plumbing license in the State of Ohio to do plumbing. All he has to do is work for someone with a State of Ohio Master Plumber's License.

Furthermore, Joe can probably own the business, as long as he has someone with a master's license on his payroll.

Acorn has commited voter fraud and has become an embarassment to Obama.

People that worked for acorn have been arrested and convicted. Obama has been exposed for his part in helping ACORN.

Pelosi, Reid and Franks along with Obama put 20 million in the bailout bill for ACORN> That puts them all in the pot of voter fraud.

Americans have woken up and McCain has closed the gap to 2%. Not even the endorsement of Powell,will help Obama now and Powell, has lost his credibility for doing what he just did.

The attention on the market crash has lost the attention that put Obama ahead and voter fraud so widespread by the Frauds, that run ACORN has taken the place of the economic crisis.

It is coming out now that Obama helped the slum lords of Chicago and the tenants loudly protested Obama for doing that. Seems there are plenty of minority people in Chicago that are not so fond of Obama. Not even the news media can hold off the exposing of the true Obama any longer. McCain is gaining ground fast now and it looks as if Obama may very well get left in the dust. Thank goodness, America had woken up to this farce and shame, the liberal politicians have perpertrated on America through ACORN.

Acorn has commited voter fraud and has become an embarassment to Obama.
People that worked for acorn have been arrested and convicted. Obama has been exposed for his part in helping ACORN.
Pelosi, Reid and Franks along with Obama put 20 million in the bailout bill for ACORN> That puts them all in the pot of voter fraud. Americans have woken up and McCain has closed the gap to 2%. Not even the endorsement of Powell,will help Obama now and Powell, has lost his credibility for doing what he just did. The attention on the market crash has lost the attention that put Obama ahead and voter fraud so widespread by the Frauds, that run ACORN has taken the place of the economic crisis. It is coming out now that Obama helped the slum lords of Chicago and the tenants loudly protested Obama for doing that. Seems there are plenty of minority people in Chicago that are not so fond of Obama. Not even the news media can hold off the exposing of the true Obama any longer. McCain is gaining ground fast now and it looks as if Obama may very well get left in the dust. Thank goodness, America had woken up to this farce and shame, the liberal politicians have perpertrated on America through ACORN.