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Posted: 10/13/2008 6:13:40 AM | America is a place for varying opinions and all are welcome to voice their opinion. Here's a video that shows what happens when some have a different opinion and here's the response to it. Who says elections aren't important? Take time to look and listen before you vote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 7:12:10 AM | I'll pass on electing a candidate hailing from nothing less than a landed, aristocratic, military family whose economic advisers believe our economic problems stem from the fact that we are a "nation of whiners," cannot define the middle class, forgot the number of houses he owns, and spends $200,000-300,000 a year on household help.
Shoveling out 302 billion dollars in already record tax breaks for major corporations and the top 5% of income earners when America faces a trillion dollar debt is also another unique "conservative" idea. There is also the matter of his unrelenting, almost creepy, support for the completely unjustifiable military occupation occurring in Iraq. This is strange, when he has seen the horrors of war first hand, but has supported every major US military intervention since WWII.
I'm also not sold on the whole "sorry ladies, you can't control your own body -- even if you are sexually assaulted -- concept..." Nor does the idea of categorically denying gays basic rights seem appealing. The notion of supporting a free market healthcare system makes me cringe. I don't exactly think HMO's, pharmaceutical companies, or insurance firms have the public's health at heart. It's also not cool he wants to hand me $5k that will be reflected in a $3K tax on benefits, and $6K net loss when it comes to health care. I guess he'll include a tax write off for a bucket to throw up in and call it "world class health care."
And I won't even get on the topic of his vice president choice. We've already seen what eight years of leadership from an obscenely unqualified, horridly ignorant, individual who eludes the media and believes foreign policy is directed by "God" has done.
Conservatism really does make me sick to my stomach, =/. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 7:17:16 AM |
Which "Old White Rich Guys" are you talking about? The ones on the left or right? If we let either side continue with "the unsual" any of us would be lucky to have vasoline used at all.
Good point.......Old White Rich Guys are on both sides.....but mostly they stand on the fence line so their hands can be open on both sides.
For now.....focus on the OWRG’s who are standing with their hands out asking for more money......more bailouts......and more tax breaks.......so they can get richer and trickle down to the American people.
Did you see the tax plans in the Sunday morning Parade......one is aimed at reducing taxes for the average American......the other is aimed at reducing taxes for the top rich
You decide what makes sense for your situation .  | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 8:07:40 AM | From Dreams of My Father:
'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father :
"I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father:
'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope:
'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 8:32:30 AM | FYI
(Follow the money and watch)
The connection between the organization under fire for voter registration fraud, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, and the large part they played in the sub-prime mortgage crisis:
“In the name of fairness to minorities, community organizers occupy private offices, CHANT inside bank lobbies, and CONFRONT executives at their homes - and thereby FORCE financial institutions to direct hundreds of millions of dollars in mortgages to low-credit customers.”
“In other words, community organizers help to undermine the US economy by pushing the banking system into a sinkhole of bad loans. And OBAMA has spent years training and funding the organizers who do it.”
Obama advisor and former CEO of Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines, was paid tens of millions of dollars during his six-year tenure using Enron-style accounting practices that are now under investigation by the FBI. Raines just purchased a new three-bedroom, seven-bath penthouse condominium in the West End’s Ritz-Carlton Residences in D.C. for $4.9 million.
Obama financier Jodie Evans has since 2003 been traveling the globe meeting with folks like the Castro brothers, Hugo Chavez, Saddam Hussein and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, working with enemies of the United States to undermine U.S. troops.
“Jodie Evans, co-founder of the leftist anti-American group Code Pink, has documented ties to governments on the State Department’s list of current and former state sponsors of terrorism including Iran, Cuba, Syria and the former Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein. She also has endorsed and worked with the so-called Iraqi resistance that has killed over three thousand American soldiers and thousands of free Iraqis.”
“Evans is listed on the official Obama website as a bundler of between $50,000 and $100,000 in contributions. According to FEC reports, the official Obama website and news accounts, Evans has personally contributed over $40,000 to the Obama campaign -- $4600 to Obama for America and around $36,000 to the Obama Victory Fund.” | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 9:16:55 AM | | I am voting for McCain but I do not know why people keep calling Obama a terrorist. I do not think he is a terrorist but I DO THINK he is a RACIST. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 9:19:19 AM |
From Dreams of My Father:
'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father :
"I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father:
'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope:
'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
Good Lord. This urban legend was discredited in May. I thought every intelligent American already knew that.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp
It really helps to do a little fact-checking before passing along those fictional chain-emails that purportedly contain "facts" about any politician.
I find that with a few mouse clicks I can usually get to the truth. That way I don't end up looking like a tool when I pass along "information". | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 9:46:38 AM | Uninterested,
thanks and kudos---as soon as I read that post I was about to respond asking where she got those quotes from, because they definitely stank to high heaven as one of the thousands of bogus wingnut smears that pop up every 10 minutes on the Internet.
The amazing thing about Obama is that he's been subject to all kinds of vicious smears, lies and fear-mongering from the moment he announced his candidacy and accelerating as soon as it was clear that he was going to beat out Hillary for the Democratic nomination...and here we are, less than a month from the election, and he's up in the polls by an average of 10 points and growing? Wow. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 9:47:44 AM |
I do not think he is a terrorist but I DO THINK he is a RACIST.
He is neither.
(By the way, why yould you vote for someone who wants to continue most of Bushes policies? Is it not obvious that those policies put this country in the mess it is in now?) | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 10:42:35 AM |
He is neither.
(By the way, why yould you vote for someone who wants to continue most of Bushes policies? Is it not obvious that those policies put this country in the mess it is in now?)
Bush's not being able to find his veto pen, during the first 6 years of his presidency, has been his biggest domestic downfall... And the reason for our economic problems to a very large extent. (IMO) McCain has been all over him for it, and seems to be looking forward to using a lot of ink during his administration. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 5:27:31 PM | Intoart muttered:
What you have to lose is your vote. You might as well not vote at all as to do that, because that is all the more effective it will be.
Sorry - was this supposed to be a coherent English sentence?
It's utterances like this (on both sides of the current scam) that always claim people voting for the candidate they truly want are "wasting their votes". Well, I've tried voting for the lesser loser in BOTH parties in the past and the result is ALWAYS the same...Just more losers in office. But go ahead and vote for whomever you believe in at the moment.
You're going to have to provide a much stronger argument than this tired old platitude.
YOU tell ME who I should vote for and why - in your humble opinion, because I don't see anyhing good about either of the monkeys now up for grabs.
Other than superficial, I see no true attractions either way. This time, I'm actually going to USE my vote, as thinking people always should.
"Hey, if we're going to vote somebody in for President who isn't an American citizen, I'd vote for Ahnold before Obama OR McCain. And that's not saying much."
Obama is an American citizen (if he weren't, he could never have run for president to begin with.) You should really think before you post something so overwhelmingly, obviously false, because it makes you look like a fool.
So you think one of the very first things to happen is that "somebody" checks all the candidates' birth certificates? Just who would that "somebody" be?
That's pretty trusting and and foolish of you as well. There's nothing "obvious" about it. You probably believe everyone who works in Federal Government buildings have all been checked out by "somebody" and are here legally, too, right?
What else do you blindly trust in without verification? How about the count of votes?
Obama ought to get his website fixed and a decent, legible copy of his birth certificate put up there if he doesn't want people questioning its authenticity. As I posted elsewhere already, the sloppiness just begs for criticism.
Think I'll use this as my tagline from now on...
"You can lead a donkey to water, but you can't make him think." | |
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Posted: 10/13/2008 7:28:28 PM | Dearest McCain voters,
May I suggest you buy stock in Kleenex... with all that big money in your 401K?
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Obama '08
Barack to the future | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 6:03:28 AM |
Sorry - was this supposed to be a coherent English sentence?
Yes, it is entirely coherent. Apparently your ability to read with comprehension is lacking, though. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 10:16:53 AM | | Cthulu 08'! Why settle for the lesser evil?! | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 10:23:53 AM |
Cthulu 08'! Why settle for the lesser evil?!
Indeed. A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil!
Shame on you Republicans and Democrats.  | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 10:28:30 AM | Any person, conservative or liberal, who votes for a person rather than policies is being ignorant of what politics is all about. I'd vote for David Duke if he started advocating a platform I agreed with.
It's never about the person. They are all hustlers. They have to be to get things done. If you believe anything else, you're being foolish. It's always about the platform. Everything else is just theater for the masses.
Lateef | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 10:43:48 AM | Regardless of who you are voting for, be sure you are properly registered to vote!
Have you moved since the last time you voted?
Has your name changed?
Do you know where your current polling place is?
You can check with your secretary of state's office to find out how to register and if you are properly registered. In Kansas you have until October 20 to register or update your registration information. Each state is different.
Some states let you vote in advance or by mail. Kansas will start advance voting on October 21. I do this because there are NO LINES and I still get my "I voted" sticker!
In my county we can pull up our polling place and a sample ballot. It's a good idea to review your ballot and the issues in advance of election day so you go to the polls prepared. This saves you time, the people in line behind you time, and the poll workers time. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 10:45:09 AM | | If you are undecided on who to vote for, just listen to a group of children debate the issues. They are wise beyond their years! I experienced this at a church overnight this past weekend. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 11:02:07 AM |
If you are undecided on who to vote for, just listen to a group of children debate the issues. They are wise beyond their years! I experienced this at a church overnight this past weekend.
lol, You listen to children? You ask me if I believe everything I read? You need to wake up lady.
Any thing I am told on mainstream media I would not believe. If there is a political party being mainstreamed I would ignore, as they will only be funded by companies that own the media.
I dont believe everything I read, or watch on the TV. I base my information on people that have researched events for 20 years and know what the hell they are actually talking about. Stuff that isnt spoon fed to us.
I dont know if Ron Paul is standing for election, but if he is, or if anyone is questioning who they should support in future elections. Then Ron Paul is your guy! | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 11:30:35 AM | | I still feel that a vote for an independent is a wasted vote. In a close election, the few who vote for neither party lose an opportunity to swing the election. In the last election, for example, if all of libertarian votes, Nader votes, etc. had gone to Gore instead, he would have won and we wouldn't have had to put up with another four years of Bush idiocy. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 11:52:33 AM |
I still feel that a vote for an independent is a wasted vote. In a close election, the few who vote for neither party lose an opportunity to swing the election. In the last election, for example, if all of libertarian votes, Nader votes, etc. had gone to Gore instead, he would have won and we wouldn't have had to put up with another four years of Bush idiocy.
Give me strength! And Al Gore would have sorted all this out? Get real.
Either or, they are both funded and controlled by the companies pulling their strings. So either way, allowing either of them into power will allow the people above them to continue and carry out their agendas of a one world order.
And all this talk of global warming by the way is to simply bring in the new "carbon tax".
The sun is getting hotter. It emits huge bursts of energy and it is just unfortunate that we are living within this current solar cycle.
OK, The ozone layer...this is a completely different story. This is man made. And I believe more focus and attention is required towards limiting the damage towards this. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 11:56:01 AM |
"Sorry - was this supposed to be a coherent English sentence?"
Yes, it is entirely coherent. Apparently your ability to read with comprehension is lacking, though.
Intoart wrote:
"... because that is all the more effective it will be."
Okay...I believe that YOU believe it's coherent. It sounds like something a 7-year old might say. Something along the lines of: "Our car is broken. IT NEEDS FIXED".
"...because that is all the more effective it will be." ?
Nope, sorry - incoherence. Why don't you just come out and speak plainly instead of trying to appear the intellectual - it just isn't working. I know what you're attempting to say with that mangled gibberish even though I don't think it makes technical sense.
I would almost bet my reading comprehension outclasses yours, which is why precision is important. A tiny twist on the use of a word can make what appears to say one thing, mean entirely another.
Okay, okay..it just appears written by a very ignorant person. In other words, it approaches the class of - a Bushism.
There. I said it. Now go check your car.
It may "need fixed". | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 12:23:27 PM |
I would almost bet my reading comprehension outclasses yours, which is why precision is important.
You would lose that bet. I actually score HIGHER on English tests than math, and I am a mathematician! | |
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Posted: 10/14/2008 12:51:01 PM |
In the last election, for example, if all of libertarian votes, Nader votes, etc. had gone to Gore instead, he would have won and we wouldn't have had to put up with another four years of Bush idiocy.
You can feel however you want about what other people do, that doesn't make you right or them wrong. For all your high test-scoring claims (and bad writing), you just don't get it. The reason folks voted for so-called third party candidates is that they were sick of the them-versus-us, two-party mentality. If they had wanted "Gore" to win last election, they would have voted for him.
The other problem with your argument is that in "the last election", Gore wasn't even running against Bush. It was John Kerry. You're so busy railing AGAINST what other people are doing, you don't even seem cognizant of what or who "your party" is /was fielding!
(Please don't try to "eel out" of that statement - you said "another four years of Bush idiocy", which can ONLY be referring to the 2004 election. "Eel out" being a euphemistic phrase for one who slithers, slips, slides or otherwise tries to wriggle their way out of something.)
So much for the reliability of mathemeticians. There's a huge difference between tested potential and potential realized. Your claimed test scores, claimed occupation (currently working as a mathemetician, right? Not just a static old degree? ) and superiority may sound good to you, but they look bad from this persepective.
You want to continue the ad hominems? They don't seem to be working out too well for you. | |
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