| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/10/2008 4:25:11 AM |
To feed themselves and put a roof over their heads.
The problem with this country is that far too many people think that the world owes them a living and aren't willing to get off their lazy @rses and support themselves.
In a way it is true.. but imagine a historian working in construction .. how good would he be in this job and may he endanger the people in his team because he is simply not made to do this job?
And if people are 'to clever' for the certain types of jobs this is immediately noticed.
During my studies I worked in a shop.. I was able to sell more than other 8 people together.. they hated me a lot, but it was obvious that the job was under my ability level.I did not feel good there as nobody liked me due to my ability and I would be bored if I was not selling.. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/10/2008 4:33:39 AM | I saw an advert for a job for a male stripper in a soho nightclub and went for
an audition last night but I'm sorry to report that I failed to get the position
as I took to long too remove my shirt and fell over trying to take of my trousers.
There is plenty of work out there if you take the time to look around so there is no excuse.... | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/10/2008 8:21:11 AM |  at msg 27 you nut...
I think there are but ppl are to fussy... i worked 3 jobs to keep my kids and home going
from cleaning to shop work and bar work..
if you really want to earn money you'l do owt IMO. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/10/2008 8:53:07 AM |
In a way it is true.. but imagine a historian working in construction .. how good would he be in this job and may he endanger the people in his team because he is simply not made to do this job?
What a ridiculous analogy. He probably wouldn't make a very good astronaut or brain surgeon either. But, that really isn't the point.
Just because you can thinks of jobs that someone wouldn't be suited for it doesn't follow that there aren't any at all that they could do if they were inclined to do so. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/10/2008 1:17:58 PM | Yes there are jobs out there, you only have to look in the local papers etc.
My son quit his job Monday night as the manager is a bully (not just to my son but other staff).
Tuesday morning he was shopping in TkMaxx & just on the off chance handed his cv in. 2 hours later he had a call on his mobile asking for him to come in for an interview at 1pm. He went & at 2.30pm they gave him a 4hr induction & he started the job properly on Wednesday morning! | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/10/2008 2:21:39 PM | What a ridiculous analogy. He probably wouldn't make a very good astronaut or brain surgeon either. But, that really isn't the point.
Just because you can thinks of jobs that someone wouldn't be suited for it doesn't follow that there aren't any at all that they could do if they were inclined to do so.
That is a question actually !
Would you send someone overqualified in certain professions into doing any job..
I remember watching a documentary about Eastern Germany doing something similar so the lady who had a master degree in Biology and who was unemployed and on benefits was sent to work as a museum cleaner for 80p a day ..
This was several years ago and I am not sure how this worked for them.
But I support the idea that people should be doing what they are talented for, not just any job to make enough to eat and sleep.
US did this too, shown in that documentary ' Bowling for Columbine' but strangely enough they were sent to work for free for the rich people, while I thought it would be useful to send them to work for the good of the community ! | |
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Posted: 10/11/2008 8:14:12 AM | I don't think many people are realising whats going off in the world.
Just 3 short months ago there were several large estates being built near me, at full capacity......now they all lay idle, shut, closed for business.
So what's happened to all those brickies, plasters, plumbers, electricians etc?
I happened to stop by a small sandwich van on an industrial estate and she was telling me how she fears for her livelihood because her trade had dropped by 2/3s.
The building trade is always the first to suffer in any economic slow downs but the reprocussion reverberate throughout society.
I did a quick search on a job site a few days ago, for various trades and I found quite a lot too......until I changed the filter to jobs advertsed within the last 2 weeks.....there were very few. None at all for building trades.
Yesterday alone I heard stories from several people who were being layed off themselves or they knew someone who was.
If the crunch hasn't hit your industry or neck of the woods yet I can assure you it will so don't think you're immune. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/11/2008 8:25:23 AM | [I just don't buy this. In almost all cases an employer would far rather hire and English worker. The only reason to choose a foreigner over and English worker is if they are better at the job]
I have to disagree with this totally. In my area there have been many cases where workforce have been paid off and Polish workers employed because they employers can get away with paying them less. Not so long ago a firm in Edinburgh paid off all their scaffolders claiming work had dried up. Two weeks later they were back in business with Polish workers and business was booming. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/11/2008 8:42:01 AM | Mamacool:
This isn't a case of paying them less. Polish people come from a world of having very little so appreciate the oppotunity of working hard to make a better living.
They work like dogs, even without supervision.
The same cannot be said of most English workers who seem to think they are doing their employers a favour by turning up and find any excuse to toss it off.
So if you were an employer, who would you rather give a job to? | |
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Posted: 10/11/2008 8:42:34 AM | The last town I worked at in the UK was Worksop, it should've been called Workshy.
The town is now full of Polish workers (emphasis on the word worker) who're willing to earn a living.
On arriving back in OZ I printed out dozens of copies of my CV and tramped around looking for work. I had a job within two days, not what I would've wanted, but a job.
Which puts to bed the arguement that you can't get a job when you're past 60. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/11/2008 8:56:09 AM | When I was on maternity leave many years, I was pushed "sideways" to a different job and was pretty much pushed out. Anyway, needed money and there was no way I was going to accept benefits. I found a job (albeit a crappy one) straight away.
There are jobs out there, just depends on how fussy people are. I would clean toilets and scrub floors if it meant I had self respect and a wage packed I'd earned myself. People tend to forget that once you get a foot in the door with any employer, other opportunies invariably turn up. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/11/2008 1:25:02 PM |
I don't think many people are realising whats going off in the world.
Just 3 short months ago there were several large estates being built near me, at full capacity......now they all lay idle, shut, closed for business.
So what's happened to all those brickies, plasters, plumbers, electricians etc?
I happened to stop by a small sandwich van on an industrial estate and she was telling me how she fears for her livelihood because her trade had dropped by 2/3s.
The building trade is always the first to suffer in any economic slow downs but the reprocussion reverberate throughout society.
I did a quick search on a job site a few days ago, for various trades and I found quite a lot too......until I changed the filter to jobs advertsed within the last 2 weeks.....there were very few. None at all for building trades.
Yesterday alone I heard stories from several people who were being layed off themselves or they knew someone who was.
If the crunch hasn't hit your industry or neck of the woods yet I can assure you it will so don't think you're immune.
This is very true !
There are simply no jobs and not long ago BBC had a story on Polish workers leaving UK because they are now better off in Poland as the economy is much healthier there than here!
My brother in law is a economy analyst and he is saying we are going to have two next years of this, maybe even worse than now.
today I spoke to another friend who is a recruitment agent and he is saying there is 75% of job shortage for admin jobs he is doing compared to 5 years ago.
So there is basically much more people applying for one job than 5 years ago. | |
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Posted: 10/11/2008 3:39:45 PM |
There are simply no jobs and not long ago BBC had a story on Polish workers leaving UK because they are now better off in Poland as the economy is much healthier there than here!
The truth behind this is that many Eastern Europeans (or Central Europeans as you would say it Alma!) are finding that the wages in their home country have risen to the extent that they can now get a job at 'home' at a much better wage then they could 4 or 5 years ago. So naturally they are heading home! That's not surprising really. | |
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Posted: 10/11/2008 3:47:35 PM | | Message 21, i dont know where you get your figures from as regarding financial help to people earning 25k and under, i can assure you if you took 10k off that figure you still would not get help. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/12/2008 2:51:56 AM |
The truth behind this is that many Eastern Europeans (or Central Europeans as you would say it Alma!) are finding that the wages in their home country have risen to the extent that they can now get a job at 'home' at a much better wage then they could 4 or 5 years ago. So naturally they are heading home! That's not surprising really.
I have never been to Poland so I do not know about their economy.I know them only as potential tourists.
Many years ago they seemed like quite poor country, I am talking about the times in 80s when they would come to Adriatic Sea for their holiday.
Now they are one of the best customers , I am talking about the Adriatic again. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/12/2008 3:03:23 AM |
slogging there guts out for just over a fiver an hour
Actually at £5.72 its closer to just uner £6 an hour ;)
There are jobs out there, just depends on how fussy people are. I would clean toilets and scrub floors if it meant I had self respect and a wage packed I'd earned myself. People tend to forget that once you get a foot in the door with any employer, other opportunies invariably turn up.
This is my thinking too. I'm 24 and been working since I was 16. The longest I have been unemployed for was 2 weeks after I moved back to Bristol for my final year of university. Within that week I was already getting twitchy about not having a job. I started a job doing bar work within 48 hours of asking if there were any jobs. I'm now a member of the management team and run the hotel 40 hours a week.
As for the "Polish workers stealing our iobs" cobblers that is being spouted, I work in a hotel and there are plenty of jobs available, it has got to the point where there are more jobs going than applicants! There are lots of jobs but people simply don't want them. In the past I've had Polish guys working for me who have been happy to do anything and everything asked of them without complaint. (The store-man in the hotel is degree educated but spends the majority of his time at work lugging boxes kegs etc around). Some of these guys were working 2 full time jobs and still came to work happy. Basically the Pole's have worked to a much higher standard, complained less and done the work without having to be constantly supervised.
In all honesty, I don't care where someone comes from, if they have the skills to do the job, I would employ them. There are jobs available, people just need to stop thinking they are entitled to the first job they apply for. It's up to you to get yourself noticed by an employer, not the employer to hunt you down. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/12/2008 3:21:37 AM | | I lost my job on October 1st as my department was merging with another department in London to save money; I had a job interview lined up by the end of October 1st, had the interview the very next day, was offered the job by mid-day on Friday, starting work tomorrow. And i don't live in any big town. So if your willing and prepared to work, theres jobs out there, but i guess companies might be slightly more picky now than they used to be, so people wihout experience like school leavers might suffer. | |
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| Are there jobs out there if you take time to look
Posted: 10/12/2008 4:42:21 AM | | I think it depends on where you live in the UK. I spent many years in Cornwall and a lot of jobs in that part of the world were poorly paid and few and far between. Here in Manchester there's plenty of commercial and customer support jobs, and plenty of professional vacancies. I've been working on temp IT contracts for 2 years and have never spent longer than 3 days between jobs (those days were down to my laziness). | |
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