| |
| |
| |
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 12/18/2008 8:07:57 PM | In this modern age of equality if you can make your woman cum orally and there is no attempt to reciprocate are you obligated to continue in the future? If you are a gentleman and make her orgasm first and even second should there be any gold at the end or your rainbow? I think if you are giving your woman oral because you expect it in return, then you are doing it for the wrong reason. I do it because I like to. I like to make her feel good. If I make her come several times that way, and she does not want to do the same, ok. There are other ways of her making me feel good, too. I'd rather she do something to me because she wants to, not because she thinks she owes me. | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 12/18/2008 11:06:05 PM |
Because I don't enjoy it doesn't make me selfish...............and because you like a****in your mouth doesn't make you unselfish. Maybe your vagina doesn't smell the best and that is why you would rather give then receive..........I'm not sure if it does, and don't want to find out, but you have as much right talking about people being selfish or unselfish as I do talking about your vagina, because you don't know everyone else.
I was not implying that. I hope I did not offend you. I did not mean to be. What I was saying, that I am the type of person, who enjoys being the "giving" it has nothing to do, if my vagina smells or not( it does not, because I am a very clean individual and I also take care of myself); but, my point is, you are right, everyone has their choice in the matter. Most people enjoy giving and receiving, and there is absolutely nothing wrong that!=) | |
|
| |
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 12/24/2008 4:02:30 PM | | It is not about being equal at all. It is about pleasure no matter what happens. If she gives or you give there is pleasure to had in what your given not just in getting. you should get pleasure from giving her the pleasure not really expecting any in return. | |
|
| |
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/6/2009 10:04:26 AM | | From most of what I read on this forum, sex should me mutually pleasant......right? So why should I have to settle for below average? Ladies, if your sexual partner constantly leaves you unfulfilled where is your incentive going to be to give it your all? If I was a woman and wrote this post all my sisters would show strong support for my perspective. Right? | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/6/2009 11:53:32 AM | | So you know if all things are equal I say yes she should return the favour? But as you said equal if i do for you i would expect you shaved completely, showered right before, and yep if you can orgasm twoice and still be good to go no problem. (i think thats where most guys can't be equal lol). And the first part of your question about are you obligated to continue in the future? Well, if you know this is the deal that she's not going to reciprocate and its a deal breaker for you I guess you have your answer. If you can accept that not everyone likes to do and play the same way then enjoy. | |
|
| |
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/6/2009 1:07:34 PM | There is never an "obligation" to do anything...it has to suit both of you. It is not a transaction. It is an agreement between a man and a woman, unless of course it actually IS a transaction...then all bets are off!  | |
|
A,b,c
| Joined: 6/1/2008 Msg: 213 | |
| |
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/26/2009 10:26:12 AM | It's up to your partner, Some women don't like giving oral, some do. IMO, I enjoy giving oral, I love pleaseing my partner. Wheather she does or does not is not the question, It's are you both satisfied, taht counts the most. You don't keep score in the bedroom.
 | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/26/2009 10:45:09 AM | i agree it's up to your partner, personally i wouldn't keep score of things like that, it's more about pleasing your mate before pleasing yourself.
on another note, a woman would have to be really good to get me off orally, so i'm not incredibly concerned with that, satisfy her, then satisfy yourself. | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/26/2009 11:44:39 AM | This one's a real slam-dunk. If it matters to you that much, then find out in advance of becoming attached to someone if they are into what you really need them to be into. Waiting until your hooks are deep into each other is far too late and kind of stupid, given how much more candid people are about such deeply private matters than they were as recently as 20 years ago.
For example, I am someone who has an oral fixation, so a girl's jollies are pretty much guaranteed. But I've been the gentleman who's suffered the hypocrisy of someone wanting to receive but not wanting to give too many times. Any moron can receive, but it's selfish to insist that someone can give to you, but you shouldn't have to consider providing someone else the same rush they just gave you.
So there's nothing mercenary about insisting it going both ways. Just don't be stupid about it. Just remember that you deserve to get what YOU want as much as the other deserves to get what THEY want. So just go find someone who's on the same page with you, that's all.
The quickest way to NOT have an argument is to find someone who already agrees with you. Look, your love life should be a refuge from the misery of day-to-day living, not just another form of stress to endure. Heck, if you can't even have a decent love life with someone, what's left?
So just be smart about your choices, that's all. There are deal-breakers you don't back down from, right? Well, then figure out what love life deal-breakers you have and stick to them. For example I don't date women who smoke, experiment with drugs, drink heavily, have young children at home or who have cats. Whenever I break one these bylaws in the name of testing my open-mindedness, I'm always really sorry I did.
Get to know who you are and don't violate bylaws that go against your nature or life situation just because an opportunity came up. Granted, a given woman might be the most wonderful person on the planet, but if she's a heavy-drinkin' smoker with cats and small kids who pops an occasional pill, I'll live to regret bonding with her, and that's that. So I just accept that it can't work with me and someone else under certain circumstances.
There are certain areas of life where you not only shouldn't have to compromise, but that it would be unhealthy if you did. Learn the difference and you'll be okay.
As for me, because I have an oral fixation and am happy to make a girl happy, I consider it most appropriate for me to expect to receive as good as I give. And it DOES matter to me that much. SO -- what do I do? I simply try to avoid a lot of problems with trying to convert someone to my way of thinking by locating someone who doesn't need converting: I try to find a girl who, besides possessing other good qualities, ALSO has an oral fixation. Ta-Da! Problem solved.
(I can't believe this stuff actually requires an explanation...) | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/26/2009 11:49:28 AM |
QUID PRO QOU? If this than that? Is sex and exchange? If I come I have to make you come...Come on now...There is nothing genltmanly her quit lying to yourself and others...
OK, then how about this? I'll just let women perform oral sex on me and expect them to satisfy me while refusing to perform oral sex on them. Is that better now that we've eliminated any quid pro quo? | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/26/2009 11:58:06 AM |
" If you can accept that not everyone likes to do and play the same way then enjoy." --QeteshK
QeteshK's point is a valid one, and one you should consider before letting yourself becoming committed to a long-term relationship with anyone. And by the way, you're not obligated to yoke yourself to someone who doesn't do and play as you do. It's hard to find like-mindedness, but it's worth not settling for whatever comes along, either.
This one's a real slam-dunk. If what you really enjoy in your love life matters to you that much, then find out in advance of becoming attached to someone if they are into what you really need them to be into. Waiting until your hooks are deep into each other is far too late to discover significant sexual incompatibility; and kind of stupid, given how much more candid people are about such deeply private matters than they were as recently as 20 years ago.
For example, I am someone who has an oral fixation, so a girl's jollies are pretty much guaranteed. But I've been the gentleman who's suffered the hypocrisy of someone wanting to receive but not wanting to give too many times. Any moron can receive, but it's selfish to insist that someone can give to you, but you shouldn't have to consider providing someone else the same rush they just gave you. The other person should WANT to fulfill you and shouldn't have to be reminded -- otherwise, you're with someone who is too self-centered and not considerate enough.
Believe me, there's nothing mercenary about insisting it go both ways. Just don't be stupid about it. Just remember that you deserve to get what YOU want as much as the other deserves to get what HE or SHE wants. Just go find someone who's on the same page with you, that's all. Find someone who WANTS to do what you want them to do, and then you're both happy all the time.
Although vegetarians and carnivores or Jews and Catholics can politely co-exist, for example, you still need to think of the long run, not just the lovey-dovey period. But keep in mind, there are just certain areas of life where people should NOT have to always make sacrifices or take one for the team. And sex is one of them. Sex should be an enriching indulgence for two people, not a series of awkward complications that occasionally yield mutual contentment.
The quickest way to NOT have an argument is to find someone who already agrees with you -- this is the basis of compatibility. Look, your love life should be a refuge from the misery of day-to-day living, not just another form of stress to endure. Heck, if you can't even have a decent love life with someone, what's left? Really.
So just be smart about your choices, that's all. There are deal-breakers you don't back down from, right? Well, then figure out what love life deal-breakers you have and stick to them. For example, I don't date women who smoke, experiment with drugs, drink heavily, have young children at home or who have cats. Whenever I break one of these bylaws in the name of testing my open-mindedness, I'm always really sorry I did.
Get to know who you are and don't violate bylaws that go against your nature or life situation just because an opportunity came up. Granted, a given woman might be the most wonderful person on the planet, but if she's a heavy-drinkin' smoker with cats and small kids who pops an occasional pill, I'll live to regret bonding with her, and that's that. So I just accept that it can't work with me and someone else under certain circumstances.
There are certain areas of life where you not only shouldn't have to compromise, but that it would be unhealthy if you did. Learn the difference and you'll be okay.
As for me, because I have an oral fixation and am happy to make a girl happy, I consider it most appropriate for me to expect to receive as good as I give. And it DOES matter to me that much. SO -- what do I do? I simply try to avoid a lot of problems with trying to convert someone to my way of thinking by locating someone who doesn't need converting: I try to find a girl who, besides possessing other good qualities, ALSO has an oral fixation. Ta-Da! Problem solved.
(I can't believe this stuff actually requires an explanation...) | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/27/2009 1:32:33 PM | Depends on if she is able to make you cum....Not to seem odd but I am talented in that area but some men arent able to finish like that. Should she make you cum somehow someway.....um yes of course, but I wouldn't say it would have to be the exact way you made her cum | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/27/2009 4:00:07 PM | Big difference in a man going down on a lady and vice versa, if you think about it, eh?
Sorry, I haven't read all of these posts - far too many. and some very long and pointless, judging by previous page alone!
Answer - no, this sounds like a kid at a picnic. | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/27/2009 8:08:29 PM |
In this modern age of equality if you can make your woman cum orally and there is no attempt to reciprocate are you obligated to continue in the future? If you are a gentleman and make her orgasm first and even second should there be any gold at the end or your rainbow?
Dude, if you munched the box properly and she didn't fake an orgasm like she did with you, there would never, ever, ever, ever be an issue like this. Proper eating of her meat curtains opens her body to almost anything. | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/27/2009 8:27:46 PM | | No, no one is ever obliged to do anything during sex unless they want to. I'd figure that either you weren't any good at eating her out and she just wasn't into doing you after, or she simply doesn't like giving oral in the first place, in which case you probably knew that before you went down on her because in my experience women who dislike giving oral make sure you know it. | |
|
| If you make her cum orally shouldn't she return the favor? Posted: 1/27/2009 9:07:38 PM | I like being used as a sex toy, so I would vote a definite "no".
I've turned down penetration on many occasions - prefer to just go down on a woman, especially if the relationship is just starting. That way, you have something to build up towards. | |
|
| |
| |