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 desertrhino

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Kola Superdeep Borehole aka (Well to Hell legend)
Posted: 10/3/2009 10:25:14 PM

Do you think it would be possible to build a probe that could handle that heat/pressure, and swim around there collecting data?


No. Not for the foreseeable future. Next question?
 Light Storm

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Posted: 10/3/2009 10:43:51 PM

No. Not for the foreseeable future. Next question?


Pretend to have an imagination... If a probe could liquefy rock, it could get down there :) Kinda like the outside of it would need to generate more heat than the data collector inside of it... kinda like a fridge... only upped a couple notches :)
 FrogO_Oeyes

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Kola Superdeep Borehole aka (Well to Hell legend)
Posted: 10/3/2009 10:59:10 PM
Um...no. It would have to get rid of the heat it's boiling in. A fridge or an air conditioner can only work because it creates a temperature and pressure differential and pumps heat from one area into another. Your hypothetical probe would be surrounded by a much hotter medium. It would have no way to pump excess heat, because there would be nowhere to pump it TO. The alternative would be to convert the heat into usable energy. Even so, ALL such heat would have to be used, or there would still be an excess to deal with. Back to square one. At the moment, and for the forseeable future...

No. Not for the foreseeable future. Next question?

is correct.

Imagination has squat to do with it. It's limitations imposed by very basic physics.
 Light Storm

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Kola Superdeep Borehole aka (Well to Hell legend)
Posted: 10/22/2009 8:27:27 AM
Curious Math Question

Pretend you had an imaginary elevator that wouldn't be crushed or melted that you could step inside of and ride down to the center of the earth.

Would gravity gradually change as you got closer to the center?
 xzanthius

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Kola Superdeep Borehole aka (Well to Hell legend)
Posted: 10/22/2009 9:23:30 AM
^^^^
Yes... at the center of the earth there is no gravity (it lessens as you get deeper), there is just a lot of pressure and heat.
 quietjohn2

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Posted: 10/22/2009 9:26:51 AM

there is just a lot of pressure

Why would there be lots of pressure?
 ENRIQUECALOR

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Posted: 10/22/2009 9:45:34 AM
Check out INDONESIAN MUD VOLCANO on google

Thsi is a relatively shallow drill hole where it all went wrong

i beleive the derrick evenbtually fell into the hole
 ENRIQUECALOR

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Posted: 10/22/2009 10:06:46 AM
From what i can remember the geothermal gradient in continental rocks is c 15 C /Km
So if the Kola experiment got down 1/3 way into 22km thickness it got to c8 km

Therfore to a temperature of 120C which is not hot enough to melt ceramic lenses carrying high energy coherent light.
The fibre optic central core of drill tube could easily withstand that temperature

Drilling liquids passed down a central tube which contained water would change to superheated steam on contact with the rock in the burn chamber and would propel all waste to surface around the descending fluid tube

Once the steam expanded it would increase velocity towards surface clearing all debris.

If lasers can cut through 6 inches of steel they could easily handle metamorphic rock.

Another way is a compound device

Water descends 7 km down a central tube and reaches a spinning lower section.
The water emerges at immense pressure (I cant calculate it at moment) at a pressure which will cut through rock like a knife through butter. Perhaps with silicon carbide injected into waterstream.
This industrial process already exists and can cut through rock and steel.

The process is assisted by high energy light sent d0wn on fibre optic central core.
The light flashes the water to steam which then rises rapidly to surface carrying the debris to surface.

As the steam expands it drives a small simple turbine which rotates the cutting head rapidly so cuting head rotates without input from surface.

any objections to that
 Light Storm

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Posted: 10/23/2009 4:11:33 PM
Re: Enriqecalor


Check out INDONESIAN MUD VOLCANO on google


I found a really good video on Youtube done by a rep for Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MxaHwpFBWk

It certainly is a sad event, the people blame it on industry drilling, the industry blames the event on an earthquake. But one thing is for sure, that is a lot of mud, holy crap!
 ENRIQUECALOR

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Kola Superdeep Borehole aka (Well to Hell legend)
Posted: 10/25/2009 8:24:00 PM
checkout MONTARA RIG owned by PTTEP in TIMOR Sea NW of Australia which has been leaking 2000 barrels of oil a day since august into ocean. Seafloor c 7000 ft down Slick covers 5800 sq miles
The Times 24 Oct 2009
 yna6

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Posted: 10/26/2009 9:02:02 AM
A hole that deep could hold a lot of garbage. Great way to get rid of some toxic waste. All the heat and pressure could be beneficial!
 xzanthius

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Posted: 10/26/2009 9:39:34 AM
Quietjohn2- There's lots of pressure because there's millions of tons to rock pressing down in the center of the Earth from all sides. There's a lot of pressure in the same way as the pressure increases as we go deeper into water.
 quietjohn2

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Posted: 10/28/2009 8:46:29 AM
xzanthus: - Why would rocks weigh anything at the center of the earth?
 desertrhino

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Posted: 10/28/2009 4:09:09 PM

xzanthus: - Why would rocks weigh anything at the center of the earth?

Uhhh, the rock at the exact center of the Earth weighs nothing. The atom at the exact center.

The pressure comes from all the gadzillions of tons of rock ON TOP of the atom at the very center.
 quietjohn2

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Kola Superdeep Borehole aka (Well to Hell legend)
Posted: 10/29/2009 10:53:12 AM
Xanthus an Rhino - yep, I think you're right - thanks! Never thought about such a strange place before. No gravity, yet lots of weight. If you could actually occupy a room down there, I guess everything you drop would 'gravitate' to the center of the room. I need a place like that!
 ENRIQUECALOR

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Posted: 10/30/2009 8:14:33 AM
It s a well known FACT that 95% of the souls of the earths population from the past who did not lead an exemplary life are in a small room at the centre of the earth.

There is no air conditioning , no daylight, no food and no pay and there are endless Christian tubthumping zealots preaching all day long, day in and day out.
All this in a room with no gravity.
Mr Hitler and Mr Stalin sell ice cream which melts immediately
Tony Blair is expected any day to go on an endless lecture tour talking nonsense to the gullible.
 Light Storm

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Kola Superdeep Borehole aka (Well to Hell legend)
Posted: 10/30/2009 11:44:19 PM
Re: Desertrhino


Uhhh, the rock at the exact center of the Earth weighs nothing. The atom at the exact center.

The pressure comes from all the gadzillions of tons of rock ON TOP of the atom at the very center.


They say the inner core of the planet has a temperate much like that of the sun, Billion of tons of liquid metal swirling inside the earth faster than the earth rotates. The inner core is under so much pressure that it can not melt. They say that metals other than nickel and iron also make up the core of the earth, some estimates think 1% of it might be gold. Doesn't sound like much, but what is 1% of the core of the earth... it would be enough to coat the entire surface of the earth knee deep in gold.

One can't help but wonder... when all the forces meet on that one atom right in the middle, the collision turns inside out, and the reverse forces on themselves push back, not as energy, but possibly as matter

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