| The threat of Overpopulation
Posted: 8/16/2009 8:58:38 PM |
The religion is not to blame;it is human behaviour.It isthe need
for self control and to act responsibly towards the creation of their making!
Peter, i mean that catholics are not supposed to use birth control and some religions practice polygamy allowing one man to father hundreds of kids thru dozens of wives. In canada we have polygamists and recently it became legal for a practicing muslim to have multiple wives in england and in the middle east. All driven by the "go forth and multiply" religion stuff not based on the available food supply or health or ability to care for the kids. | |
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| The threat of Overpopulation
Posted: 8/17/2009 6:33:18 AM | normaldude on 8/17/2009 2 38 PM
(Peter, i mean that catholics are not supposed to use birth control and some religions practice polygamy allowing one man to father hundreds of kids thru dozens of wives. In canada we have polygamists and recently it became legal for a practicing muslim to have multiple wives in england and in the middle east. All driven by the "go forth and multiply" religion stuff not based on the available food supply or health or ability to care for the kids)
Hi:normaldude:The belief system of the individual is
personal in a secular state and people should be judged
by their actions and not by any label attached to their
character.The Catholics, as I understand it, have had
no official ruling except a caution on birth control.
Surely the question of sexual love between husbands
and wives of Roman Catholics would have been
'sorted out'before commitment?Else the contradiction
arises and by definition they are not acting responsibly
given their stated belief system.They cannot have it 'both
ways';given that they were not dragged "kicking and screaming"
to marry and practise the Roman Catholic faith!
Provided that they act within the law they can do as they wish
but surely they can't blame their church for their actions(
or inactions)?
If the polygamous individuals you refer to truly love their
wives and resultant offspring they should act responsibly
else there is contradiction thus implying irresponsibility
towards their care and proper lifelong maintenance.
The secular laws of England with sufficient grass root support
can change the law to prevent such (irresponsible) proliferation.
The religious organisations of the world at the end of the day
MUST adhere to the (secular) laws of democratic countries!
It is up to the voters to ensure that their needs are met!
I guess that is why we as voters cannot afford to ever "sit on our hands"! | |
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| The threat of Overpopulation
Posted: 8/17/2009 3:55:32 PM | annabelle1962 on 8/17/2009 12 13 AM
(An on the mention of China we also know that the one child policy has has huge social implications. One of the main ones is that boys have been welcomed into the nest to maintain cultural traditions and to ensure the sustainability of the family. This issue has led to young men being unable to find enough girls. It is an interesting scenario that is unfolding as we chat. Cheers.)
annabelle:The Communist politburo of China now wishes to
export their ideology to the rest of the world which is seduced
by their 'mirage' of successful(?) growth figures and trillions of
dollars of overseas reserves.
They believe that they can jail workers from overseas
countries indefinitely without charge!
They work their citizens (minions?)for wages that
are so low that survival is so difficult that they barely
exist(to the benefit of the rising 'compliant'middle class)!
The products they export are of cheap disposable quality
in the main and produces more pollution extra to the
pollution in their creation.
They can demolish a whole neighbourhood for some
politburo friendly businessman and refuse to relocate
the (citizens?!) dispossessed without
compensation and mow their citizens down with tanks
if they ever offer a 'squeak' of protest!THEY sometimes
DROWN FEMALES AT BIRTH IN BUCKETS
OF WATER IF EXCESS TO THEIR NEEDS.
They believe that they can dictate to Australia what
films we can show in Australia and have an elaborate
spy system here that was identified and publicised
some years ago.The unelected rabble were even
allowed it's representative to pollute our parliament
when a prime minister named Howard invited him
during the time of Bush's visit some years ago.
I believe that any democratic government would
have called them thugs and murderers who continuously
subdue their people except for the fact that they
have 'money' and can spread their venom
throughout the world.They even tried to dictate to
the Pope who should be the leader othe Catholics in
China.Their behavoiur towards His Holiness the Dalai Lama
is an outrage!
The Russians controlled their people and the
Soviet bloc lasted for some 70 years;the Chinese
murderers will go down too;they have lasted
some 60 years and their own people will 'get them'
in a similar vein.
Churchill once said that you can't fool 'everybody all
the time' or words to that effect.
(the only Australian politician who has the 'intestinal fortitude'
to call the Chinese to account is Dr: Brown of the Greens; the
rest behaved like "Rabbits") | |
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| The threat of Overpopulation
Posted: 8/18/2009 2:46:49 AM | As a corollary to the above The population will then drop
voluntarily and dramatically because their citizens will see
opportunities in quality lifestyle with upskilling.
Women will conceive later and choose to have fewer
children later in life because they will work to provide
value-added goods and services with personal achievement
in lieu of state sponsored and controlled protocols.
The eventual demise of the communists is inevitable
given the information highways now open to
the citizenry via the internet.
The 'economics' concept of a sudden fall in population
when a saturation point is reached (in China) is thus
a 'fait accompli'. | |
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| The threat of Overpopulation
Posted: 8/19/2009 10:50:33 PM | presumably we all fit in texas [1200 sq ft each]
ya, I know we don't all want to live there, not the point, I think. | |
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| The threat of Overpopulation
Posted: 8/20/2009 4:56:00 AM | Unlike any other species man has the ability to use captured sun energy through fossil fuels. This has taken us out of the loop as far as nature being able to keep a population of any earth speicies in check.
Some other poster has mention that there untold numbers of species whose population swell or subside depending on their need to be.
They all have a purpose, can't currently say that about humans but I think our day of reckoning with nature will give us an idea of who is really in charge of this planet. It sure isn't god or any other religious deity but the process of nature.
Man reminds me of an artist who painting a picture and doesn;t know when to stop always figuring a way to further tweak the picture and then it stops being art and quickly becomes garbage. | |
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| The threat of Overpopulation
Posted: 8/21/2009 2:17:06 PM | presumably we all fit in texas [1200 sq ft each]
ya, I know we don't all want to live there, not the point, I think.
the point is mute because which idiots would say ... sure ... I'll live on the mountain top ... or I'll live in the middle of the river .... the measurements are lame and taken out of context of any kind of livable reality. ...
anyone that would argue along those lines ... is proving themselves a moron.
the most habitable places all over the world are overpopulated or held onto by the powers of the rich.
urban sprawl is a blight that will eventually threaten our food sources. It already has eliminated much of the best agricultural land in Canada and continues to take more for the sake of lawns and shopping malls. | |
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| The threat of Overpopulation
Posted: 8/21/2009 6:28:35 PM | so add a state, geeezz!
so you don't get the point, move on!
I think you are smart enough to get it.
the system , and peoples attitudes , are the problem.
the world could be twice as big, it would still be screwed.
when there were 100 people on earth, I'll bet there were still some of the problems that some blame on over population today. | |
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| The threat of Overpopulation
Posted: 8/21/2009 7:12:10 PM | Verzen sweetie...get back on your meds. No that was funny and kind of logical in an outlandish kind of way, and altogether funny so..chuck out the meds and keep us all entertained.
Seriously though do you really think the people with the know how and the means don't know how to reduce the population? If it hasn't happened yet it's probably because it isn't time yet but when it is they won't hesitate. | |
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