| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/21/2009 5:50:28 PM | It's not just women, it's men as well. Here's the problem....everyone figures because it's only on the internet, who cares? It's not hurting anyone, not bothering anyone so who cares if you lie and treat people like crap?
The bottom line is, though, there are people getting hurt. There's a living, breathing person on the other end of that computer connection. And, thinking that because it's only online just shows that the person thinking that is an uncaring, ignorant jag-off. | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/22/2009 3:08:37 PM | ksand39,
If i were 100 years younger (closer to your age) and lived near you, it would be an honor to go out to dinner, dancing, laughs and so on.
Never give up...
blues | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/22/2009 7:29:14 PM | | All I can say is AMEN SISTER! This stuff takes sooooo much time and patience. But persevere and you will find that ONE. Keep your chins up everyone. Sheeeeeesh! | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/22/2009 7:34:41 PM | | You might want to reevaluate the type of woman you seek. Are you looking for perfection? If you are, she does not exist. Try not to be too picky. Expect bad hair, skin, etc. Look into the heart. Very cliche I know. But very true too. Not all women on here are liars. People are mostly decent. There are always going to be a few bad apples in the bunch I'm afraid! Sorry you are having such a awful experience. | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/22/2009 9:56:03 PM | You know, it's not just women who lie!? I think the same exact thing about men. I don't understand why every guy I have ever met lies to me about what they do and who they are. I'm a more nonjudgemental person if you can tell me all the bad stuff in the beginning and be truthful, then for me to find out later on my own that the guy lied to me. That hurts way worse! I have yet to find an honest man! I know all their tricks and ways that they try to deceive women and it's just horrible. Where are the real men that don't have to hide behind a fasad of lies. Men, be who you are in front of us from the beginning and we will love you a lot more. | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/23/2009 5:45:22 PM | | Women have just caught up with what men have been doing for centuries. What goes around comes around. When the buddy game stops. And by that I mean, men chatting together, laughing about women, maybe then, women will catch up and be honest too. | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/23/2009 5:56:56 PM | "Women have just caught up with what men have been doing for centuries. What goes around comes around. When the buddy game stops. And by that I mean, men chatting together, laughing about women, maybe then, women will catch up and be honest too."
You assume all men do that, go ahead and stereotype more. | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/23/2009 7:07:21 PM | The internet is a tough place to date in; also you need to go slow.
And your anger is a bit much; Yes are women more like men? you are right. But you an adult and you need to also take responsibility in who you are choosing and not pass the buck. Doesn't take much to stick out your chest and blame everyone you are choosing. Sometimes it's the chooser. good luck. | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/24/2009 3:00:42 PM | Hiya,
So... I've read some of the posts responding to your original post and two things struck me. One is that there are a lot of unhappy people on this site. And two I think the older we get the more baggage we carry and the less we trust people.. It's sad but true. I think people are affraid of getting hurt. I don't think anyone starts out with the intention of not saying what they mean. I think we all want to find someone who treats us the way we would like. But, when it comes down to it, it's scary. It's scary to let someone know who you really are, warts and all. Let's face it. We've all been rejected in some way or another or we wouldn't be here. We've been dumped, cheated on, ignored, abused, treated with indiference or any number of other unthinkable ways to treat someone you love. I agree there are those who lie habitually and can't stop... those people are difficult to detect, but there are those who are just regular people with broken hearts just like you. Some get angry, some shy away from relationships. Some have casual relationships to pass the time and ease some of the loneliness. I don't think many of us chose to hurt people on purpose. We're all looking for some version of the same thing. Love. | |
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| everyone appears to be lying - it is the degree of the lie
Posted: 6/24/2009 4:12:50 PM | If someone puts on a picture that is a couple years old, or says they are 53 when they are really 57 - big deal. My issue is with the guy who had 2 profiles on under different names and starting talking to me under the one while he was dating my best friend, who he met under his 2nd profile. I work really hard at not talking to people my friends are interested in - but when they lie about their name, their occupation, their age and their height - you have no way of knowing that you are betraying a friend. ( no picture was posted)
I think I will hang around for the forums as I find them very interesting, but my trust has been broken - no man is worth losing a friend over. ( especially one who lies like that) | |
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| Im getting sick of men lying to me to.
Posted: 6/25/2009 8:55:02 AM | | Hi I would like to reply to what you posted i have only been on this site for a little over a month ,And i am very up front and not shy at all I talked to all 3 of these men on the phone they knew i wasnt looking to have sex we set to meet and things happened , so I had to reset the dates which is no big deal since i was the one that was asked to drive far,, and we were to meet for drinks All these men were clear on if there was chemisrty we go from there meaning see each other again but lies all lies(please can a man answer this? why call her everyday til you see her act like you want the same things she does and you tell her your not looking to have sex right off but at the end you do exactly what she didnt want, I dont mind kissing or touch but sex with a man the fist time you meet !! NO It was made clear as we had been talking over phone a so why did they LIE???a women that doesnt want to have sex the first time you meet is a good thing ,, The eveing went good to ......... Iam sick of the liars on here | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/25/2009 5:34:44 PM | I posted a very close message myself! and u r right, they should put what they really want - just sex partners - instead of all the bs they do put. I am new 2 this and I just wanted 2 find a nice guy 2 go out and have fun w/and becomes friends with and then c where it gos. someone said a man can't get 2 a womans heart laying on her - funny thong is - he just wanted a sex partner 2 - u r right - EVERYONE OUT THERE GROW UP and stop giving us good ones left w/out anyone! | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/25/2009 5:51:49 PM | http://www.heretical.com/miscella/onwomen.html
to quote the great Schopenhauer:
The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflexion but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for, as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defence, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning. Dissimulation is thus inborn in her and consequently to be found in the stupid woman almost as often as in the clever one. To make use of it at every opportunity is as natural to her as it is for an animal to employ its means of defence whenever it is attacked, and when she does so she feels that to some extent she is only exercising her rights. A completely truthful woman who does not practice dissimulation is perhaps an impossibility, which is why women see through the dissimulation of others so easily it is inadvisable to attempt it with them. – But this fundamental defect which I have said they possess, together with all that is associated with it, gives rise to falsity, unfaithfulness, treachery, ingratitude, etc. Women are guilty of perjury far more often than men. It is questionable whether they ought to be allowed to take an oath at all.
PS, I DIDN'T ANYWHERE SAY I AGREE WITH HIM SO PUT DOWN THE PITCHFORKS. | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/26/2009 10:16:49 AM | I feel for you buddy. I've met a few liars myself and repeatedly kicked myself for being upfront and honest. It will all come out eventually anyhow so why waste eachother's time. Life is too short.
What about the 40+ year old ladies that are still "gold-diggers"?? Don't they realize that their Princess Tiaras fell off years ago (or at the very least, are severely tarnished)?? I drive a new pick-up truck, rent a nice home, I dress neatly, keep in shape, pay my own way and I don't owe the bank a thing but I guess that just isn't enough for the majority. Our parents knew the meaning of hard work and "working together" towards a mutual goal. They didn't jump ship at the first sign of trouble either. Our society is going to hell in a handbasket to be sure.
Maybe I should rent a Ferrarri for the weekend just to experiment. LOL
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/26/2009 11:02:38 AM | Yeah a Ferrarri...that's it! Yeah, my Z4 Beemer sure isn't working.......Or maybe it is... in reverse ...maybe women think I am a shallow jerk and only value stuff....
My beautiful daughter says she wants an old pickup driving farmer that is well read and educated....she says she has had it with the glitz and glamour and just wants the simple country life. Women are just as confused as we are...maybe they even lie to themselves.. | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/26/2009 11:49:01 AM | Man...I'm new to Plenty of Fish and these forums are scarring me! Maybe I'm just naive, but I came to POF sincerely looking for a nice guy with the belief that people are inherently honest! It's my first-time trying at on-line dating and you all are talking about how dishonest and conniving people are. Maybe I should rethink the on-line thing... | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/27/2009 3:06:53 AM | [ah crap... not another cut an' paste... 3 identical threads in one forum...? okay...]
Take a break dude....
Take a long... LONG... Break...
You'll be refreshed and ready to jump back into the Ocean of Madness in no time!
   
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/27/2009 11:24:39 PM | Dude, your "copy n paste" theme is hilarious and so true. hahahha
But inna sense, Dego, EVERYONE can relate to your situation, whether they wanna discuss it or not, they've most likely just did (instinctively *sp*, or in time) EXACTLY what KB says in his "themed-solution" to the common sense threads.
As for the "bashing" thing, MOST, not all, but MOST people feel/felt the same way or know someone who's "been there". It hurts, yes, but it's not the end of the world. As they say, and yes, it's cliche'd, "Time heals all"
And yes, Men and Women lie before dating/during. If you give too much detail, it can either defeat the purpose of dating by giving away all information, OR it can scare people away; No one knows... Also, it's a security thing, imo, since this IS a free dating site on BOTH sides, can't be TOO sure who everyone really is/can be IRL. NTM, the whole "a little extra pounds/BBW/Big and Tall" thing is kinda annoying cuz some people DO put put themselves down sometimes (average doesn't mean "skinny-minnie" and a few extra pounds means what?? exactly.... and I mean that in an NON-degrading way to the size a person is.) | |
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| Im getting sick of women lying to me....
Posted: 6/27/2009 11:56:12 PM | | Seriously you must be on another planet because the one I am on has the lying guys. If you really are dealing with lying women I suggest bit caring until you know she is not a liar. Otherwise you will be hurt, I have been hurt and what not but, when you recognize you are hurt you can better understand how to see the signs next time, and know to trust when it is deserved. | |
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