| | Was Hitler a Christian?Page 2 of 18 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18) | Ok, since that appears to be it( not that it has to be) I want to end this thread with the following statement.
Everyone on the POF religious forum has had ample oppertunity to discuss the religion of Adolph Hitler.
Much evidence has been presented about Awful Adolph, and there appears to be a weighty amount of evidence that Adolph Hitler was not a Christian, though he may have occasionally cloaked himself with Christain rhetoric for political reasons. His final religious identification is inconclusive.
Therefore no one on POF religious forums can claim that Hitler was a Christian without being referred to this thread as proof that they are wrong. | |
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| Was Hitler a Christian?
Posted: 6/22/2005 8:44:06 PM |
Therefore no one on POF religious forums can claim that Hitler was a Christian without being referred to this thread as proof that they are wrong.
From your point of view, but unfortunetly, throughout the history of Christianity, there have been people who have come up with thier own version of it, thier own Jesus, thier own commandments, thier own rules to living life.... They have changed it from what it was, all the way back to the day when Paul sold the religion to the romans. (580 A.D., a documentury that is REALLY worth watching for a historical look at the times the bible covers...)
- Oh, but Paul, we like to eat pork...
- No, problem.. Jesus was the prophet sent by god.. He "Changed" that one... It's okay..
Ten years later, Paul was executed via an upside down crucifiction.... the ones they used for herasy against the Roman Catholic Church.
So, who is to say that if the Germans had won, that there wouldn't be a NEW interpretation of the bible, and Hitler would become the second coming, and Jesus would all of a sudden be 6'2", blonde hair, blue eyes, and spoke German fluently. Regardless of the obvious, that Jesus was an Arab.... But hey, to the victor goes history... We won, so we write history as we think it should be. | |
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| Was Hitler a Christian?
Posted: 6/22/2005 9:06:33 PM | Ok, I want this thread to die, and I think we already mentioned the Esoteric Hitlerisim thing, where Hitler was being prayed to. Come on guy, Christianity already has enough divisions without making up possible interpretations of Christianity based on what might have happened if history had worked out differently.
Do you have enough evidence proveing Hitler's Christianity to tip the balance of proof? | |
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Posted: 6/22/2005 9:37:57 PM | "So, who is to say that if the Germans had won, that there wouldn't be a NEW interpretation of the bible, and Hitler would become the second coming, "
Well there might have been a New King Hitlers Version, but they would still have to use the over 2000 intact Greek and Hebrew documents to produce the new version, and unless the Greek and Hebrew language was lost, the version would not stand up to a revision..
Maybe Hitler was the 6th coming of the beast.. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2005 10:59:08 PM | Life goes on.
Nobody owns the public parking spot called life. Its open to Jews and gentiles apparently
or else God would have intervened...and he seems to intervene...for those who follow "the rules" Or, the few American Indians that are left are THE STRONGEST and seem also to have the best casinos and federal payments. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2005 11:48:58 PM | | Oh boy, this got a bit off topic but here a re-read it and take what you think of it. I see caf-flick influence in it but you decide then reach your own conclusions. I am done with this yuck. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2005 11:59:34 PM | | Whoa, brought back from beyond the grave the greatest thread I ever created filled with Wikipedia, Cecil Adams and a Pre Hyphen robert_paulson | |
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| Was Hitler a Christian?
Posted: 8/31/2005 12:04:55 AM | well, his actions didn't show it thats for sure. So I don't know how someone could think that he represents a Christian or let alone what a true Christ-like life style is all about.
You see people, the "nazi/aryan" idea in this context stems from a pagan source over a thousand years ago from soem Germanic tribes that were clearly pagan in their life style. There is your answer | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 12:06:30 AM | He said it at the beginnig of the war...... It was Hitler that said it verbally somewhere and sorry Rob but you got me going on this thread a bit. And someone here mentioned something that related to it.
and what the first publicly anounced Christian church the RC did was adopt alot of the Pagan traditions. God does not like traditions of Man.
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Posted: 8/31/2005 8:51:15 AM | Hot off the press see this and more on the Jesuit's.....
Boy truth shall speak but is the media the truth not likely ask and Pray that Jesus reveals all to everyone.
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Posted: 8/31/2005 9:13:47 AM | Wow Dei I didn't know you held such bigotry against Catholics. For us to sit here and debate how the Catholic church and the leaders of the church dealt with Hitler during his reign of power can take many different turns. Did the church make some mistakes about Hitler? Probably. But then so did a lot of the world. I mean isn't TIME an american Magazine? Didn't Time name Hitler "Man of the year"? I guess some in the Catholic church were not the only ones fooled by a man filled with Deception.
To the question at hand. Was Hitler a Christian? Well from what I studied in school he was raised in Catholism and actually at one point wanted to be a priest. But his real dream in life was to be an artist. His father spurned that idea and Hitler built up a great deal of resentment and anger towards his father (ah tools of satan). Hitler was a bum for part of his life in the early part of the decade. He lived on the streets of Vienna, where he saw the Jewish merchants who had everthing. Lived in a life of luxury if you will. Thus more resentment...more anger...
I could go on and on as I learned a great deal about the man who nearly detroyed the Jewish world. Was Hitler a Christian? Yes he was. Did he renounce his Christianity? Without a doubt as he allowed Satan and his demons to enter him and create one of the worlds most horrific men. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 9:18:22 AM | Cristian means Christ-like.So I don't think Hitler falls under that category.Did he claim Christianity should be the question.Many claim Christianity but are they a Christian?
God bless and take care,
Jimmy | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 10:16:26 AM | Jimmy,
If being Christian = Being Christ like then there are many many people that don't fit the bill.
Hitler thought of himself as a Christian doing Gods work in taking care of the bad people that crucified Christ.
Pagan volleys responsibilty for Hitler back over the net to the christians.
Christian
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One who believes, or professes or is assumed to believe, in Jesus Christ, and the truth as taught by Him; especially, one whose inward and outward life is conformed to the doctrines of Christ.
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One born in a Christian country or of Christian parents, and who has not definitely becomes an adherent of an opposing system.
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One of a Christian denomination which rejects human creeds as bases of fellowship, and sectarian names. They are congregational in church government, and baptize by immersion. They are also called Disciples of Christ, and Campbellites.
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One of a sect (called Christian Connection) of open-communion immersionists. The Bible is their only authoritative rule of faith and practice.
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Pertaining to Christ or his religion; as, Christian people.
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Pertaining to the church; ecclesiastical; as, a Christian court.
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Characteristic of Christian people; civilized; kind; kindly; gentle; beneficent.
Source:http://www.brainydictionary.com/words/ch/christian143784.html | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 10:21:33 AM | Well Christ forgave those people when He was hung on the cross.But I guess you can slaughter thousands and say it was in the name of Christ and that makes it all true.That's exactly what Christ did.He went around slaughtering thousands...lol.I'm sorry but I don't think that makes you a Christian.Slaughtering thousands has nothing to do with what Christ taught.So by your definition, being a Christian is following the teachings of Christ then Hitler was nowhere near close.
God bless and take care,
Jimmy | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 11:00:30 AM | "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." 1Sam.15:3
hmmmmm interesting.
Blessed be | |
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| Was Hitler a Christian?
Posted: 8/31/2005 11:15:02 AM | For one the Ot has nothing to do with what Jesus taught.
For two you forgot to add the rest.
1Samuel 15:2 Thus said the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Isreal, how he laid wait for him[Israel] in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
I must stress, what does this have to do with what Jesus taught.Your argument was that Hitler was like Jesus.Hitler was no way, shape, or form of Jesus.If your gonna prove your point please use the teachings of Jesus and not the teachings of Samuel. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 5:55:00 PM | Hitler was one thing. His "vision" was another.
Hitler and the Nazi party had their own "constitution" or "bill of rights"... In there, it states:
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24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations in the State, provided they do not threaten its existence not offend the moral feelings of the German race.
The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not commit itself to any particular denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health only from within on the basis of the principle: The common interest before self-interest. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 6:26:15 PM | "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." 1Sam.15:3
There are many, many, many accounts in the O.T. that speak in graphically depraved terms like this. I could place these quotes here too... but never do, my nerves would not be strong enough. Anyway, the point I'd like to make is that the Lord is God speaking here and it doesn't resemble a benevolent loving god of any description that I could ever conceive. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 6:33:09 PM | | God is a holy and just God. In that particular passage he warned people of messing with His[God] people[Isreal}.He stated the consequenses of this.He cannot tell a lie so He had to take up for His people.If He didn't then He would be lieng. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 6:36:49 PM | ^^^ I like how you break it down to the nitty gritty.
You changed photos. You're last one reminded me of the late Sonny Bono for some reason. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 6:37:56 PM | | "’Tis not what He had to do did that leaves the wound, ‘tis what He did. " (sorry I don't normally quote myself). | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 6:42:27 PM | lol...Sonny Bono.That's a first but ok.
Sky,
Don't pat yourself on the back buddy. j/k
God bless and take care,
Jimmy | |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 6:51:53 PM | What do you want me to say.God changed my whole life.I was a violent, reckless, dopedealer with no future until God changed my life.I think of God as a father I never had. I know fathers are supposed to chastise theor kids and that's all God does.It isn't for punishment it's for edification. I'm glad he loved me so much to open my eyes to the error of my ways.I should've been killed many times but somehow I survived.Nothing short of a miracle. I thank God everyday for my life.
That probably wasn't what you were looking for but that's what I know.
God bless and take care,
Jimmy | |
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