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 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Porter played man to man coverage on Wayne and when Wayne turned inward to make the cut, Porter then anticipated that the ball was going to be thrown to Wayne by reading Manning's body angle which then allowed him to jump Wayne's inward route and pick the ball off from Manning. Guys like Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu and Charles Woodson are one of the most dangerous backs in the league because of their ability to read and anticipate plays like that and this case was no diff, it was just a great read by an up and coming star like Tracy Porter.
 JackDiamond312
Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 2/11/2010 12:44:43 AM
Steel hit it on the head.....

Guys jumping routes can get burned, but like how you explained it Sum, the action was at the first down, Porter took a chance, jumping the route, but he knew the blitz was on and that Manning shouldn't have a lot of time. Manning saw the blitz was coming, and knew he needed a first down, and needed to get rid of it quick. Slants are a high percentage for picking up firsts in that position the colts were in, it just went Porters way on that play! The receiver needs to gain that inside position to get his body between the defender and the ball, Wayne didn't......

So, it wasn't just that Porter made a good jump on the Ball, which he did, but Wayne didn't commit, he should have gotten his left shoulder in front of Porter early, perhaps he didn't because Porter played him a little further inside, but you can't over analyze this, plays like this happen on every pass play, It's just that the offense has a major advantage knowing where the ball should be going, so usually a receiver is in the right spot.
 hhheavenly1
Joined: 5/14/2009
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Posted: 2/11/2010 12:56:56 AM
^^^^^
I've got to agree.

Everyone watching the game knew by the commentary that both Manning and Brees were making their 'looks' for the guy with single coverage. It's hardly a stretch for the defensive backs to have picked up on this way earlier in the game, if not only by the defensive coordinators. Porter gambled knowing he was going man to man. The Saints' entire season was based on similar reads and great defensive plays to clobber the opposition. Just look back early in the season when the Giants were still undefeated and the Saints demolished them. As great as Brees is - the Saints relied on those turnovers all season long.
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 2/11/2010 1:36:26 AM
everyone forgets about Pierre Garcon OFFENSIVE -10 yards for Pass Interference


Which ended up benefiting the Colts seeing how it was picked off in the endzone by the Saints defense which killed the int.
 Kulbrz
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 830
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Posted: 2/11/2010 7:35:38 AM
Why do i even bother talkn to these 3 dudes lol So mentally messed up hahahahaha
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 831
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Posted: 2/11/2010 8:45:43 AM
steel

Porter met wayne at the 25 yardline, the coverage was light, he took his eyes off wayne almost immediately and focused on the ball, he sprinted just as Wayne was starting to commit....TP snared the pass.

jack



but Wayne didn't commit, he should have gotten his left shoulder in front of Porter early, perhaps he didn't because Porter played him a little further inside,


he committed (as the clip does show) but it was a fraction too slow, Tp already made his lunge for the pass...and as you say, jumped in his route!.........he could not have gotten his shoulder in front of Porter for this exact reason and also because Porter never really stayed that close---->Porter slid over to his left as wayne came running to the 25th, which was about the same time PM threw the pass.

Porter rarely moved from his spot until wayne arrived and it was as tho he knew what was gonna happen,.......now, could Porter have read PM's body motion?......possibly!....but he still had to keep his eye on the ball all along, which was easy because he was hardly in motion.



Why do i even bother talkn to these 3 dudes


3 dudes?....who dat!...the father, son & holy spirit?......maybe you should start talking to yourself, you'll get lots more wisdom that way!
 petebelongs
Joined: 6/23/2006
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Posted: 2/11/2010 9:49:05 AM

if you look closely, that Porter is lined up on Wayne's inside shoulder.


Ooops, I guess I didn't look close enough, because after further review, that statement I made was incorrect!

sum1, you have described the play exactly. Wayne, for some reason only he can explain, stopped in his tracks while Manning threw the ball as if he were expecting Wayne to continue on a slant route. Porter had to have been focusing on Manning the whole way and broke for the ball as it left Manning's hand, leaving Wayne flat footed and with no chance to compete for the reception, or in this case, interception.


arm & legs tied with 4 point leather restraints, only to see her sadistic grin as she puts on her "punisher"...man whatta nightmare for any guy!


Reminds me of an old Richard Pryor movie where all is good when the lady ties him up, until she whips out the larger than life dildo!



Porter rarely moved from his spot until wayne arrived and it was as tho he knew what was gonna happen


He did! It was third and five, and time and again Porter has seen that play on film, not to mention the several times the Colts ran it earlier in the game.
 JackDiamond312
Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 2/11/2010 12:03:43 PM
The fact that Wayne hesitated, and Porter Jumped the route, is why I'm saying Wayne didn't commit. Maybe Wayne wasn't sure of his route, and what I mean by that is , when he came to the line, he might have seen something he wasn't sure of? It obviously made him hesitate, and Porter all ready made up his mind where he thought the ball was going.

It was a gamble for Porter, but it paid off. You see all the time where D-Backs cheat, and get burned when the receiver sprints past them. Again, I think this is getting over analyzed.

Both Wayne and Porter would be cracking up reading this.

Sum, this is why I made the comment of playing, I was a wide receiver in college, and from my experience, I can understand how this happens, what's in the head of the receiver. Wayne, didn't commit, sure, he broke to the inside, but way too late, Porter already jumped him. He needed to get off the line the distance he needed, but by getting his left shoulder in front of Porter on a hard Slant.

Not everyone shows up in every game, that's in every sport. It wasn't Wayne's day, He wasn't terrible, but he wasn't great either. And as far as the drops in the game, it's easy to lose focus and drop a pass, especially when they are easy catches. You just lose focus and start looking to where you want to go.

Seriously, I think some are wanting to make this Colts loss something other than just getting beat by the Saints. If they played again this next Sunday, the game could have a different out come. But as far as last Sunday, the Saints were the better team.

Let me just say, I like a good conspiracy as much as the next guy. I just can't see it here.
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 2/11/2010 12:36:26 PM
Sum how can you tell that he took his eyes off of Wayne? I mean there was no cam angle remotely close enough to show where his eyes were focused at.
 JackDiamond312
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Posted: 2/11/2010 1:08:07 PM
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2010/02/video-tracy-porter-interception-peyton-manning-touchdown-super-bowl/

This also has Porters interception of Favre in the championship game. Actually, isn't this Favre's last play of his career? this Porter interception? Who knows? He might come back for one more. But watching both Favre and Warner's wives, They won't come back if they have anything to do with it.
 vbxtc
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Posted: 2/11/2010 1:16:55 PM
Poster said in an interview on tv right after the game that he had seen that play and route dozens of times on film and several times that game. It's Manning's bread and butter chain mover. So when Wayne slowed to make his break, Porter went for it. Manning got burned for trying it one time too many.
 skoochie
Joined: 4/29/2008
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:06:43 PM
Yep it's a mjor conspiracy. The Colts didn't want the fanfare or the mountains of cash that come with being a SB champion. Thank goodness Sum1 is here to be the only one in America who believes the entire Colts team wanted to lose this game.
You can look at one play ALL YOU WANT. You need to start explaining the other 24 points the Saints scored also. You want to focus on one play as if the Saints only scored seven points. Did Stover intentionally hook that ball? Did Manning intend to go three and out severeal times? You just sound so dumb to me to persist to argue this moronic conspiracy theory when you only focus on one play. What about the other four drives the Saints scored on while Manning "the paid off mole" was on the bench? One play did not determine that SB. Get it through your play dough head.
 wizardofossington
Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 838
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:08:26 PM
@ sum1


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 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 839
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:22:47 PM

Yep it's a mjor conspiracy.


Sure had me fooled. But if that play was fixed I guess it's Ok to call them the New Orleans Aints Again.
 skoochie
Joined: 4/29/2008
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:25:21 PM
^^^Yep, cause one play decided that whole game. The score was 7-0 right?
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:31:19 PM
Don't mind MGM he is just jealouse of the Saints because his Cowboys haven't been in the Superbowl since the first term of the Clinton administration.
 wizardofossington
Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 842
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:33:39 PM
Cowboys haven't been in the Superbowl since the first term of the Clinton administration.


Cowboys haven't been there since OJ killed his wife. Keep them coming....
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:36:41 PM
Keep them coming....


LOL the last time the Cowboys were in a Superbowl, pagers were still populer.

 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 844
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:42:38 PM
Last time a team went unbeaten in the regular season they lost to a 10-6 team in the Super Bowl
 wizardofossington
Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 845
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:43:11 PM
Cowboys haven't won since the popular Macarena dance....
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 846
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Posted: 2/11/2010 3:59:37 PM
^^^Last time they did win it, it was 3 out of 4 years.
 earthlingsRevenge
Joined: 10/30/2009
Msg: 847
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Posted: 2/11/2010 6:01:02 PM
Super Bowl 44 was fixed. Period.

For almost 3 quarters, Manning didn't throw a single long pass, his most dangerous weapon.
Instead, he was throwing 1 or 2 yards lateral passes. Are you saying because of Saint's defense? For heaven sake, Manning didn't even try a long pass to test Saint's defense.

Katrina won the SB, not the Saints.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 848
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Posted: 2/11/2010 6:24:49 PM

Katrina won the SB, not the Saints. Super Bowl 44 was fixed. Period.


So now we all know Skoochie.
 skoochie
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Posted: 2/11/2010 6:28:23 PM
The last time the Girls won the SB the Milli Vanilli sang the national anthem at their home games.
Mylie Cyrus was just an itch in her boot scooting boogie daddy's pants.


What do we know MGM? earthling is now your source for all your knowledge.
 broncsbuff
Joined: 4/18/2008
Msg: 850
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Posted: 2/11/2010 6:37:14 PM

The last time the Girls won the SB the Milli Vanilli sang the national anthem at their home games


NICE..busting out a Milli Vanilli reference...

"blame it on the rain"

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