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What dont you guys understand? Roger Goodel is trying to clean the league up for the saftey of its own player"s and the leagues Name.
When you have coaches talking bounties this certainly does not help his cause. Its bad enough that players will take their shots at other players . The League doesnt need help from the coaches who put up bounties on players to get taken out of the game.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 8:10:03 AM | Oh yeah, sure, Godell and the NFL are deeply concerned with the health and well being of the former and current players in the NFL!
And I just happen to own a bridge in Brooklyn that I'm trying to sell. Are you interested in buying a bridge? | |
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Posted: 4/23/2012 3:09:37 PM | | Let me guess. The Saints are clean as the driven snow in the latest news too because no one knows how they used the information gotten by wire tapped eaves dropping. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2012 9:42:29 PM | When you have explayers comitting suicide due to the severe nature of these people's concussions it affects the league's image!!!! I believe Goodell , due to the suspensions now handed out for shots to the head or any other blatant foul!!!
If he wasnt serious about it then maybe Sean Peyton wouldnt have gotten a year's suspension and Greg Williams might be allowed to coach next year . When is the last time you saw a coach get suspended indefinately ?????
or for a year for that matter in any league. Hell he could care less if a player kills himself or gets paralysed from the neck down. Roger Goodell must be Heartless in your mind
If you cant see tha Goodell is trying to clean up the leauges image then your blind Pete and yes I believe he is concerned when ex players commit suicide during his time as the NFL's comissioner.
You make it sound like Goodell wants to start a NFL Fantasy Football Morgue. This isnt about the NFL making more money were talking about people live's
Keep your bridge Pete someone might want to jump off it some day and you can sell tickets to the event
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Posted: 4/24/2012 7:30:17 AM | The severity of the penalties to Williams and Payton was far more about lying to the Office of the Commissioner and not stopping the bounty when directed to do so by that office, than the bounty policy itself.
The passion for player safety is all about the Benjimans, and if you think otherwise, you are the fool I know you to be!
If I could only get some advance notice on the jumper, I'd bet those tix would sell.
Posterman, the 2002-2004 Saints teams were terrible. The defense stunk and Haslett would not fire Venturi who was doing, in my opinion, a horrible job as coordinator. Whatever they may have learned, if the taps ever existed, it didn't help them at all.
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Posted: 4/25/2012 11:29:01 AM | To Petebelongs
At a time when the ex-players are gathering up to file a suit against the NFL for not dealing with the "concussions issues" at an earlier time you think the the whole bounty scheme punishments are all about lieing to the Comissioners office.
Goodell added to the punishment for Paytons lies and cover up but if it werent for the bounty scheme laid out by Williams himself there would be no punishments what so ever !!!!!
Granted every team may have a bounty or players that like to make hits to the head but I dont think there are many coaches in the league that condone it and if there is they sure will think twice about it now!!!!
Roger Goodell has made more rule changes in the last 2 years to prevent serious injuries and concussions
than any other commisioner since the leagues inception and he's doing this to protect the leagues image.
Ex players suicides arent exactly helping his cause !!!!!
Pete if you think the majority of the punishment's were because Sean Payton lied to the comissioners office then you probably have a permanent concussion yourself | |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:46:49 AM | | Enjoy your blissful life! It is a shame that you can't see the forest for the trees! | |
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Posted: 4/28/2012 12:03:39 AM | So, we suddenly have drawn a direct line from concussions to suicide?
I wonder why Aikman or Steve Young haven't offed themselves yet due to the amount of concussions they've suffered? Or most boxers and MMA fighters for that matter?
Please offfer one shread of evidence that concussions make people kill themselves. And, please don't quote people who have a conflict of interest. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2012 5:01:15 AM |
So, we suddenly have drawn a direct line from concussions to suicide?
I wonder why Aikman or Steve Young haven't offed themselves yet due to the amount of concussions they've suffered? Or most boxers and MMA fighters for that matter?
Quite silly....Right? Let's not forget the amount of steriods injected into their viens. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2012 4:01:52 AM | FootballBaseballBasketballSoccerMarch MadnessTennisGolfLists
HockeyDid Brain Disease Cause an NHL Player’s Demise?
By Sean Gregory | @seanmgregory | May 17, 2011 | +inShare.0
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Derek Boogaard of the New York Rangers of the Toronto Maple Leafs during their game on October 15, 2010 at Madison Square Garden in New York City, New YorkThe tragic death of New York Rangers forward Derek Boogaard shocked the National Hockey League. Now, sports fans are left to wonder: did the violent nature of Boogaard’s game play a role in his demise?
Boogaard was found dead in his Minneapolis apartment. The cause of his death is unknown, and an autopsy is pending. Police did not immediately suspect foul play. Boogaard was an enforcer, a hockey tough guy more known for his pugilism that his scoring skills. In December, he sustained a concussion during an on-ice fight, the 70th in his six-year NHL career.
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While football’s concussion crisis has received a lion’s share of the media spotlight, hockey is also struggling with head trauma issues. A concussion sidelined the game’s biggest star, Sidney Crosby, in early January; he did not resume playing the whole year. At the All-Star break, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said that concussions were up this season. And earlier this year, Boston University researchers diagnosed Bob Probert, like Boogaard an enforcer throughout his 16-year career, with chronic traumatic encephalopathy, a degenerative brain disease. Probert died in July, of heart failure. Symptoms of CTE, which can only be diagnosed post-mortem, include headaches, memory loss, and erratic behavior. CTE has been discovered in people who suffer repetitive head trauma throughout their careers, especially athletes.
Of the 15 brains of ex-NFL players examined by Boston University’s Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy, 14 were diagnosed with CTE. Most recently Dave Duerson, the former Pro Bowl defensive back who committed suicide in February, was diagnosed with the disease. Before Duerson took his own life, he instructed his survivors, in a note, to donate his brain to the Boston University research center. He had been suffering from memory loss and lack of impulse control, telltale signs of CTE.
Boogaard’s family has decided to donate his brain to the Boston University center, for further research. The New York Post has reported that at this time of his death, Boogaard was receiving counseling in the NHL/NHLPA Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health Program. His agent, however, told the New York Times that Boogaard seemed to be in good spirits of late.
We still don’t know why Derek Boogaard died. But if his case mirrors that of Probert and Duerson, and doctors find that he suffered from CTE, contact sports will get a whole lot scarier.
Related Topics: concussions, CTE, Dave Duerson, Derek Boogaard, hockey, NFL, NHL, sports, Hockey
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To Dr skoochie
Doctors from The University Boston have concluded that there is a disease called Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy that results from numerous concussions in many contact sports but I am sure you know better. Why wouldnt Sidney Crosby play for a whole year and why do players now take from weeks to months to recover from a concussion. As for Boxing there has been more than one boxer die in the ring itself after getting knocked out !!! | |
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Posted: 4/29/2012 4:31:55 AM | Approximately 500 boxers have died in the ring or as a result of boxing since the Marquis of Queensberry Rules were introduced in 1884. Some of the worst incidents since the Second World War include:
1947: Jimmy Doyle died of brain injuries 17 hours after being knocked out by Sugar Ray Robinson in a world welterweight title fight. Fifteen months earlier, Doyle had suffered severe concussion in a contest with Artie Levine.
1953: The Ring Annual reported that 22 boxers had died as a result of injuries sustained during the year. This remains the highest figure since records were kept.
1962: Benny Paret died of brain injuries after losing to Emile Griffith in a world welterweight title fight.
1963: Davey Moore died after collapsing in his dressing-room after he was beaten by Ultiminio Ramos for the world featherweight title.
1964: Lyn James, from Pontypridd, died in hospital from a brain injury - the decade's first fatality in British boxing.
1969: Four days after a points defeat by Joe Bugner, Ulrich Regis died after surgery to remove a clot from his brain.
1972: Mick Pinkney choked on his own blood after a fifth-round knock- out by Jim Moore in Leeds. The inquest report said there was no sign of where the blood had come from.
1978: Angelo Jacopucci collapsed and died after fighting Alan Minter for the European middleweight title. European title fights were shortened to 12 rounds as a result.
1979: Willie Claasen died after he lost to Wilfred Scypion in New York. A few weeks earlier he had been knocked out in two rounds by British champion Tony Sibson.
1980: Lupe Pintor of Mexico beat the Welshman Johnny Owen for the WBC bantamweight title. Owen died six weeks later, having never regained consciousness.
1982: Young Ali (Asymin Mustapha) collapsed on the way out of the ring after being knocked out by Barry McGuigan in London. He lay in a coma for several months and died in December.
1982: Duk-koo Kim was carried from the ring in a coma after he was beaten by Ray Mancini for the WBA lightweight title. He died four days after the contest. Subsequently, world championship bouts were cut from 15 to 12 rounds.
1983: Kiko Bejines died of brain injuries after a defeat by Albert Davila for the WBC bantamweight title.
1985: Shawn Thomas died of head injuries suffered in a lightweight fight against Chris Calvin.
1985: Gerardo Derbez died of brain damage after being in a coma since being knocked out by Jorge Vaca.
1985: Jacob Morake died from head injuries received when he was knocked out by Brian Mitchell.
1986: The Scottish-born Steve Watt died of brain injuries after a defeat by Rocky Kelly in Fulham.
1987: Jean-Claude Vinci died half-an-hour after he was beaten on points by Lionel Jean.
1988: Daniel Thetele collapsed and died after losing to Aaron Williams.
1988: Brian Baronet, was in a coma for three days before dying after being knocked out by Kenny Vice.
1989: David Thio died 10 days after being knocked out by Terrence Ali.
1989: Rod Douglas, stopped by Herol Graham in a British middleweight title fight, underwent brain surgery to remove a clot.
1990: Patrick Stone died of a brain injury the day after beating Gary Wills.
1991: Michael Watson spent 38 days in a coma after being stopped by Chris Eubank. He is confined to a wheelchair.
1991: Clive Skwebe died nine days after being knocked out by Ndoda Mayenda.
1991: Patrick Diniso died after being knocked unconscious during a featherweight bout.
1991: Minoru Katsumata died after a 10th-round stoppage by Takashi Hurata.
1993: Yasuji Hamakawa died after being knocked down twice in one round.
1994: Wangila Napunyi collapsed after being stopped by David Gonzalez. He died after an operation to remove a blood clot from his brain.
1994: British bantamweight Bradley Stone died from a massive blood clot on the brain after losing to Richie Wenton.
1994: Michael Bentt was rushed to hospital and had to retire after his WBO heavyweight title defeat against Herbie Hide in London.
You want to talk boxing heres a list of boxers that either died right after a fight or right in the ring itself have you seen Mohammed Ali speak in the last 15 years ????? not everyone chooses suicide as a choice to get rid of the symptoms but then I wouldnt bet that problems dont exist when talking about multiple concussions over a the lenngth of ones career . Not everyone gets Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy everyone is different but this is a very new topic in the history of sports.
I dont recall Troy Aikman taking more than a week off for a concussion and as for MMA fighters the ones I've watched couldnt box their way out of a paper bag , but as I said they are now treating concussions very differently or havent you noticed.???? | |
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Posted: 4/29/2012 6:16:43 AM | On the signpost up ahead, the next stop .....
THE TWILIGHT ZONE | |
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Posted: 4/29/2012 7:23:23 AM | There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the space Petebelongs ears
Skoochie whos been in a different dimension since posting in here will now enter the twilight zone and explain why some veitnam vets comitted suicide while others didnt but stumbles on mixing the MMA with boxing and football.
Bert (Pete) and (Ernie) Skoochie are gay afterall even during the offseason they're inseperatable | |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 11:13:10 AM | There it is! The much anticipated, heavy handed punishments for the players of the Saints involed in BountyGate!
Vilma, suspended without pay for one year! He needed the time off to rehab his knees, anyway.
Smith, suspended without pay for four games!
Also, former Saints players:
Hargrove, suspended without pay for eight games which should be reduced on appeal since he was the league snitch to begin with.
Fujita, suspended without pay for three games.
Wow, I just don't know how the Saints will be able to play with all of these players missing from their roster!
GEAUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 8:36:20 PM | You're the NFL, and Wednesday was a dark and disturbing day.
From the Press BoxBy Mike Lopresti
By David Butler II, US Presswire
Junior Seau was a 12-time Pro Bowl linebacker who helped the San Diego Chargers reach the 1995 Super Bowl and the New England Patriots reach the 2008 Super Bowl.
EnlargeCloseBy David Butler II, US Presswire
Junior Seau was a 12-time Pro Bowl linebacker who helped the San Diego Chargers reach the 1995 Super Bowl and the New England Patriots reach the 2008 Super Bowl.
Sponsored LinksYou're Roger Goodell, the law and order judge of sports commissioners, and you threw the book at the New Orleans Saints' bounty hunters. You did so in an age in which safety has become a searing issue and the post-career problems and tragedies of former players have grown too common to ignore.
You've been sending messages that the culture must change. That the cost of the same old NFL is too dear. So you hit four Saints with suspensions, and the debate about whether you had been too harsh had just begun to rage across computer screens, radio dials and TV channels.
STORY: Junior Seau dead in apparent suicide
MORE: Seau's death fuels concussion concerns
PHOTOS: Junior Seau's NFL career in pictures
Then police say Junior Seau, 43, was found dead in his Oceanside, Calif., home by his girlfriend Wednesday, a gun nearby. They are investigating it as a suicide.
He was a 12-time Pro Bowl linebacker and named one of the best players of the 1990s. He more or less owned San Diego when he led the Chargers to a Super Bowl. He played in another one with the New England Patriots.
All in all, his was a charmed and wonderful career, missing only a championship ring to be perfect. But then what happened?
What caused his post-career life to spin out of control? What made him drive his car off a cliff? What led to a fatal gunshot Wednesday morning? And now you wonder if this is somehow another casualty of a physical game that took too much, one tackle at a time.
"I think we have to add him to the list of those we worry about who could have effects of chronic, repetitive brain trauma," says Julian Bailes, a neurosurgeon at Chicago's North Shore University Health System and a longtime researcher into brain damage from concussions.
"We don't have any strong evidence (yet on Seau), and we know that people commit suicide for other reasons. … But to me it's also concerning due to the fact that he had such a long playing history."
One year ago Wednesday, on May 2, researchers at Boston University issued a report on the autopsy of Dave Duerson, who had shot himself months before.
By Pete O'Brien, USA TODAY
Duerson, a former defensive back, had brain damage common to chronic head trauma, they said, citing chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), which had also been found in more than 20 other deceased players.
In his last note to his family, Duerson had asked his brain be sent to researchers. He wanted the world to know what had enveloped him.
You look at last May 2, and you look at this one, and you can't help but notice the similarities.
Late in his life, Duerson pleaded guilty to domestic battery.
In 2010, Seau survived that 30-foot plunge in his SUV (he told authorities he fell asleep while driving) hours after he had been arrested on suspicion of assaulting his girlfriend. He was never charged.
Duerson shot himself in the chest, an act which preserved his brain for study.
Police say Seau apparently shot himself in the chest as well.
You are Goodell, and you must wait for another investigation and autopsy to find out if there has been another man perhaps haunted by his football past.
"You're looking at someone who is approaching or at 30 years of exposure (to repetitive head contacts)," says Bailes, who has autopsied the brains of former NFL players such as Mike Webster, Terry Long and Justin Strzelczyk of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Andre Waters of the Philadelphia Eagles and Chris Henry of the Cincinnati Bengals.
You're the NFL players union, and if you don't feel the squeeze of a dilemma, you certainly should. One of your own, Jonathan Vilma has been exiled for a year. So you howl at what you see as unfairness and seek to get it overturned.
But what about your members who were intended targets? What about those who careers might have also been endangered as their attackers were enriched by cash rewards from a fund partly marshaled by Vilma?
You express solidarity for those reprimanded. So do other players who hit Twitter en masse Wednesday, eager to show support for the Saints and outrage at Goodell.
But if you don't look at the news from California and shudder, you are blind. That is happening to your past members. Perhaps you read the item noting that eight Chargers from Seau's Super Bowl team are dead, and that was just the 1994 season.
The demons that engulfed Seau could have come for other reasons. But you look at the CTE grave sites left behind — Duerson, Waters, even a 21-year-old player from the University of Pennsylvania— and you know the question must be answered.
There is a chill in the air. A growing awareness that the price tag for playing professional football is more than high. It has been deadly, and Wednesday might have been again.
You are the NFL — the commissioner, the players, the union — and you look at Wednesday and wonder how best to go from here. The Saints and their bounties are not the issue. The culture of the game is the issue.
Early Wednesday afternoon, angry voices from NFL players filled the airwaves, castigating Goodell for going too far. Football is a dangerous and physical place, and that's that. Free the New Orleans Four.
Meanwhile in Oceanside, Junior Seau is dead.
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If this suicide is confirmed as another waisted life due to CTE then this should make you think twice as to what my point was But to Pete this is something I got from the twilight zone and thinks Roger Goodell could care less!!!!
How many players have to killed themselves before you 2 begin to wonder what in the hell is going on Pete??????
And to Skoochie who thinks this is all just a joke and wanted facts that CTE can lead to suicide 's
Absolutely hilarious stuff these stories of players killing themselve due to severe head trauma!!!
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Posted: 5/6/2012 7:09:32 AM | AKAstd,
If you're so outraged about concussios then stop watching football. In one breath you're railing about how others make you puke because they don't draw your straight line from concussions to suicide, then you'll sit there and cheer for the violent game that so worries you! Do you see the contradiction here? You're like a PETA member at a rib cookoff. Are you anti football? If not, then quit your whining about the brutality of the game.
You come in here and post the Seau story without any autopsy report with results from the condition of Seau's brain. This is your style of journalism; throw poo and hope it sticks. What does Seau have to do with Saints? Are you now gonna hold all suicides against the Saints? Why don't you start a Sports Suicide thread and stop posting your drivel about suicide in here?
Aren't you the one who got all bent out of shape because other people would talk crap about the Girls in their thread? You're such a hypocrite! You come in here and talk crap about the Saints and the posters, and then turn around and act like you're some angel. Sickening!!! Hypocrite!!! Fact!!
Do you want to cite one doctor who write a scholarly paper that verifies that CTE causes suicide? I've read that there is a wide variety of sad side affects, but I'm hard pressed to find where there is definitive proof that what you're implying is true. It causes depression. Lots of people have that and don't kill themselves. | |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 2:09:18 PM |
Approximately 500 boxers have died in the ring or as a result of boxing since the Marquis of Queensberry Rules were introduced in 1884. Some of the worst incidents since the Second World War include:
1947: Jimmy Doyle died of brain injuries 17 hours after being knocked out by Sugar Ray Robinson in a world welterweight title fight. Fifteen months earlier, Doyle had suffered severe concussion in a contest with Artie Levine.
1953: The Ring Annual reported that 22 boxers had died as a result of injuries sustained during the year. This remains the highest figure since records were kept.
1962: Benny Paret died of brain injuries after losing to Emile Griffith in a world welterweight title fight.
1963: Davey Moore died after collapsing in his dressing-room after he was beaten by Ultiminio Ramos for the world featherweight title.
1964: Lyn James, from Pontypridd, died in hospital from a brain injury - the decade's first fatality in British boxing.
1969: Four days after a points defeat by Joe Bugner, Ulrich Regis died after surgery to remove a clot from his brain.
1972: Mick Pinkney choked on his own blood after a fifth-round knock- out by Jim Moore in Leeds. The inquest report said there was no sign of where the blood had come from.
1978: Angelo Jacopucci collapsed and died after fighting Alan Minter for the European middleweight title. European title fights were shortened to 12 rounds as a result.
1979: Willie Claasen died after he lost to Wilfred Scypion in New York. A few weeks earlier he had been knocked out in two rounds by British champion Tony Sibson.
1980: Lupe Pintor of Mexico beat the Welshman Johnny Owen for the WBC bantamweight title. Owen died six weeks later, having never regained consciousness.
1982: Young Ali (Asymin Mustapha) collapsed on the way out of the ring after being knocked out by Barry McGuigan in London. He lay in a coma for several months and died in December.
1982: Duk-koo Kim was carried from the ring in a coma after he was beaten by Ray Mancini for the WBA lightweight title. He died four days after the contest. Subsequently, world championship bouts were cut from 15 to 12 rounds.
1983: Kiko Bejines died of brain injuries after a defeat by Albert Davila for the WBC bantamweight title.
1985: Shawn Thomas died of head injuries suffered in a lightweight fight against Chris Calvin.
1985: Gerardo Derbez died of brain damage after being in a coma since being knocked out by Jorge Vaca.
1985: Jacob Morake died from head injuries received when he was knocked out by Brian Mitchell.
1986: The Scottish-born Steve Watt died of brain injuries after a defeat by Rocky Kelly in Fulham.
1987: Jean-Claude Vinci died half-an-hour after he was beaten on points by Lionel Jean.
1988: Daniel Thetele collapsed and died after losing to Aaron Williams.
1988: Brian Baronet, was in a coma for three days before dying after being knocked out by Kenny Vice.
1989: David Thio died 10 days after being knocked out by Terrence Ali.
1989: Rod Douglas, stopped by Herol Graham in a British middleweight title fight, underwent brain surgery to remove a clot.
1990: Patrick Stone died of a brain injury the day after beating Gary Wills.
1991: Michael Watson spent 38 days in a coma after being stopped by Chris Eubank. He is confined to a wheelchair.
1991: Clive Skwebe died nine days after being knocked out by Ndoda Mayenda.
1991: Patrick Diniso died after being knocked unconscious during a featherweight bout.
1991: Minoru Katsumata died after a 10th-round stoppage by Takashi Hurata.
1993: Yasuji Hamakawa died after being knocked down twice in one round.
1994: Wangila Napunyi collapsed after being stopped by David Gonzalez. He died after an operation to remove a blood clot from his brain.
1994: British bantamweight Bradley Stone died from a massive blood clot on the brain after losing to Richie Wenton.
1994: Michael Bentt was rushed to hospital and had to retire after his WBO heavyweight title defeat against Herbie Hide in London.
Holy crap!!! This reminds me of a joke...How do you keep AKATD_33 busy? Well...Tell him that sports don't produce concussion! | |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 7:42:49 PM | i believe in the point akatd was making and purposely avoided to get off the subject matter at hand.
boxing and all sports in most instances are legal hits. boxing has seen a decline in the last several years while football is stronger than ever.
but saint players went out deliberately, tried to mangle and hand out concussions on purpose. the saints are lucky that in these days and times the punishment was not more severe, in my own words it was lame.
back in the days of the jack tatums it made for some good watchin, these days its different the nfl should have thrown the book at the saints. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2012 12:53:15 AM | Skoochie your so lost its hilarious.
The original point I made was after watching a news clip with Roger Goodell .
Reporters asked him about changes in the rules and also why the punishment to Sean Payton were so extreme. Also about the fact that there is a growing list of players filing a lawsuit against the NFL claiming the players were not told about the severe side effects of these concussions
His reponse ......... The punishment to Sean Payton was severe because he wanted the bounty scheme stopped immdiately, he went on to say he added to the punishment for Sean Payton for lieing about not knowing anything about the bounty scheme itself.
With regards to the players filing a law suit he had no comment other than to say he is changing some of the rules to protect the players from themselves as the players are getting bigger , faster and stronger . With the main issue being concussions he wanted to take some of the more violent hits out of the game.
Doctors from the university of Boston Studied Dave Duersons brain after it was donated to them they concluded that there was significant brain damage from the multiple concussions which triggered problems such as dementia, and depression. There were also signs of other problems but more studies would be needed.
Where did I say Seau had anything to do with the Saints!!!
I was merely pointing out After Pete said that Roger Goodell could careless about Ex players commiting suicide!!
That this was no joke and that it will hurt the NFL's Image as doctors have already proved these problems
with multiple concussions do exist if the player has been involved in a violent sport such as hockey boxing or football.
Junior Seau's wife has recently stated that Junior Seau suffered from both Denmentia and depression.
CTE doesnt create suicide but if you were inteligent Skoochie the problems of depression due to abnormalties in the brain have varinging degrees of severity. Who are you to say how severe each individuals depression is, some people can take a lot others cant my point being everyone is different and act accordingly to how bad they feel
Common sence is it not????
Why would anyone atempt suicide by shotting themselves in the chest when theres a chance they could suffer before they actually die ????? Dave Duerson wanted to preserve his brain so it could be donated thus shooting himself in the chest instead of his head . I find it rather disturbing that Seau killed himself the same way
The only thing I am outraged about is the fact that you guys think this is a joke I find it hard that you guys see any humor in this topic.
All I was trying to say is that Goodell realizes the severity of this problem and how it could effect the game of football if these suicides continue. With the Bounty scheme out in the public it will only serve to help the players in thier law suit.
Perhaps its your own paranoia that I posted this in the Saints Forum but with the bounty hitting the news and the fact that there are some players committing suicide . The two have an obvious connection to Goodells concerns be it a law suit or concerns about the players , that he has to figure out how to change the rules so players dont suffer too many concussions.
If the players plan to sue the NFL then Goodell has to plan something in his defence.
MY POST'S REALLY WERENT THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT Its the symtoms created from CTE that caused Dave Duerson to kill himself That why he wanted his Brain studied.
Now the Doctors at Boston university want to study Seau's brain if they can get it from the family.
They are almost positive that Junior Seau's brain will look much like Dave Duersons and only want to study the affects of concussions from violent sports .
If you read my post again I said "IF " it turns out that Seau's brain does show signs of CTE then there is going to be a lot of questions to answer.
Skoochie you have your shread of evidence from the Doctors at the University Of Boston
Now I want your shred of evidence to prove that the Symtoms of CTE cant make some one Suicidal.
I cant wait for your response since you cant even comprehend that there are different degrees of depression !!!
I knew you were stupid.......... but seriously your pretty thick !!!!! | |
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Posted: 5/7/2012 5:04:30 AM | To Petebelongs
Dam its fun irratating you your such an A$$hole !!!!!!!
See you when the season begins LMAO | |
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Posted: 5/7/2012 6:54:02 PM | Are you kidding, you're not annoying, you're pathetic!
GEAUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO DAT, biotch! | |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 4:50:18 AM |
but saint players went out deliberately, tried to mangle and hand out concussions on purpose. the saints are lucky that in these days and times the punishment was not more severe, in my own words it was lame.
HD, that is only the perception and hype! Sounds horrible in theory and in print, but where did it actually happen? How many opposing players were physically maimed, mangled or concussed by those bad boy Saints defenders?
Yeah, in case you haven't figured it out as yet, there weren't any! And the NFL hasn't found any in review of all of the Saints game tape or those players would have been punished.
But it all sounds sooooooo bad in rhetoric!
GEAUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Saints will finish the 2012 season with a better record than the Cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DREW DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 12:16:53 PM | ^^^^^ Maybe no one got hurt from the bounty scheme but it was the intent and the fact that the commisioner had it on tape thru a wire tap . With Peyton lieing about the whole scheme saying he knew nothing about it didnt help the Saints cause . They must of found something they didnt like either on tape of the games or through the wire tap of players accepting money or players would not of been suspended .
Wasnt it one of New Orlean Saints own players who ratted out on his own team???????
You make it sound like Goodell has his own conspiracy to some how hurt the New Orleans franchise just for the hell of it. Had it been any other team the suspensions probably would have been the same .
The Cowboys took a punishment on on the salary cap for apperently running up the cap in a no cap season their appealing it but you dont hear their fans whining aboout it.
Suck it up !!! maybe the players can appeal their suspension but Peyton nor Williams havent got much of a chance since the whole scheme was recorded on tape.
As for the Cowboys losing to the Saints we will see but even with the same horrible defensive backfield from last year the Cowboys beat your Saints in your own house the year before Good luck this year you might need it . | |
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