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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/6/2008 11:16:42 AM |
wisdom is merely the application of knowledge in any circumstance
I would have to disagree with that statement.
wisdom is the application of the correct knowledge in each circumstance
applying the wrong knowledge is very common and not wise. | |
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vedin
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/6/2008 7:21:39 PM | It is very unwise to assume that wisdom is a great comfort in old age! I would much prefer to be wise when I am young with a life to live. As Oscar Wilde once said “Youth is wasted on the young”! | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/7/2008 10:09:05 PM | | Vedin... It is not unwise to cultivate wisdom to aid your old age. It is imperative. Not possible to be wise when one is young. Too much physical impulse, too much ego, too much ...Youth. At some point youth ends, then the work of living begins. Each decade after the age of 50 is the beginning of synthesis of what you have experienced. How you put all of this knowledge together and die gracefully is the relevant question. Fading good looks, lack of time, physical realities become your task. Without wisdom, old age is dreary and a cry for backwards. What supports Wisdom? Well...I like smiles and lack of fear. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/8/2008 3:05:26 AM |
Ecclesiaste 1: 17 Then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom, and
also of madness and folly, but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the
wind.
18 For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.
I think there is no wisdom without great sadness. One way I would define wisdom is that it is the ability to bear this sadness gracefully. It is to expect less than you hope for. It is to put empathy in the place of self-pity. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/8/2008 9:02:50 AM | 60to70 you gave very interesting comments; however, wisdom by my definition would not be much useful in the old age.
Most of the things you get when you do not need them!!! 
I think that some can be wise as young, but, mainly, it would depend on how much they know about the reality of life, love, themselves, and others, and, also, I think that they have to experience different levels and extremes of existence!
At the old age, I just need a good health insurance and God, I think, but what do I know about being old anyway!!!
It is mainly our perception of things that changes everything. You can walk in rose colored glasses while anything around you is collapsing!!! If you can change something, do it; however, if you can’t, laugh at how limited you are or whatever else!!!
It is how you take it not what is actually happening! Of course, smiles are always helpful! Who cares what it is as long as it does not affect your true being!
Talking about fear, I do not even know anymore what it is!!! Nothing is scary enough to scare me!
alyosha, not just the great sadness but also the great happiness is needed... | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/8/2008 9:56:08 AM | | I once heard a quote, I don't remember who, that I thought was insightful. It said the wisest people in the world are the ones who realize just how ignorant they are. | |
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vedin
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Joined: 9/25/2008
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/9/2008 5:15:58 PM |
Vedin... It is not unwise to cultivate wisdom to aid your old age. It is imperative. Not possible to be wise when one is young. Too much physical impulse, too much ego, too much ...Youth. At some point youth ends, then the work of living begins. Each decade after the age of 50 is the beginning of synthesis of what you have experienced. How you put all of this knowledge together and die gracefully is the relevant question. Fading good looks, lack of time, physical realities become your task. Without wisdom, old age is dreary and a cry for backwards. What supports Wisdom? Well...I like smiles and lack of fear
Balderdash! A graceful death is irrelevant – you die against your will and that is that. Being old is miserable, old people can attest to that. Wisdom is of no use unless; you have something to do with it. Decision makers need to be wise, in old age all important decisions have already been made. The elderly have no need for wisdom, what they need is entertainment!
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vedin
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/9/2008 5:37:45 PM | [quoteI once heard a quote, I don't remember who, that I thought was insightful. It said the wisest people in the world are the ones who realize just how ignorant they are.
“The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance.”
Benjamin Franklin | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/9/2008 8:31:31 PM | Wisdom is what makes intelligence (an intelligent individual) valuable.
{ you can quote me on that}
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/9/2008 10:40:05 PM | | Balderdash! A graceful death is a gift not many experience. When I look at a specific problem now as opposed to twenty-five years ago, I shudder at my lack of (thank-you Aloysha,too) empathy! Youth begins the many steps to wisdom. There are many, many steps. You would indeed be surprised at (how) many lost to the sadness of dementia still search for understanding and Wisdom. The Old have very little need for frivolous entertainment....on their doorstep is a Stern and Accurate ending. Still, I think that sadness is indeed a fine underline for a smile. And love those old folks that still garden and sip their nurture. Yep. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/9/2008 10:54:47 PM | Furthermore,
"Even before reason there is the inward movement which reaches out towards its own."
-Plotinus, 111.4.6. The beginning of the search for Money? Fame? etc. What indeed is "its own?" | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/9/2008 11:08:57 PM | Wisdom is something you will find, that brings you to happiness!!!
A line of thought that makes me happy is wisdom.
It is not your wisdom. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/10/2008 3:05:41 AM | from a character in Traci Harding's Ancient Future Trilogy
"Wisdom is knowledge, gained in experience, and implemented with love".
I love this on so many levels. How many learn from a would be teacher screaming at you, or threatening you.. the love bit is important, as is the experience part. You may understand something you have not experienced, but you cannot truly know it (have full knowledge of it).
That could even apply to the wisdom of little children, which is often under-rated. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/10/2008 4:12:20 AM | This
"Even before reason there is the inward movement which reaches out towards its own."
-Plotinus, 111.4.6.
is indeed a provocative insight! Does it not contradict, however, an assumption that many perhaps most of us make, i.e., that wisdom comes from our bumping up against experience? Here (if I take "reason" to be synonymous with "wisdom") the assertion is that we already contain the instinct for wisdom... | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/10/2008 7:16:05 AM | Wisdom is what remains after all possible acts of stupid have been attempted.
I'm getting there... | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/10/2008 7:51:07 AM |
Wisdom is what remains after all possible acts of stupid have been attempted.
The longer I'm on these forums, the more I realize, there is no end to the acts of stupid. 
It appears there are no bounds, therefore, nothing left. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/10/2008 5:44:19 PM | | Asking yourself a question, for example, why do you eat with a fork and spoon when chopstick exist or why do some people eat with one chopstick? | |
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vedin
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Joined: 9/25/2008
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/10/2008 6:35:16 PM |
A graceful death is a gift not many experience
If by a graceful death, you mean a death without pain I agree with you. Sadly most people die painfully. I have some experience of this as I once worked in a geriatric hospital.
Most people do not want to die, and no amount of wisdom will compensate for the life that is forcibly taken from them. That’s one of the tragedies of the human condition in my opinion- we are aware of our own mortality and as of yet can do nothing to stop its inevitability!
It is a fallacy to assume that with advanced age there is increased wisdom. I know a lot of wise young people and equally a lot of stupid old people. | |
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vedin
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Joined: 9/25/2008
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/10/2008 7:07:18 PM |
As humans the only thing for which is not obtainable is immortality!
Now see what I mean? Spoken by a wise young lady!
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