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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/20/2008 9:20:34 PM | | I only posed a question...As adults we can challenge and debate without getting too stirred up. re: gimme a break.Wisdom is also words flying and thoughts demonstrated...but what a feeling! what a stir! Then go away, think about the whole matter and move on in a sensible way. I remember my immigrant parent arguing the merits of capitalism with his NDP neighbour who was also a politician. No hard feelings, just a lot of learning and a good afternoon of debating. Wisdom is separating dialogue from the actual fact of how you live with the knowledge you have fortunately gained. It goes without much saying that a request for water is easily understood no matter the context, language or country. I most certainly support a healthy pride in knowing ...but do not support a guarded approach to what I know. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/21/2008 4:08:28 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^..............................................................
Wisdom is knowledge gained through experience. JMO | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/23/2008 7:30:43 PM | | Wisdom is the mercy that whispers in your ear when knowledge, imagination, and how to live fail you miserably. Wisdom is the call beyond known boundaries and generally understood reality. Wisdom is what kicks you out of bed when you just want to put your head down and not move. Wisdom, I think, is not that dependent on knowledge. Knowledge recognizes wisdom.... but quite often does not actively present with any positive ramifications regarding this knowledge. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/24/2008 2:32:11 PM | Wisdon is something to be treasured and it will make a person successful, not only in work but in person relationships. It will make you a better person and a nicer person to be around. It is underestimated.
A person can have degrees and whatever but if you do not apply knowledge wisely a person will never get on in life. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/25/2008 11:49:44 PM | | Beaugrand...that made me laugh...oh and it felt good. Hmm...could Wisdom also be selective and embrace humour? A child beginning to walk falls...they pick themselves up quickly..and with dogged determination begin again. An adult fails, fails, then reaches with fatalism towards an easy way to go forward. Who is wiser? I think the Sun and Moon are wise. I think Nature is wise. What indeed is Wisdom? What sets somebody who is wise apart from the rest? Statements that are longer than one line synopsis are required. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/26/2008 12:08:32 AM | | B...and furthermore, children with challenges summon from within us a depth of understanding and steady and necessary love that in the end .. they both triumph from the necessary effort. Let us have the necessary strength to take up the task. Indeed. That is wise. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/28/2008 4:31:43 AM | Wisdom is staying out of the Science and Religion forums....lol
Actually, to me it is more important to be wise than to be wealthy, popular or powerful. Wisdom will keep you out of trouble, give you discernment, add years to your life, contribute to the good in life rather than to the bad.
Wisdom will bring you joy and peace even in the midst of trials and tribulation. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/28/2008 9:15:33 PM | | A&E...ran into you elsewhere. I think you may be right in your first statement...but..it is indeed delightful to Debate. I agree that in being wise a person experiences constructive thoughts even in the midst of turmoil. Feelings never rule wisdom. There is a combination of thought and heart. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/28/2008 11:27:19 PM | There is indeed a combination of thought and heart. For some of us the heart tugs more strongly than the mind and then the mind pulls with more strength than the heart.
We are truly torn persons in this world. We use both sides of our brains interchangeably and it can be confusing at times. The overriding factor still remains that in the end what really matters most is who was right.
Being right and not at the expense of others is a delicate balancing act. Someone is bound to be hurt but in that hurting, the person grows and develops. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/28/2008 11:59:25 PM | | A&E...I like when I realize I am right in retrospect. I will debate as necessary but I am too frankly aware of my shortcomings. If somebody has an abiding need to be right, then so be it. Am I hurt? if somebody is righter than I am. Not often. It is indeed a relief. And I think you are right. Lets dance and rally! But I also observe, record and think and react without fail. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/29/2008 3:38:53 AM |
Being right and not at the expense of others
AarAndEpps, I think you’ve hit on such an important combination. I wonder if you’d consider “but” in place of your “and”?
If I might expand on your formulation, I would say, To arrive at what is right for you by way of rigorous objectivity and humility, and to know that what is right for you - absolutely right for you - may not be right for the next person.... | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/29/2008 4:23:03 AM | I seek
the serenity to accept what I cannot change;
the courage to change what I can;
and the wisdom to know the difference.
That's what wisdom means to me (in a nutshell)...
JMO
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/29/2008 10:26:02 PM |
If I might expand on your formulation, I would say, To arrive at what is right for you by way of rigorous objectivity and humility, and to know that what is right for you - absolutely right for you - may not be right for the next person....
I like that, and if you don't mind my saying so, it is so right... | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/30/2008 8:15:22 PM | | Yes. Old Soul...there is such strength and abiding wisdom in what I call the "Serenity" poem. I contemplate these lines with joy and a sense of relief. Had you reached the point where you can differentiate between what you can change and cannot change and accept this with equanamity you are on your way to being wise. But that does not mean you accept the cruelty the world of humans inflict on each other in a blind manner. Then again, reaching for an enlightened state requires discipline and rigour. Vigilance versus apathy. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/30/2008 10:07:42 PM | Vigilance versus apathy.
And that's the key right there isn't it...balance. To find the right balance....something seemingly so simple but so hard to achieve (for me at least). It's something I used to tell my kids all the time while they were growing up and that I now tell my granddaughter......you have to find the balance in your life.
But that's just it...how does one find the balance between apathy and empathy for example? How does one learn to let go...? How can one not think of all the others who at this very minute are hungry, or cold, or hurting....while they themselves are sitting comfortably on their sofa chair in front of their computer with their bellies full? How...? 
A long time ago, I used to have a poster of the serenity prayer in my bedroom and I would fall asleep looking at the words, and it would bring me peace. Now it mostly makes me sad...I realize now that there are many things that I cannot (and that will never) change but that I still cannot accept...and there's the imbalance.
So to answer the OP, I think I know what wisdom is, even if it's next to impossible to put into words, but I'm not sure how one becomes wise (or well balanced).
JMO
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/30/2008 10:23:42 PM | | Any opportunity one has to deliver empathy and action counts. Other than this, you are not alone in this world. You do it, I do it....etc. The world is not on my shoulders, nor yours. But the world within our reach is dependent on our actions and reactions. Do you believe we are never given more than we can bear? We are given too much to bear, whenever any and all of us look away and ignore the reality that is everyone's to bear. Being wise is a state where the tension of being does not knock you out. | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 11/30/2008 10:57:39 PM | Ah... the complexity of having empathy for apathy versus apathy for empathy
and not to mention empathy for apathy for empathy
balance is what allows us to survive in this life time
the better your grasp on balance
the better you cope with the world around you
that's why I always believed athletics [hand eye stuff mixed with strength and balance] is so important to a good life.
I saw that at an early age and vigilance is important but you have to keep a check on obsession. There is that tendancy of humans to go for too much of a good thing.
We all fall victem to the flesh [as some would say].
Apathy fits into Sloth in that warning chart from our collective past.
 [needs to be kept in check]
wisdom is keeping your balance | |
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| Wisdom..what indeed is Wisdom?
Posted: 12/2/2008 9:01:10 PM | | Not true. Many old folks are not wise. But the loss at this time is so much more to be regretted. You had your chance to pick up and just do it. Everyone gets a figurative slap in the head one, two, etc. times in their life. If you choose to ignore, you are then not on Wisdom's path. This includes all that is inclusive to life. And this is also universal. Maybe not, it is harder to be wise in North America. Too many foolish distractions. | |
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