| why does he still lie?
Posted: 11/3/2008 9:41:56 AM | "It's like sin.
Sin is sin.
There's no level of measurement.
One sin is no greater than another."
Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaat?
people repeat this so often they just accept it..
Ok, maybe in a religious/christian sense this is true..but to most THINKING people it is not..
you are telling me that Joe Stalin's sin in causing 11 million people to be murdered, or Adolf Hitler's in causing over 6 million murders (plus millions of battlefield deaths)..
is "NO GREATER" than my 'sin' of maybe having an' impure thought' about a woman I am not married to??
noooooooooo, I CALL B.S..!!
some sins ARE greater than others.. this is BS.."moral relativism"!!
"no-one is perfect, therefore you have no right to criticize anyone else's actions.."
I do NOT believe this..
I would HOPE that most people WOULD criticize, condemn, whatever the strongest word you can use is..the actions of Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin, Pol Pot, Jeffrey Dahmer,or any other murderer, whether s/he killed one other person, or many..and would condemn or criticize anyone who needlessly causes pain to another person.. | |
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| why does he still lie?
Posted: 11/3/2008 10:03:13 AM | | i like how you wrote: "i prefer to look at the more positive aspects of his character", after calling him a liar and a cheater LOL. | |
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| why does he still lie?
Posted: 11/3/2008 10:16:03 PM |
I mean, can you even keep track of that many lies?????
Really they can’t which would explain why most if not all of these type of relationships end up in divorce court.
Lies themselves are unable to stand the test of time. Lies which are build on falsehood need a forever supply of other lies to keep it standing. Soon the very weight and faulty structure starts to bend then collapses on it’s own. Unlike the truth which is definitive and can in fact stand the test of time remains the same truth tomorrow just as it is today. Pathological liars know this which explain why most if not all are always on the look out at for the next “partner” even before the present one has ended. Which explain why most don’t like to tell other partners about past relationships knowing full well their lies will be exposed and the lying would be discuss between the two people. Whenever someone lies it is to keep someone or something in the dark. Lies keep people off balance and ignorant of what is really going on which is why lying is a type of abuse. When one lies that person is trying to control a person and/or a group of people. Control to is also a type of abuse. | |
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| why does he still lie?
Posted: 11/3/2008 10:32:40 PM | Pathological liars know this which explain why most if not all are always on the look out at for the next “partner” even before the present one has ended. Which explain why most don’t like to tell other partners about past relationships knowing full well their lies will be exposed and the lying would be discuss between the two people. Whenever someone lies it is to keep someone or something in the dark. Lies keep people off balance and ignorant of what is really going on which is why lying is a type of abuse. When one lies that person is trying to control a person and/or a group of people. Control to is also a type of abuse.
Share the good word! That's the thing that baffles me to this day is that I recognized the way my ex treated people... especially friends that she eventually got rid of, yet I still blindly went along thinking, "This will never happen to me." After the initial shock wore off, I suddenly realized I shouldn't take her attacks on me personal when we broke up. That's just how she handles those situations... the other person is always the bad guy in order for her to garner the sympathy she needs from those who are still in her life. There were at least 3 friends in our 5 year relationship whom I saw her do this to. They did nothing to deserve the attacks she made on them but I ignored it. I was a "stand by my woman man" even when I knew she was wrong.
The only thing that bothers me at times is that I know there's no way she can avoid using her manipulation on our daughter. I know it's coming. Our daughter seems quite astute and I think she will be fairly resistent to her mother's manipulative side, but I know I'm going to have to pay extra close attention to help her through some tough times when she feels like giving up and just succumbing. Now that I've been through it, I know what she's going to need to fight it. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2008 12:37:32 AM | Because he wants to its how he gets begotten people
Despite apportioning blame to these poor creatures..he likes easy pickings...just as easy pickings like him.
Hes rather good at telling people what they want to hear its what they like, nae desire.
Nice to see your still friends
Your a needy women continuing to be his victim
tell them what they want to hear and let them rue their foolishness for as long as he gets away with it..its why he still at it..dont you think
Woudnt be me | |
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Posted: 11/4/2008 5:42:45 AM | It sounds to me as if this guy has got into the habit of lying... i have come across this myself and more than once. to some people (and i'm including females here too!) lying can seem like an easy option, perhaps less stress etc or the other possibility is that he manages to convince himself that his version of the facts is the right one. have come across this too, its a sort of delusion i guess, but whatever his reasons, he's not only lying to you but to himself also, which of course is his problem!
Once the initial trust has been broken, there can be no way back into that relationship...being "friends" is fine as long as we keep focused on why things ended and not be tempted to venture back down that road again. some folk may disagree with this but i think its fair to say that a leopard never changes its spots!
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Posted: 11/4/2008 5:50:26 AM | What am I missing here... when did a liar become a good guy???
Or if you are a liar how can you be a good guy?  Liars might have some
good qualities but a good guy?? I think not. JMHO | |
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Posted: 11/4/2008 7:35:44 AM | | Once a liar, always a liar. Some folks just can't spill the beans for ANYTHING! Love, Titus | |
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| why does he still lie?
Posted: 11/4/2008 10:25:42 AM | Herewego-64 is right in saying "Once the initial trust has been broken, there can be no way back into that relationship". That trust has to be rebuilt over time. If he is a compulsive liar, then rebuilding any relationship, even friendship is impossable.
Where is the trust? How can you beleive anything he says?
Just forget him and move on. You can't change him. Don't waste your time. He'll only continue to suck the life out of you. Find someone to live your life with instead. You'll not be disappointed. | |
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| why does he still lie?
Posted: 11/4/2008 5:31:09 PM |
"This will never happen to me." After the initial shock wore off, I suddenly realized I shouldn't take her attacks on me personal when we broke up. That's just how she handles those situations... the other person is always the bad guy in order for her to garner the sympathy she needs from those who are still in her life. There were at least 3 friends in our 5 year relationship whom I saw her do this to. They did nothing to deserve the attacks she made on them but I ignored it. I was a "stand by my woman man" even when I knew she was wrong.
We call this the smear campaign and all abuser do it. It is like two enemy on two different sides of the boarder. Both enemies know whoever strikes first will do the most damage. Abuser execute this smear campaign to discredit the victim knowing that the abuse may come out and be expose (lies as well) so if they discredit the victim most will see them as being bitter and spreading lies about the abuser. This campaign work very well at first but sooner or later the abuser is exposed because their lies can’t suffer the test of time and many see the abuser for who they really are. Whenever this happen they just move away (sometimes at great distances) and start the abuse elsewhere. Wonder how many had this conversation with a friend. “Hey haven’t seen Johnny around later, have you? No, can’t say I have! Wonder what ever happen to him?... | |
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Posted: 2/18/2009 5:57:49 PM | If a woman will cherish herself, then she will respect herself.
In my humble opinion, we are all like a tuning fork. If it is rusty, we attrack rusty. If it is dented, we attrack dented.
If we want the true tune, we must clean the fork.
What do you think?
We either live like humans or suffer like dogs. If you sleep with a dog you only get fleas.
MJR | |
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Posted: 2/18/2009 6:04:12 PM | What do all of those you mention mean to your current life? Nothing
What does it mean to hear of one person killed or abused on the other side of the world, or in another state? Nothing
What if I lie to my child? That is a big deal
What if I lie to the person I love? Big deal
What if I sleep with a person with whom I have no intention of staying with the rest of my life? Big Deal
I choose to live like a human being. Save myself for the one I love. I do not want to live like the pet poodle.
If sin causes disequilibrium, and the lack manifests peace by following the path of a "Ten Commandments", then do it. I try my best to do it for I want peace.
If by having sex with a person for whom I have no love does her harm, then what kind of person am I?
Not a very good one.
MJR | |
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Posted: 3/11/2009 6:18:20 AM | | All sin and lying is a sin can become a disorder if it goes beyond a habit and becomes a compulsion. (that which a person has no control over as an addiction) It is a narcissistic physiological disorder that is not talked about or admitted to by many people. To a degree our worst habits are on the verge of compulsions. | |
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