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Posted: 11/6/2008 11:17:35 AM | JadeMuse,
I doubt you know my heart in the least. And I'm not concerned with your feelings about Mr. Obama--adore him all you like, and enjoy your high while it lasts. What DOES concern me is the nearly complete abandonment of serious thinking that characterized this election. Your comments were pretty typical of it, and so is your fatuous response to mine. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 11:30:56 AM | JadeMuse,
I hope you weren't quoting President Kennedy for my sake. He's one of my heros, and he inspired many people to do good things. There's no question that Mr. Obama inspires people--but to what? Follow him wherever he wants to lead the country?
Also, President Kennedy was as proud of his country as Mr. Obama and his friends are embarrassed by it. I never doubted Mr. Kennedy's determination to go to the wall for the United States. But I doubt Mr. Obama's. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 11:35:32 AM | Barack Obama is like the near-perfect husband:
He has that loving creative "thing" that is simply a part of his being
and will continue to be a daily renewed expression of his wonderful character.
Match...
If the "abandonment of serious thinking" to which you refer is simply disagreeing with a
'close-minded, stale stand-in for actual THOUGHT' point of view...?
Uh, yup... Abso-freakin'-lutely!!!! | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 11:50:43 AM |
...now the liberals and Democrats risk eventual voter wrath since they now firmly control not only the executive branch of the government (and most of the judicial branch)
...kind of like - what? - 8 years of a rather extreme republican president.
I am delighted that we have had enough of experience and have chosen intelligence and creativity. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 12:35:28 PM | | Thank you Music Man...: applause: There is definenly hope. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 12:45:27 PM | cncgandolf,
That's like saying the statement "The sun rises in the East" is "amazingly unchristian." It's simply a fact that nations HAVE ALWAYS acted in their own interests. And they should! Wouldn't you expect your lawyer to advance your interests--not yours and your opponent's too? Or is that selfish and unfair, in your book? I expect any U.S. President to represent the U.S., and only the U.S. And I assume every nation we deal with will be doing the same for itself.
The notion that we should apply ideal standards for interpersonal relations to international relations is not just silly and naive--it's also very dangerous. Whether you think it's nice or not, the world is much more like a prison yard than a school yard. An adversary may easily take a national leader's inexperience or ambivalence as weakness. To show that is to invite trouble--as I said earlier, that's a big part of how the Cuban Missile Crisis came about.
Or maybe you think if we apply "love one another as I have loved you" to the Islamist fiends who saw off people's heads on video, and whose entire purpose in life is to kill as many of us as they can, they will have a change of heart and leave us alone. I don't much like the idea of having this country attacked again because millions of Americans have come to enjoy having their heads in the clouds.
What our national security--and the wisdom of entrusting it to Mr. Obama--has to do with the "me" generation or self-absorption is beyond me. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 12:53:37 PM | JadeMuse,
Your need to resort ad hominem attacks when you can't respond to the points shows the lack of serious thought I mentioned. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 12:57:39 PM | Whether you think it's nice or not, the world is much more like a prison yard than a school yard. An adversary may easily take a national leader's inexperience or ambivalence as weakness. To show that is to invite trouble--as I said earlier, that's a big part of how the Cuban Missile Crisis came about.
BOO!
Halloween is over. You can quit trying to scare everyone. (Besides, I recall 9/11 happenening on a Republican's watch.) Fearmongers failed to effectively present your arguement during the campaign and you are failing to scare anyone but yourself. If you need to dig a bombshelter, by all means, go hide and be scared.
After the horrendous failure known as the Bush Presidency, Obama is a breathe of fresh air. Bush was the worst president ever and now we're transitioning into a Presidency that emobodies the hope of a race and a nation. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 1:01:41 PM | PeteredOut,
To mock the intelligence of political candidates because you disagree with their views is to invite people to evaluate your own intelligence. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 1:37:52 PM | Skoochie,
Apparently you hope your contrived cleverness and mocking tone will hide the glaring fact you can't refute my argument. If you knew even the basic history of the Cuban Crisis, you'd know it's beyond question that Khrushchev's belief Kennedy was weak helped bring it about. And he formed that belief after the same sort of hasty in person meeting Mr. Obama wants to have. The parallel was discussed during the campaign, and it's alarming that Obama gave no indication he was even aware of that 1961 Vienna summit.
A number of experts who have nothing to do either with the current administration or with Sen. McCain's campaign have written about the threat of terrorists making a nuclear or biological attack on the U.S. I suppose they study these threats just to "scare" people. Or do you imagine they must manufacture bomb shelters on the side?
Your claim that Mr. Obama embodies the hope of a nation is as trite as it is exaggerated. Speak for yourself. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 1:50:28 PM |
Your claim that Mr. Obama embodies the hope of a nation is as trite as it is exaggerated. Speak for yourself.
I believe I'm speaking for the majority of the nation.
We all know that terrorism is a sustained threat. Terrorists have tested the two previous presidents right here in America. They are likely to test Obama in a similar manner as they would have tested McCain. McCain wouldn't have immunized us from terrorism as the majority of his supporters believe.
So now if an act of terror is committed against the US, it will be Obama's fault, right.  | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 2:52:29 PM | | May I suggest, that although he was not ALL our choice for President, he is who is elected, and let's give him a chance, and prays he does a good job. I have my concerns, sure, but I am willing to support him and give him every opportunity to show me that he is half the leader ya'll think he is. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 3:00:14 PM |
I'd bet on Obama's IQ against McCaine's any day... (mine probably beats McCaine's too).
Well it might help that you know how to in the very least spell his name correctly...
Glass house? | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 3:01:55 PM | (Besides, I recall 9/11 happenening on a Republican's watch.)
President Clinton was offered Bin Laden by the Sudan government. Clinton refused. Osama was free to roam and do whatever he wished, which included making and carrying out plans to attack America on its own soil. This was prior to The Bush presidency. Yes, it happened on a republican watch because of the failure of the previous president to take any action.... You know the ol saying... a stitch in time saves nine ......
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm
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Posted: 11/6/2008 3:08:14 PM | | My fault for bringing up 9/11 and terrorism. That argument has it's own place and is off topic. The moderators don't care for the topic and I shouldn't invite them in to police us. Good point though Dave. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 4:05:34 PM | | Geezo, on one thread it's "The majority has spoken" and on another it's "whine, whine, whine, whine"... | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 4:13:10 PM |
The guy's ancient history (pun intended). Why do I need to know how to spell his name?
If he's ancient history then why you bothering in the first place?
You don't "need" to spell his name correctly. However, since you're touting your " IQ is probably higher than his", it's a bit of a dichotomy that you cannot spell his name correctly since it's been in the news every single day for the last year.
Just sayin.... | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 4:14:40 PM |
Geezo, on one thread it's "The majority has spoken" and on another it's "whine, whine, whine, whine"...
Have the people spoken about how to spell John McCain's last name when I wasn't looking? | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 4:29:10 PM | ^^Oops, sorry Libby, I was going with the original thread rather than the spelling part. I thought that was kind of an aside...
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Posted: 11/6/2008 4:34:54 PM |
Ethnic voters overwhelmingly as a percentage, voted for Obama not because of his politics, but because of his race.
It puts a nice bright punctuation point at the end of the sentence which started with the word slavery. MLK must be smiling. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 4:39:52 PM | John McCain was not my first choice, I would have much preferred Mitt Romney or Giuliani ......
Even though I am not a democrat, I think it is an extremely positive indication that the country has moved a great distance from our past prejudices in electing Obama and that his winning has shown that people are finally becoming color blind and his color had nothing to do with the majority of citizens voting for him. He was voted in not because of the color of his skin but for the context of his character and his intelligence.
How he does as president remains to be seen and only time will tell if the people made a good choice. I am hopeful that he chooses Colin Powell for secretary of state. I cannot think of a better candidate for this particular position.
Since Obama will soon be my president.....regardless of his party, he has my support and I wish him well....
Oh and Pete ........ chill the #@$%&*@$# out bro and learn how to spell  | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 4:40:04 PM | I know you are... and to many people with low IQ's, retaining searchable information like that is important. It's not like not knowing how to spell "tomato"...
Yes, it is definitely the person with the higher IQ that looks like the smarter person at the expense of others for hours on end on a dating site forum.  | |
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Posted: 11/6/2008 5:29:36 PM | PeteredOut "BTW, the ads... a 6-year old could see through them... geez..."
You do realize that over 40% of the voters that showed up to vote didn't see through them? I know. It boggles my mind, too. It actually frightens me that such a high percentage continued to swallow the lies and fears and warmongering of the McCain/Palin campaign.
The financial meltdown is an unquestionable result of the failure of trickle down theory in an economy with NAFTA outsourcing. Yet, that is exactly what McCain promised... more trickle down. It isn't working. Yet people were voting for 4 more years of the failed economic approach. | |
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