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 OpieDopey

Joined: 6/16/2006
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Posted: 1/19/2009 9:37:13 AM
I have never seen someone as deep in denial as kit. She believes her own lies. I guess she mistyped...he called himself at work, took off early to have a beer and discuss toys with her....I suppose he made the OP here as well?
 mrtonks42

Joined: 3/31/2008
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Posted: 1/19/2009 10:23:50 AM
Probably because he's afraid he can't use them lol It's all about choices personaly I like to, try telling him It's not about his miss givings It's about what you like.
 rdcnorm

Joined: 3/7/2007
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Posted: 1/19/2009 10:41:54 AM

try telling him It's not about his miss givings It's about what you like.

Yep that the point,, it's all about kitten,, what she likes,,,
 NightJ1986

Joined: 3/11/2005
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Posted: 1/19/2009 10:59:41 AM
My opinion is that they enhance the evening.

If it drives her absolutely wild then I'm all for it because she would have had such a terrific time that she would want to do it again... and again... and again later on.

Only concern that I can think about is one where she's enjoying the toys so much she forgets about the man. Just sitting there and not having a clue how to join in and take part in her pleasure. Sometimes I think a lady has to speak up and tell the guy what she wants him to do, don't let him sit idle... (I hate that...) keep him busy ! I guess I worried sometimes that she would use the toys without me knowing and I would obviously be in the mood and she'd satisfy herself and have no interest in me later. That would suck.

>.>

Did I hit any nails on the head there?
 mspris

Joined: 1/6/2008
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Posted: 1/19/2009 11:23:41 AM
As for him bringing a vagina to bed, I bought him a pocket _ _ _ _ _ and he said he didn't like it, then after we broke up he called and asked if I still had it and could he have it! Toys are great as long as both partners a comfortable with it .
 MsMicki

Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 1/19/2009 11:24:45 AM

Did I hit any nails on the head there?


Not for me u didn't.

I'm not of the mind to "forget about the man".....
I might have my hands full....but I still have a mouth!
or he might be doing the same things as me..and giving himself pleasure...
or he could be inside me...and me just stimulating my clit....

and honey.....I've never given myself an afternoon orgasm.....and not wanted my man that evening. If anything.....I'll be even more ready for the "real deal".
 Scott_Maxmuscle

Joined: 1/9/2009
Msg: 257
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Posted: 1/19/2009 11:50:52 AM
Depending on what it is could make the difference I guess. Ive never had a girl bring anything out, but I have brought out small vibrators that can fit on their c%$t while you do your thing. Feels good for both, put neither I nor they have ever wanted to do that all the time. It's rare and thats what makes it fun. Maybe some guys think it means their not enough, or that it will be the standard from then on. Who knows. If your going to, I would start by trying to bring something in that will do something for you both, not just yourself. See where it goes from there. They have vibrating rings a guy can wear that should work nicely, for you both!
 MsMicki

Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 1/19/2009 11:56:11 AM
Good Lord Duckman....
you inexperience is showing.....

We don't just grab our toy......do ourselves.....and forget we have a real live man in the room with us!!

It's called "mutual" satisfaction.....
and toys are an "enhancement" to that.
 NightJ1986

Joined: 3/11/2005
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Posted: 1/19/2009 12:05:41 PM
Not for me u didn't.

I'm not of the mind to "forget about the man".....
I might have my hands full....but I still have a mouth!
or he might be doing the same things as me..and giving himself pleasure...
or he could be inside me...and me just stimulating my clit....

and honey.....I've never given myself an afternoon orgasm.....and not wanted my man that evening. If anything.....I'll be even more ready for the "real deal"


Jeez.... well, with the lady I was/might still be with for awhile.... its like.... she has a couple orgasms from the toy or whatever and she's done, or she has me come in and 10 minutes later she doesn't want anymore while I'm just starting to get revved up.

Has left me frustrated on more than one occasion and is why I gave the toys the evil eye when she whipped them out because I was like "hey ! You're stealing my pleasure time !"

So that's where I got my concerns from anyway.... never did find out what was missing. Low endurance on her end I guess?

I like to take it slow and go awhile, perfect average for me would be around 2 hours (ahh... its good to be young !) but she likes 10-20 minutes. Closer to 20 minutes if she gets to use her toy.

Doesn't really like anything kinky like oral... (which I don't really consider... kinky... just a fun activity to do, might have to do with kissing + where my tongue was before so...) I guess that's why I'm browsing this forum section, looking for ideas I can use to spice up an otherwise vanilla + always one position (me on top) sex life.

 gooseman68

Joined: 10/20/2008
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Posted: 1/19/2009 12:17:48 PM
Have you ever thought that the reason you CAN'T have an orgasm with a man is because you've been riding your toys too much....and you've become desensitized?

I could masturbate 3-5 times a day with some good porn and lotion...but then my partners would be frustrated and unable provide my pleasure. I have a friend who dated someone just like you. He demanded that she stop using it to prove that she was being numbed by it. It took 3 months, but she eventually regained sensitivity, and they were finally able to provide each other with great orgasms. I would strongly suggest that you do the same.
 Scott_Maxmuscle

Joined: 1/9/2009
Msg: 261
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Posted: 1/19/2009 12:21:01 PM
men disapproving of toys as addition in lovemaking
Posted: 11/14/2008 839 AM
(some) guys don't like you using your toys during lovemaking because:

* The toy may be bigger than him (insecure)
* The toy may get you off better than just with him.
* They think you don't need them there at all, (which of course is true)

Now to just find that perfect vibrator to make men obsolete.

^^ whoaa...crazy cat lady in the making! post started off good, then degraded into venom aimed at anything with outside plumbing. how sad. nothing to see here, move along.....
 NightJ1986

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Posted: 1/19/2009 12:26:21 PM
Disagree with that quote. If it was like that, why even have sex other than to reproduce?

Like some other posters have pointed out, toys and porn do not give you love, intimacy, a connection, warmth, etc etc. all of those things that come with having a partner to please with your skills and being pleased by that partner in return.

There will never be a toy out there that can replace that, might as well marry a robot if that's what you want, who needs flesh and blood hm?
 Scott_Maxmuscle

Joined: 1/9/2009
Msg: 263
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Posted: 1/19/2009 12:30:56 PM
Men who disapprove of including toys when having sex with their partner are either: So focused on themselves that they are all you'll ever need to get off or very unsure of themselves and think you'll like the toy better and won't need them at all. Neither type of man will understand that it's just for some added fun.

In either situation, tell them how it is or show them the door. You don't need to deal with either type of man.

^^ I hope that advice works in the other direction as well. Maybe if she doesn't like anal he should show her the door, after all he wants it right? Then he's damn well entitled to it and anything else he wants in the bedroom...right? Didn't think so. Glad we got that cleared up. Seems the second any of us are the slightest bit unhappy sexually it's time to move on. Hmmm. Don't get me wrong, I understand her problem, what I don't understand is the vitriol in so many of the female, and some male responses. Women generally like toys more than guys because they have such an amazing selection of cool toys that actually do something for them. From where most guys sit, toys for us are ok, nothing great. So although we will use them on you and enjoy that, we won't be stumbling all over ourselves to pull them out of the drawer the same way a woman would. If everything was reversed....everything would be reversed, if you get me.
 tomterrific24

Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 1/19/2009 12:49:40 PM
Oh what a difference a toy can make....as long as it doesn't replace me. LOL Seriously though, I can't even begin to tell you how enhanced our times together are when a toy is brought into play. They add a dimension that wasn't there before. Not to mention how, once certain barriers are brought down, conversation flows and even more suggestions are brought to the serface. TOYS ? I'm al for them so count me in. Of course like they say in the commercials "Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby". But my oh my how those toys do help !
 justaguy6302

Joined: 7/12/2008
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Posted: 1/19/2009 12:57:07 PM
When you find a woman that can have multiple orgasms you will realize why a toy is a good thing. you may be able to keep up for a while but unless your a pornstar, she is going to have her motor running at high speed when your sputtering out of gas. use the toy to maintain her level of arousal and keep it there. switching back and forth gives her new feelings and sensations. if your afraid the toy will feel better, you must be from a diff planet. they come in all diff sizes and uses. i say get them and use them. your sex life will never get boring.
 ironmikelaw

Joined: 1/5/2009
Msg: 266
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Posted: 1/20/2009 11:29:23 PM
Ok Im going to lay it down for the everyone on this one. And in keeping with my '09 theme of keeping it real.. Im going to do that.

This tread is much like another on that was started:
A lot of Women don't Like Sex. Please feel free to see what I wrote on that subject.
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/10676015datingPostpage9.aspx

This one is a lot alike and im going to keep it real.

The point is fellas, if your woman suggests or hints that she wants to bring toys in with sex. She is sending you a signal... The Signal is... YOU ARE NOT PLEASING HER!!!
It prolly boils down to your****is too small for her to get an orgasm from and she wants to bring in toys to help that situation.

This is Definitely a Mans Worst nightmare and no man wants to be real enough to accept it, so what does he do? He gets mad and pissed off and dont want to talk about it. 9 times out of 10 the man knew it before the woman even brought it up and hes sensitive about it. You know you are not pleasing your lady if:
During sex... You have came 3 times before you lady has even had her first orgasm.
During sex... 20 minutes of dry humping and sweating, trying to her to her first orgasm after u have had like 4.( dont think your beating it up and shes lovin it)
You booth know whats going on.

Women are actually the cause of this problem. They dont communicate while dating and in the first phase of the relationship. They knew from Prolly the first few times when yall where having sex, she is not being pleased. They are in denile and say things like: Sex is not everything in a relationship. Maybe it will get better after we get married... and somn more crazy excuses. Then the next thing u know, you are married and now its a problem... She springs it on you.

This is not the end of the world though fellas. She Loves you and she wants to make it work. So thats why she wants to bring toys in. We as men just have to be man enough to accept that fact that this will in fact help the relationship. You have to think about her. If she never has orgasms during sex then she will NEVER want to have sex. She will be depressed and unhappy and will prolly cheat on you.
No one wants that, but one thing We must realize, men and woman is that:
SEX is Stronger than Love...
Point blank. If you are not getting it like you need it, then sooner or later the urge will overcome you and you will find it some where else. Men and Woman reguardless.
You can love a person to death and still cheat and that is why.

So Fellas we have to get over this emotional hump and realize that we love our ladies and want this thing to work too. You have to get in the mind frame that you want to join in with the toys to help please her. MAke sure that you are joining in! Toys can open up a new world of sex. Women keep your men involved. This will keep him from thinking that you will ditch him for the toys. This means both of yall go to the novlety stores and pick the toys out together. This is not the end of the world as long as you comminicate and stay real with each other.
A pleased Woman will Want to have Sex More.
Thats a fact

Men try this... Call your Lady before you get off of work... Talk dirty to her a little bit and tell her to get the vibrator and get it nice and warm for you before you get home.

Essentially this will let her get her orgasms out of the way before hand, so you can get home and cum like 2-3 times and get her to cum one more with the toys, that way Both are happy.

Relationships are about communication and compromise. keep the lines open

I hope this will shed somn light on this subject.

O and P.S
A woman that says, she can't cum off of just sex, prolly never had a****that was big enough to make her cum during sex..
think about it.
 wild heart

Joined: 10/14/2007
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Posted: 1/21/2009 4:33:52 AM
A woman that says, she can't cum off of just sex, prolly never had a****that was big enough to make her cum during sex..think about it.


The G-spot is not that far up the vaginal cavity, I mean if a man can reach with his fingers?! Not all women are the same and not all women orgasm the same. Do a bit more research.

For some women, a penis that is too large will do nothing but hurt her, so how in hell is she going to orgasm?! I agree, too small might not work either but the best orgasms I ever had were from an average sized guy.

It's information such as you are posting that MAKE alot of women NOT say anything about what satisfies them because they think they are abnormal.

But I don't know anything either

And FYI - lots of men and women use use toys as an addition because they are on medications (even birth control screws with your libido!) for various reasons.
 opnmydm

Joined: 3/23/2008
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Posted: 1/21/2009 4:40:34 AM
i dont get it, why would someone object to toys?
 rdcnorm

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Posted: 1/21/2009 5:25:41 AM
A woman that says, she can't cum off of just sex, prolly never had a****that was big enough to make her cum during sex..
think about it.

I don't think it's the size that really matters,
A womans G-spot 1 1/2" -2" in her sweet spot,,

Note:
The clitoris probably holds the key to female ejaculation for most women. If the clitoris is not stimulated a woman is less likely to become highly aroused. If she is not highly aroused her prostate may not fill with increased amounts of fluid. If her prostate is not swollen she may not have a G-Spot. If her clitoris is not stimulated she is less likely to experience orgasm and the rhythmic contractions of the pelvic muscles that expel and release the ejaculate. So quite simply before you can go exploring for the G-Spot you must master clitoral stimulation beforehand. There are women who are orgasmic and ejaculate when their G-Spot or vagina alone is stimulated but the majority need direct clitoral stimulation if they are to experience orgasm.

Toys are great,, but,,, put your hands tongue and lips to works, if you really want to please your lady,,
 Ear to hear

Joined: 6/10/2008
Msg: 270
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Posted: 1/21/2009 5:50:15 AM
Gotta love it.....
 Lkng4Fun66

Joined: 5/24/2008
Msg: 271
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Posted: 1/21/2009 6:02:02 AM
Some good info here and I dont know about the rest of you,

But I have already ordered a we vibe for my next serious partner :-)

To paraphrase"always be prepared" :-)
 perdoo

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Posted: 1/21/2009 6:20:52 AM

and toys are an "enhancement" to that.


well the ms wasn't too approving of the Xbox 360.. but she liked the vibrating feature on it's controller


in seriousness tho..OP .. yer bf has issues.. he's intimidated.. reassure him that BOB doesn'tdo the liitle things that are so important, like, the yardwork, taking the garbage out, leaving his clothes on the floor...

Wait a sec.. you might wanna leave him and go with BOB
 ironmikelaw

Joined: 1/5/2009
Msg: 273
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Posted: 1/21/2009 6:35:34 AM
There are actually two spots. The G-spot as you were saying and the A spot, that is back further than the G-spot.

Of course women are different just as mens sizes are different. Its all about finding some one compatible to you.

I woman that is filled up by a man is More likey to have an orgasm during sex.
A bigger****as in GIRTH and length will stimulate both spots and will more liky bring her to an orgasm


It's information such as you are posting that MAKE alot of women NOT say anything about what satisfies them because they think they are abnormal.

WTF ... thats stupid.. Women know exactly whats going on.


And FYI - lots of men and women use use toys as an addition because they are on medications (even birth control screws with your libido!) for various reasons.


That isnt the case... Look at the beginning of the thread and see what she wrote.
 wild heart

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Posted: 1/21/2009 7:00:26 AM

I woman that is filled up by a man is More likey to have an orgasm during sex.
A bigger****as in GIRTH and length will stimulate both spots and will more liky bring her to an orgasm


Not all women are the same and not all women orgasm the same. Do a bit more research. Not all women orgasm that way. You didn't specify girth as well as length in your original posting. Too much length hits the cervix and no woman is going to care about your girth in that case. Read rcdnorm's post.


WTF ... thats stupid.. Women know exactly whats going on.


Just how many women have you spoken to openly about their past sexual experiences? I talk to many women of varying ages and because of their generation or their age, their sex life suffered or suffers. Most people on here won't admit that they didn't know what they were doing or that they didn't know their own body until they were well into their 30's. Why? Because of comments like you posted among other things. Assuming ways that women or men "should".

Our society has always held this notion that to be cool, one should act like they know everything about sex. I've seen men do this posturing all the time in discussion and then I find out they don't even know what herpes is.

My comment about medications was not directed at you.
 ironmikelaw

Joined: 1/5/2009
Msg: 275
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Posted: 1/21/2009 7:18:45 AM
You are right... That can be argued all day long...


Our society has always held this notion that to be cool, one should act like they know everything about sex. I've seen men do this posturing all the time in discussion and then I find out they don't even know what herpes is

Lol

Yeah you are right... I am definitely not an expert. I just am going off my experiences and talking to women and men alike.

The most important part was the first part of the thread. I was refering to the other thread that I had posted.. It is linked...

Ty for setting me straight. I can make mistakes too
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