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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/25/2008 6:54:07 AM | Well, i think it has more to do with the human ego. We think WE are the ONLY ones who are in this WHOLE UNIVERSE. We are the greatest thing ever and nothing can be more intelligent then we HUMANS. Nothing else is alive like us and we are GODS favourite. Not only did GOd create 100's of trillions and trillions of Galaxies which have no life apparently to all these great minds down here on earth because you know we travelled far beyond our own galaxy to really know.
We barely know anything about the planets around us let alone others that trillions of life years away. To sit here and think we are the greatest thing ever in the universe.
Sadly we are not. Not sure when we will find out how badly we are behind but we will one day find out. We are so great yet there are many countries with ppl living in the worse conditions ever, yet we wanna spend trillions of dollars for bunch of crap instead of making a better life for your earthling brothers. We have lost ou focus and our sense of worth for one another. We are a bunch of self centered greedy pigs. We only care of #1. So even if there were other societies here they most likely dont respect us enuff to wanna meet us. We are ignorant and selfish as hell.
So party on and get wasted and keep watching you favourite shows because nothing else matters right !!!!!!! | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/25/2008 4:02:29 PM | If there was a "god" that created us, why did he create us so poorly that our species has over 4000 heritable defects?
All cultures the world over tell about men who came from the sky. They created a human. They taught him agriculture, animal husbandry, and many other things useful to his survival. They were described as being tall, fair skinned with blue eyes and blonde or red hair.
Why do some of you think it so impossible for the universe to be teeming with life, including humans?
I support the idea that life the universe over is very similar. DNA is universal not unique to Earth.
Why would it be necessary for one species to "evolve" into another?
For those who think that humans "evolved" would you explain to me where these people fit in this .evolutionary train?
http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/pics/skulls.html | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/25/2008 7:22:24 PM | Only the nasty x-tra terrestrial aliens come on this side of the universe.....you know the ones who are smart enough to conquer time and space but with a fascination for the human anus.
And dumb enough to crash in places like Roswell. The smart aliens stay away from this side of the fence, they know we live in the cosmic ghetto. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/25/2008 8:03:19 PM | I was digging in the backyard to make a pool.
Yeah I know it's November, shhhh, be quiet.
Anyhoo, I found a stargate!
That should be proof enough, that we are indeed descended from other beings. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/26/2008 12:32:36 AM | >>>We think WE are the ONLY ones who are in this WHOLE UNIVERSE.
Ugh.......why does this topic have to be about the existence of aliens in the first place? Isn't there plenty of topics that already address this?
>>>Not only did GOd create 100's of trillions and trillions of Galaxies which have no life
That belief has nothing to do with ego- it has to do with hard evidence. And as far as evidence shows, yes, the universe is littered with lifeless worlds that are hostile to the only example of life known in the universe- our own.
To say that alien life is likely because the Universe is large is like saying Mermaids are likely to exist, since 3 times the surface of the planet is underwater than above it. Its a nice notion- but is there any evidence for Mermaids? No- Is there any evidence for extraterrestrial life? No.
On a side note, Hundreds of Trillions of Galaxies is an extreme exaggeration- theres likely to be 1/10 of one Trillion(100 Billion), but it could be less. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/26/2008 8:47:46 AM | ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?
WOW now that is what i call EGO....as for saying fact that there is nothing beyond our galaxy...come on ppl we barely made it past the friggin moon ....geez man no one on here will ever open to ideas that they might not understand. its funny thoe. Sure dont open your mind to where it falls out come on....its call being realistic.
With the amount of planets and galaxies out there, which we have on clue as to how much. All of it is just speculation really. how can we say or think anything when we have not even been to Mars. Come on...
There could be a whole other huge society out there, or could be all space with planets with no life at all. We will never have any idea til we get some kind of way of travel that doesnt take us 1000 yrs to get anywhere | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/26/2008 10:02:50 AM | I absolutley believe that life exists beyound our solar sytem, whether it be in our galaxy (Milky Way) or in some other planetary system in another galaxy. It's all comes down to the laws of probability.....numbers game.
Now how advanced that life form may be is a different story. The whole precept of little grey aliens buzing around space maybe a little far fetched, but single celled organisms on the path to evolution may not be.
Yes, life is a by product of the creation and evolution of the universe. Anyone who does not understand that lacks some serious cognitive skills...or maybe just too religiously mind screwed to accept logic.
There is actually a mathematical formula devised by a universal cosmologist in the 70's to look into the probability of life beyond ours.
It's called the 'Drake Equation". You might want to google it. It may just open your eyes. Very simple to understand.
Life beyond ours is like treasure in the sea. Just because it's out there does not mean we'll find it!...Me! | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/26/2008 10:21:27 AM |
Why do some of you think it so impossible for the universe to be teeming with life, including humans? I support the idea that life the universe over is very similar. DNA is universal not unique to Earth. Why would it be necessary for one species to "evolve" into another?
We're definitely diverging from the OP. The question is not whether there is life in the universe but did we need them to make us, well, us. And the bottom line to that is no, there is no evidence. And why would it be necessary?
The need for "aliens" to move things along stems from two flaws: 1) People don't think nature on Earth is particularly capable of making its own way without "someone else" helping things along or 2) they're comforted by the idea of someone (something) smarter keep watch over us. Both, taken to extremes, can be very paternalistic and negate our own responsibility to our planet. Hey, why should we stop polluting and going to war when our alien brothers will come down, clean our mess and teach us a better way?
In my opinion, the universe is likely teeming with life. The elements and molecules that were essential to creating DNA are out there in abundance. Just as a radio astronomer. However, the idea that a species in close proximity sharing similar morphologies down to the molecular level finding each other is so remote as to be, well, astronomical! Chances are, even if there is a species out there in the 10 to the 22nd power stars out there even capable of space travel, it is highly unlikely they are aware of us.
Someone mentioned the drake equation. Remember, several of those factors in the equation are best guests at best and speculation at least. Therefore, it can estimate anywhere from 1 technological civilization in our galaxy (us) to millions.
Also, about the skulls. Some Peruvian cultures adopted the practice of modifying their children's head shapes from birth. I'm not sure of the reason other than to suspect it was religious. It's no different, in some ways, to how certain oriental cultures bound the feet of girls, some African tribes extend their neck lengths to extreme lengths through the addition of rings, etc. or add lip plates, etc. There's plenty of examples of extreme body modification. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/27/2008 10:44:23 PM | Are Humans created by Aliens? Is it a plausible theory?
Is there anyone here on POF or any place on this earth that knows the answer?
Maybe - I have my opinion, that and a buck fity will get ya a cup a joe.
What I do know is that there are certainly POFer's here that will tell you what they "Think" they know and give you all sort of misinformation to back them up, But do they really know? --- Is one answer any better than another? - - - Absolutely Not!
I've read a couple of Zitchen's (sp) books - interesting, certainly. Plausible?-certainly as plausible as the concept of God, Alah, Budda - - - all of these are based on someone's interpretation of an ancient text. So in effect a Theory, just like the Pangea Theory or Uniformitarian Principle, Darwin's Theory or Lamarkian Theory (trolling here), Al's Theory of Relativity.
All this is somebody's best guess (Yes a best guess and give it a rest, think circular reasoning) - Bottom line, we've all got to much dern time on our hands to argue these points. Let em believe what they want to believe and let
 God figger it out. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/28/2008 9:58:53 AM | Let God figure it out ? Well what he God doesnt care to and is not even around anymore lol...he most likely was forge this place man hopeless ppl...lol...
As as it is...most likely these are all and ONLY THEORIES....none of it has any solid proof. So i guess we are stuck til something solid proves otherwise huh... | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/28/2008 5:04:36 PM | Yes, but as I pointed out already, Mankind was already well on their way to becoming an intelligent species without help from anyone- Homo erectus was the first to use and fashion tools- they were the first to live tradational hunter-gatherer societies, and the first to care for weaker or injured tribesmen.
There is no real reason we need to attribute aliens as giving humanity the evolutionary edge for human intelligence- There was already evidence they were developing it on their own, independantly.
Now, if they claimed to have 'touched' the Homininae subspecies- essientally monkeys- there would be room for argument for that- but then that completely contradicts evolution while still using evolution as a crutch for everything thats happened up to this point- not to mention fails to explain why it would take millions of years for the intelligence to appear. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/28/2008 7:53:32 PM | This theory is not plausible in the slightest. For one, we have no evidence of extraterrestial life at all, much less life that is highly intelligent, sophisticated, and close enough to the Earth to muddle with the organisms there. Second, your appeals to the "improbabilities" of language development and other things thought to be especially human are little more than arguments from ignorance that strongly resemble unnecessary creationist skepticism. Flight, too, also seems improbable on the face of it, yet you do not posit extraterrestials to explain flight. What about metabolism, the immunue system, etc.?
Second, and perhaps most devastating to the case for aliens, is the fact that the existence of aliens would also have to be explained, and we would have to reason that they evolved from simpler organisms. But if these aliens are so complex and sophisticated to be able to genetically engineer humans, then surely they couldn't have evolved (by virtue of your own argument for why humans couldn't have evolved), and hence they must have been created by even more sophisticated aliens, and they by even more sophisticated aliens, and so on and so forth until we reach an infinite regress. Obviously, the buck has to stop somewhere, and in the absence of any credible evidence for highly intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, it makes sense stop the buck right at our own origins on earth.
We evolved, plain and simple. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/29/2008 6:52:44 AM | Great posts from FrogOeyes and saintgasoline. Interesting reading everyone's POV. While I personally believe that there probably is life somewhere out there in space, I don't know if it is intelligent. I also don't know if they could ever find us if they were, due to the unimaginable vastness of space.
There is no evidence to support the idea that aliens had anything to do with the human race - in any capacity. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/29/2008 9:12:53 PM |
This seems like a desperate attempt to equate space creatures with our creation, because it admits we don't need the aliens, but demands the aliens be there just to justify Sitchins beliefs. So, what you're saying is "Aliens?? Aliens?? We don' need no steenkin' aliens!!" | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/30/2008 12:11:53 AM | Funny, how we call it aliens. Makes it sound very sci fi but yet we call mexicans illegal aliens. So wouldnt an alien who is not from here but yet is here(hypothetically speaking)would they not be called illegal aliens as well?
I mean like i said for someone to just assumes because there is no solid evidence, pretty much wraps this one up with a ....they dont exist. Its funny how we can assume this without going far beyond our own galaxy. No one seems to wanna address this. I mean you talk and talk about this and that. its like never being to China or anything yet being able to speak about it like your an expert. You never been ...never seen and dont know much about it but yet swear there is no great wall there.
Come on i have my ideas and books i have read from people who worked for NASA who made pretty much all their communication systems and what not, this man has come forward about it. I myself will wait and see. Might not even come out during my time here but one day the truth will come out one way or another. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/30/2008 6:50:41 AM |
I mean like i said for someone to just assumes because there is no solid evidence, pretty much wraps this one up with a ....they dont exist.
No, it means they *have no evidence* that aliens exist. They might or might not - but as of now, there is no proof. It works both ways . Why would anyone assume that they DO exist, when there is no proof?
Its funny how we can assume this without going far beyond our own galaxy. No one seems to wanna address this.
Going beyond our galaxy doesn't change the fact that there is no evidence, here and now, for intelligent alien life. And isn't that fact irrelevant to the topic? Aliens must have come here, correct? | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/30/2008 12:37:57 PM | >>>funny how we can assume this without going far beyond our own galaxy.
#1. Please, stop trying to derail the thread. It isn't a challenge on the existence of alien life
#2. I got news for you- the belief that there is no life out there is just as much of an assumption as there is. In fact, if we are talking evidence, there is no evidence of alien life,whereas every examination of foreign celesital bodies have revealed in pro of the no alien life belief. My belief has actual factual basis. Yours is assumed. I assume what we've learned is universal. You assume what we've found is simply faulty, or wrong, with no evidence or explaination why.
#3. You honestly believe we cannot critize the idea that there is no alien life until we are all the way outside of our own Galaxy? Going at the speed of light, it would take more years than all of recorded human history- over 10,000 years. Glad to see you don't ask for impossible circumstances to be willing to allow critisim. | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/30/2008 5:47:25 PM | i've done quit a bit of reading on this. any logical thinking person has to admit,,it makes a lot more sense then being make from a handfull of dirt.
if man was made from dirt,why is the human body 93% water..looks to me like we would be a pile of mud,,LOL | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/30/2008 6:05:36 PM | its entirely plausible if not obvious we all came from somewhere else long long long ago
even just by accident of the matter of one system being anhilated spreading through space and falling onto another area to grow again
but the question is
if we did come from afar and we came from them - where did our mothers and fathers come from then ? | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 11/30/2008 10:20:02 PM | It has been scientifically found that this earth has been made over 4 times now. We phuch it up again, then it will be a 5th.
There has been proof of things here and there, and even the typical ALien space ship designs on the walls of cavemen, in Mayan and Axtec Designs on their temples, as well as on paintings. The ones that did these paintings, did they think they had a joke going on???
I have to admit lately I have been trying to get my mind wrapped around the "string theory", or Membrane Theory, or parallel universes... Aliens??? Just another walk through a plausible explination for some of the odd balls out there, LOL | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 12/1/2008 9:02:57 AM |
No, it means they *have no evidence
Well this is what i mean. We do not have any evidence at all either way. As some might say...they have it but wont allow the average person person to see it. I dont really care either way. Once the truth does come out that is all that will matter. So all this speculation about this or that will be out the window. So who knows if it will ever happen....but all this does lead us to did aliens make us? well 1st we have to make sure they are acutally even here or been here ? as the last poster had mention cave designs. There have been some and even in a museum that was found by Zecharia Sitchin. I know i know ...but you know what ..he did not crave it....So where did it come from and what era?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/esp_sitchin_13.htm | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 12/1/2008 9:23:30 AM | Actually ... people have been hung with less evidence than we have for Aliens.
eye witness accounts are all it takes.
funny how that isn't good enough here though.
As to where those aliens are from ... well we definately don't have an answer to that.
could be the future,
could be the past.
could be another dimension
they could be a manefestation of our collective imaginations
[we see what we want to see ... even if we don't want to see it]
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 12/1/2008 10:04:56 AM | Well, the theory of that artifact being a fake is supported by the fact that it was "discovered" just a few years after "2001: A Space Odyssey" was released, and the ribbed suit and boots on a human form match very closely the depictions of fictional space suits in that movie. Cross that with a Mercury space module, move the Atlas engines up a bit, and you have your space alien.
http://www.cinemotions.net/data/films/0003/28/2/photo-2001--L-Odyssee-de-l-Espace-2001-A-Space-Odyssey-1968-4.jpg
http://www.kansastravel.org/03cosmosphere3.jpg
http://www.spaceline.org/rocketsum/images/043.jpg
Wonder why they didn't test what material comprises the carving. Plaster and marble dust is pretty easy to identify... but if Sitchin knows better than actually trained researchers in the field... Sorry, if Sitchin told me the sky was blue, I'd look up to check before agreeing. He's not exactly what you'd call a credible source.
Besides, look at pictures of REAL space suits. Not one rib on the more modern ones. The only ones that have significant ribs or ribbing are the ones from cheap comic books of the '50s and '60s. *shrug* Maybe aliens are just not as advanced as we are in materials and engineering, and they need ribbed-rubber suits to have flexibility.  | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 12/1/2008 10:29:04 AM | That is what i was wondering like is this old or what ? like why was there not testing done on it if any at all ? i know i heard of it being fake but is there any articles or anything info on this at all.
one thing thoe....about this is ....he found it in a museum which he had heard was not showing it on display but if it was fake why would they bother keeping it ? they had taken it from someone who was leaving on a flight. Why would they bother taking it or even keeping at museum ?
what is the answer to that ? | |
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| Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 12/2/2008 6:43:50 PM | I am not presenting this as truth, merely as information of interest to the topic: http://personalpages.tds.net/~theseeker/ELOHIM.HTM
Do enjoy.. I know I did :) | |
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