For whatever reason, you choose to follow me around in threads

And you've skirted the question I asked of you and a fair one it is. You are not married, so what would be your reason for leaving your relationship if she said "no" to your request fro sex?

I volunteer at a domestic violence center for women, and I see a lot of rape within marriage. Sometimes the man refuses to give the woman money to buy household food for the kids, just simply over powers her and has sex with her. Other times she is beaten, kicked, humiliated, and sometimes even tortured while she tries to get away. All of it is rape.

My undeniable "rule" for myself, is that being told "no" is a final answer. If I were told "no"...it would process as "never", and I'd exit the relationship, but I would never "rape".

I choose to not bear "responsibility" for the small minority of men,who are abusive. which gets back to the OP. Fact is, most men dont' "force sex", or rape, their wives or SOs.

One question....lets say I'm married and my wife forces me to have sex when i don't want..do i have to call that rape?( i know this sounds stupid but just for curiosity)

It's foundational to the "marriage covenant".

when one enters into marriage, both people, as part of the "covenant" surrender "self" to a greater "us", so if one, or the other, denies his/her partner, then it is a violation of the covenant.

Frankly, I can't remember ever being told "no", even in a dating relationship.

What would be the point of 'committment" in marriage, if one or the other felt that he/she was only committed to do that which he/she felt like doing, and no obligation towards his/her partner?

I also think its selfish, and a rejection of "partnership" for one to deny the other.

one has an implied obligation to "get in the mood"

if a person says "no" to his/her spouse, it is an act of infidelity, as much as if he/she were to take a lover. Scriptural references are avaialable for those for whom that would matter.

How could it not be possible? Being raped is nothing like having hot sex or even kind of annoyed but I'll go along sex, rape is being forced, often beaten and verbally as well as physically abused. Rape is crime, an act of violence against someone, it has nothing to do with being boyfriend/girlfriend, etc. A person who is capable of rape, is someone who should be locked away forever.

Although the laws against marital rape have become stricter than in years past, there are still some gaping holes in the legislation. In 33 states, for example, a husband is still exempt from prosecution for the sexual assault of his wife if she is mentally or physically impaired, unconscious, or even asleep. It is estimated that 10—14% of women are subjected to this crime every year.
Marital rape can usually be classified in one of these categories: force-only rape, battering rape, and sadistic/obsessive rape. ‘Force-only’ is when a husband uses only the amount of force necessary to coerce his wife. ‘Battering rape’ occurs as part of the pattern of abuse in a domestic violence relationship and can happen before, after, or concurrently with a physical assault. ‘Sadistic/Obsessive Rape’ occurs when a husband uses torture or perverse sexual acts or pornography against his partner’s will.
Gynecological effects of marital rape can include any number of the following: miscarriages, still births, STDs, bladder infections, and infertility. The short and long term psychological effects can be even more devastating to the victim and can include PTSD, depression, eating disorders, suicidal thoughts, intimacy issues, and negative self-image.

if a person says "no" to his/her spouse, it is an act of infidelity, as much as if he/she were to take a lover.

Again, what theology is this? Even at my hardcore Bible banging best, I never, ever, heard that a woman was required to submit to sex against her will as part of some "covenant."

Oh, I can't wait for this. Yes, please, provide us with a Scriptural reference that says that a woman isn't allowed to say no or it's considered infidelity.

Rape: The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.

Oh, I can't wait for this. Yes, please, provide us with a Scriptural reference that says that a woman isn't allowed to say no or it's considered infidelity.

MeloFelow, you are sounding creepy and heartless with your belief that if a woman says no it means never, therefore the relationship is over. I would hate for your SO ever had something horrible ever happen to her and you wanted sex and she said no