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| Homosexuality
Posted: 10/16/2009 3:41:35 AM |
She shocked me about a year ago when she came home and told me that one of her mates had finally come out and told everyone at school that he's gay. I was surprised, in my day nobody would have dared do that. I asked how the other kids reacted and she just shrugged and said "we all kinda guessed already, the girls think it's cool that he's finally come out and the boys just had a laugh with him and told him not to eye them up in the changing rooms and stuff"
I think it's cool.
When my son was 14, one of his mates, a burly 6' rugby player 'came out' and also started cross-dressing at parties they went to and stuff, He was a big lad, his dad owned a chip shop! They all just 'take it in their stride'! What we see as "difference", they see as "variation". They are used to it.
It's only a big deal to our generation, the same with other prejudices, race, nationality etc. kids are more well-balanced than we ever were at their age. IMO
I think homosexuals should be promoted, if they are good at their jobs.....
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Posted: 10/16/2009 4:12:09 AM | Gary you have been obtuse throughout this thread about the word 'normal' and though have argued point your point very well and are grammatically correct I expect that if we replaced the words normal and abnormal with common and rare throughout there wouldn't be any argument.
I would suggest, and correct me if I am wrong, that you consider homosexuality to be rare but also unnatural and that someone who was homosexual was abnormal compared to you?
Personally I see no need to promote homosexuality as it is already in the media, on tv and is accepted by the majority and would be done to be make a statement. Sexuality shouldn't be used to shock or create a media frenzy and acceptance only comes when it isn't noticed or spoken about. Where I work they have conversations about who is Gay, they aren't nasty or derogatory but why the need to have the conversation in the first place? I think generally we are tolerant of homosexuality but it still makes us feel a little uncomfortable if we are honest with ourselves and others imo. | |
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Posted: 10/16/2009 8:01:06 AM | As others have already pointed out Homosexuality is a given state, not an acquired one and
although I'm a raging heterosexual I have no problem with it, nor do I feel uncomfortable with them.
However I don't like people flaunting sex in public places regardless of their sexual leaning | |
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| Homosexuality
Posted: 10/16/2009 2:28:55 PM |
I would suggest, and correct me if I am wrong, that you consider homosexuality to be rare but also unnatural and that someone who was homosexual was abnormal compared to you?
Bloody good points, Pud, and a question which isn't laden with anger towards me.
OK, here's my answer....
Yes, I do consider homosexuality to be rare. It is not common, and I don't encounter that many homosexuals to my knowledge. I expect every bloke I meet to be straight, and that is why I use the term 'normal' to describe heteros.
Contrary to what some might think, I don't think that any of the sexual acts committed by homosexuals are 'abnormal', therefore I do not consider those acts to be 'unnatural'. No, my problem with homosexuality amongst males is that I think it IS unnatural for a man to be sexually aroused towards/by another man. Our bodies are designed to create other humans, and the sexual act is how we do that. Therefore, sexual arousal is designed to take place between the genders, not within them. | |
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| Homosexuality
Posted: 10/16/2009 2:46:55 PM | Contrary to what some might think, I don't think that any of the sexual acts committed by homosexuals are 'abnormal', therefore I do not consider those acts to be 'unnatural'. No, my problem with homosexuality amongst males is that I think it IS unnatural for a man to be sexually aroused towards/by another man. Our bodies are designed to create other humans, and the sexual act is how we do that. Therefore, sexual arousal is designed to take place between the genders, not within them.
See I agree with this, I do not understand homosexuality in the same way I don't understand peadophilia as I am not programmed that way and both to me seem to be unnatural and the thought of both acts repulses me. Homosexuals though are consenting adults and normal decent people in the main the same as heterosexuals and I accept that what their sexual preference is their choice and have no malice towards them and actually have gay friends.
I think we are tolerant of homosexuality in the main as it doesn't hurt anybody and what people choice to do in their bedrooms is their choice, I don't understand bondage or swinging particularly either but understand that there is more to a person than their sexual desires and practices. We are not becoming more liberal through enlightenment and a better understanding of differences but just more accepting that the world is changing and there is anything we can do to stop it and hate is a wasted emotion. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2009 12:49:53 AM |
It is normal, typical or expected that in a population of 100 rams, 8 of them will be homosexual. This is the standard result that would usually be found. It is the norm that 8% of rams are gay.
I agree 100% with that statement. I would also say that it is also the 'norm' to find a high percentage of gays in gay bars. I would say that most members of the ICF follow West Ham United.
However, it does not mean that when one encounters a person at random, they are going to be gay or WHU fans. In fact, given the relatively small percentage of the population that each of the three types form, I would not expect any of them in that random meeting.
www.telegraph.co.uk/.../Six-per-cent-of-population-are-gay-or-lesbian-according-to-Whitehall-figures.html
The DTI stated:
""It is based on a number of studies by different interest groups, but fundamentally there is very little reliable information about the size of the lesbian, gay and bisexual group."
The DTI was merely trying to assess the impact on the Treasury with regard to civil partnerships. Don't forget, civil partnerships are open to straight people!
http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/a/population.htm
"The number of LGB persons in the U.S. is subjective. Studies pointing to the statistics are estimates at best. The most widely accepted statistic is that 1 in ever 10 individuals is LGB; however research shows that the number may be more like 1 in 20."
So, it looks like the DTI 'settled' for a figure in-between just to give the Treasury something to work on.
"When asked about GLB population statistics, Gary J. Gates, a Senior Research Fellow at The Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy, says:
"That's the single question that I'm asked the most. The answer is unfortunately not simple. I'll respond with a question. What do you mean when you use the word 'gay'? If you mean people who identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual in a survey, then the answer is that it's likely not one in ten, but closer to one in twenty. A recent government survey found that 4 percent of adults aged 18-45 identified as 'homosexual' or 'bisexual.' A similar proportion of voters identify as GLB. If you define gay as having same-sex attractions or behaviors, you do get higher proportions that are a bit closer to the one in ten figure." "
<div class="quote">So if being gay is not 'normal', it must be an extremely queer thing to belong to the Conservative Party, UKIP, Nick Griffin's party etc.
Only if one doesn't understand English properly. Sadly, I see far too many examples of a lack of comprehension about our language.
OED Queer: strange, odd.
There is nothing strange or odd about joining a political party.
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