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 GreenTeaGuy

Joined: 12/18/2008
Msg: 26
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Posted: 12/24/2008 2:52:03 PM
I'm not so sure that study was done correctly. It didn't take into consideration that the type people who watch romantic comedies ALREADY have unrealistic expectations of love and relationships.
Is it the movie that causes the unrealistic expectations or are those with unrealistic expectations the type of people who make those movies popular?

The one statistical sample they performed in the study was too small to be conclusive. Two groups of 100 people watching ONE movie each is a poor study. Basing anything on a sample that small is ridicules.
 Capitano_Blaugh

Joined: 3/18/2008
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Posted: 12/24/2008 2:57:37 PM
^^^ I agree, though I find it interesting that many have pointed out the flaws of the study, yet many people, here and IRL, point out the influence of the media on other negative behaviour.....

... I started this thread as a tongue-in-cheek bit of fun.... let's not get too serious...

 Pair O Docs

Joined: 10/20/2008
Msg: 28
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Posted: 12/24/2008 3:01:08 PM
WHAT???!!!!

You mean some beautiful blonde ISN'T going to be waiting for me atop the Empire State Building the next time I go to New York City?? WHAAAAAAAAATTTT???

You mean Jane Seymour isn't going to say "Is It You?" after I've hypnotized myself to go back to 1912 while laying in my bed this summer at the Grand Hotel on Mackinac Island??? Why the hell did I book the damn trip??? And what the hell am I going to do with this suit I just bought at the antique fair NOW??? huh???

You mean some cowboy named Bruce isn't going to admit to me that he's gay, and tell me he thinks he's falling in love with me when I go for my trip to Brokeback Mountain??

whew.........there IS a god........
 Capitano_Blaugh

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Posted: 12/24/2008 3:04:39 PM

You mean some cowboy named Bruce isn't going to admit to me that he's gay, and tell me he thinks he's falling in love with me when I go for my trip to Brokeback Mountain??





Brucey may not hit on ya, but if you wear those sexy leather chaps with your ass cheeks hangin out, you're bound to attract some attention from SOME guy...



 webweebil

Joined: 9/4/2008
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Posted: 12/24/2008 3:10:04 PM
I've had a few romances that came close.
 scorpiomover

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Posted: 12/24/2008 3:12:05 PM

They found fans of films such as Runaway Bride and Notting Hill often fail to communicate with their partner.
Duh! Non-fans of such films, like people who only like action films, often fail to communicate with their partner.

Many held the view if someone is meant to be with you, then they should know what you want without you telling them.
Duh! Try watching anything from the 80s, and the 70s, and it's practically a given that women think that way. What is more, you can find that attitude in lots of older women, who were already married by the time these films came around.

The university's Dr Bjarne Holmes said: "Marriage counsellors often see couples who believe that sex should always be perfect, and if someone is meant to be with you then they will know what you want without you needing to communicate it.
They are NOT complaining about the relationship. They are complaining about SEX, and about COMMUNICATION.

What you DO find, is that it is very consistent to find that most people believe they are good communicators, when by the standards set down in books from the late 70s and before, 99% of us are appalling communicators.

What is more, most people seem to expect good sex, as if you can guarantee that 99% of the world will be good at sex, just because you want them to.

THAT'S UNREALISTIC.

You CAN see that from most modern films, because in most modern films, everyone says exactly what you want to hear, and the sex is always perfect.

No-one on TV or in films EVER says the sex was rubbish, unless it was with a perfect stranger, and a teen's first time on TV is ALWAYS great. Nothing like real life.

What is more, all the kids and the teenagers talk like they are in their mid-20s, and their parents always seem to pay attention to EVERYTHING they say. Nothing AT ALL like real life.

Sure, I'll agree that much of TV is unrealistic, like how you can shoot tons of bullets at the hero in an action movie, and he never gets shot once, or even gets seriously wounded by shrapnel, and how he always can improvise comic one-liners that would take a professional comedian weeks to come up with. Then he ALWAYS gets the girl. Come on, how many soldiers who fought in Iraq, and killed loads of terrorists, "got the girl"?

But the unrealistic expectations in ALL programmes on TV and films, are the ones that affect people the most to believe in unrealistic expectations in life.

Just look at the sitcoms. King of Queens: How many guys do you know, who are as obese as the guy, who are a delivery guy, and who have the same lack of confidence, marry a cute girl. How comes in the Simpsons, Homer is a fat blob, with NO luck with the women, and he scores a smart thin woman like Marge?

At least in Romantic Comedies, the people are roughly the same level of attractiveness, roughly the same age, roughly similar interests and views, and find it very, very hard to connect, usually dating all sorts of people they are unsuited to, but think they are suited to, along the way.

TV might ruin your life. But it's not Rom-Coms, or not Rom-Coms alone. It's action films, it's sitcoms, it's teen dramas, it's probably 90% of TV. But you cannot pin it on "chick flicks".

I remember in that movie love actualy there was that writer and the women who came and cleaned up at his house in a different country. She didn't speak any english and he didn't speak what ever she spoke but they got married in the movie.
Bizarrely enough, back in 1992, I KNEW someone who got married to someone who only spoke Hebrew, and he only spoke English. I asked him how it was possible. He just shrugged his shoulders and said "we communicate". That was about 9 years BEFORE that film came out.
 GreenTeaGuy

Joined: 12/18/2008
Msg: 32
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Posted: 12/24/2008 3:19:42 PM
capitano blaugh:

^^^ I agree, though I find it interesting that many have pointed out the flaws of the study, yet many people, here and IRL, point out the influence of the media on other negative behaviour.....
... I started this thread as a tongue-in-cheek bit of fun.... let's not get too serious...

Ok, no more seriousness.

I like the romantic comedies. The movie "Love Actually" is one of my favorite movies. I don't get unrealistic expectations from these movies and I've not met any woman who has but I don't deny they exist.
Hollywood sells dreams and some want those dreams to become reality.

The study talked about how people who watched those movies believed unrealistically that their partners should know what they are thinking. Well, in some of the relationships I have had the woman and I HAVE known what the other was thinking. In some we didn't have a clue.
I think people in close relationships do get to know what their partner is feeling and thinking, if they are paying attention.

I guess I'm one of those foolish people the study talks about.
 Capitano_Blaugh

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Posted: 12/24/2008 3:32:14 PM

I guess I'm one of those foolish people the study talks about.


Yeah, I USED to be like that. Now, I don't even believe 'love' between women and men exists. It's all too relative and capricious for me.

Happily ever after?

I would love to see Prince Charming and Cindarella 15 years later....

... he's lugging a great big beer belly, with a red, bulbous nose from drinking too much, rippin' the couch apart lookin' for the remote while she's wobbling around scratchin' her ass that's now a couple of ax handles wide, screeching at the Prince to go fix the fvcking shitter.....

 monalee1

Joined: 10/22/2007
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Posted: 12/24/2008 3:59:02 PM
hi... perhaps these romantic comedies are created in the minds of... romantic men and women, maybe not..... warmly Mona
 GreenTeaGuy

Joined: 12/18/2008
Msg: 35
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Posted: 12/24/2008 4:36:05 PM

capitano blaugh: .....I would love to see Prince Charming and Cindarella 15 years later....
.. he's lugging a great big beer belly, with a red, bulbous nose from drinking too much, rippin' the couch apart lookin' for the remote while she's wobbling around scratchin' her ass that's now a couple of ax handles wide, screeching at the Prince to go fix the fvcking shitter.

They made a movie about that.....it's called Shrek.
 KernerDisciple

Joined: 10/27/2008
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Posted: 12/24/2008 4:45:02 PM
Cut and paste is research?
Disclaimer; If you suffer from, or are subject to any illness or disability that prevents you from using a computer, reading, or comprehending the written word I apologize for this post.
 torquoise pixie

Joined: 11/20/2008
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Posted: 12/24/2008 4:52:16 PM
OK, I checked it out. I agree that rom-coms portray unrealistic ideas. But they are not the only source of where we get stupid ideas about love from. Barbara DeAngelis calls them Love Myths (these ideas i mean), in her book Are You The One For Me?
Have a look at that book if you are interested in this topic, it's highly readable and helpful. If you are aware of these things, then you should be able to enjoy rom-coms without them lowering you "love IQ".
 johnlondonsingle

Joined: 11/21/2007
Msg: 38
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Posted: 12/24/2008 5:29:16 PM
this is a bit of a paradox.on the one hand we all want to be happy,but on the other hand shakespeare is also great.personally i think a mix is better
 Smart Lass

Joined: 6/9/2008
Msg: 39
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Posted: 12/28/2008 8:48:23 AM
You know, I have to disagree with this. Bo and I were watching "Something's Got To Give" the other night and we just kept looking at each other marveling at the similiarities between this romantic comedy and real life.

For all you folks that don't believe that real life can mirror a romantic comedy, perhaps ya'll should come join Bo and I for a cup of coffee and a glass of wine and we'll just sit spell and chat a while.

We're just saying.
 ndulj

Joined: 5/27/2007
Msg: 40
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Posted: 12/28/2008 9:52:05 AM
CB I'm gonna take it a step further and attack sappy love songs.

You have these women sitting in offices all day with those stupid easy listening love songs playing in the background on a constant loop. I have thought for a long time that it just warps their minds.
 natedredd08

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Posted: 12/28/2008 10:06:10 AM
"But the unrealistic expectations in ALL programmes on TV and films, are the ones that affect people the most to believe in unrealistic expectations in life."

I don't see how anyone can believe that relationships on TV and film do not influence people at the mean. Its a feedback loop of media both reflecting current trends while at the same time shaping trends to a degree.
Before mass media your exposure to relationship models was in the people around you in real life. Now pretty much everyone alive today has more hours of exposure to relationship problems in a fake relationships on tv than to the people around them.
Nothing really wrong with that, true "reality television" would be painfully boring. To believe that thousands and thousands of hours of media consumption has no effect on behaviour though is delusional. Companies don't spend billions on advertisements because of the effect it does not have.
 Randominternetguy

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Posted: 5/2/2009 2:21:20 AM
One thing I find left OUT of the in articles about this study (such as in Post 1) is the effects on adolescents, since it has been demonstrated that older viewers are more aware of the exaggerations in these movies. But other research shows adolescents are very likely to see movies as an example of how relationships "should" be, since they typically have little life experience to tell them otherwise. This study was an initial study to first just determine what content is in movies as part of a larger project to understand the effects on adolescents.

If you want to read a draft of the actual study, instead of the spin various media outlets are giving it, go to

http://www.attachmentresearch.org./publications2.html

and click on the link by the discription "Contradictory messages: A content analysis of Hollywood-produced romantic comedy feature films. Communication Quarterly."

From Page 1 of that report


With the media such a prominent part of today’s society it is little wonder that it has become a resource on how the world works. Adolescents, particularly impressionable as they attempt to make sense of themselves and others around them, often look to the media (e.g. Bachen & Illouz, 1996; Brown, 2002; Signorielli, 1997) for issues increasing in importance such as those of romantic and sexual relationships (e.g. Arnett, 2000; Furnham & Simon, 1999). However, interpreting media representations of these issues as being an accurate reflection of reality may have serious implications for adolescents’ perceptions of the world. Films and television programmes typically rely on exaggerated and unrealistic portrayals of romantic and sexual relationships to appeal to their audiences (e.g. Committee on Public Health, 2001; Jowett & Linton, 1980; Ward & Rivadeneyra, 1999) and whilst older and more experienced viewers can generally recognise this (Illouz, 1998), younger viewers with few of their own experiences to compare against may come to view these representations as cultural norms and form unrealistic relationship beliefs and expectations accordingly. If adolescents are indeed looking to the media’s exaggerated and unrealistic portrayals to gain insight into what to expect in their own relationships, research must determine what specifically they are being exposed to. Research on romance media content thus far, however, is severely lacking. The present study therefore sought to address this gap by analysing the romantic content of a sample of romantic comedy feature films. Furthermore, a coding system of the romantic themes identified during analysis was created and interrater reliability established.
 torquoise pixie

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Posted: 5/2/2009 4:16:50 AM

You have these women sitting in offices all day with those stupid easy listening love songs playing in the background on a constant loop. I have thought for a long time that it just warps their minds.

I don't know which offices you hang out in. And if you are there, exposed to these dangerous love songs (how else would you know they are playing), aren't you afraid it will warp your mind? Or is this only a threat to a woman's mind?
 MikeTheScribe

Joined: 2/16/2009
Msg: 44
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Posted: 5/2/2009 7:16:50 AM
Very interesting topic. I write romantic comedies (perhaps my least favorite genre because they are formulaic) and when I sit down to write one there are 2 things I begin with: 1) I'm writing pure fantasy 2) The ending has to be happy. Remember, since the dawn of movies people use them to escape. Are they realistic? Rarely. I have often wondered if people enter into relationships with the knowledge that if they get X time they are ahead of the curve. Cynical, yes, but also realistic. Romantic comedies don't show what happens after the cameras are turned off after the man and woman walk happily into the sunset.

The question here is which came our inherent desire to walk off into the sunset with visions of holding hands with a partner for 50 years or the evolution of ideas which perpetuate what appears to be a myth to most people who have had painful breakups?

As a writer of this type of film it is my job to stretch the emotions of the audience by creating conflicts which make you think the couple has no chance. Then when they get together at the end of it everyone leaves the theater feeling good. For those 2 hours people can get caught up in the lives of my characters and, perhaps, forget their own relationship woes. However, after the movie they still have to go home and face all of the challenges that relationships provide.
 Randominternetguy

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Posted: 5/2/2009 8:42:25 AM
My view is the purpose of movies is to make money, not be accurate. To be entertaining, not be a model of life. Any relation to reality is purely incidental, and will be the first thing to go in favor of better storytelling.

On a less technical note, I've felt if you want a relationship like you see in the movies, then make sure your partner has the latest copy of the script and has agreed to follow it. And anything that happens off camera doesn't count. :D

Bob
 luv_n_theory

Joined: 4/15/2009
Msg: 46
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Posted: 5/2/2009 10:08:59 AM
I love romantic comedies. "Pretty Woman" is one of my favorites and it always will be. "Everafter" "Pride and Prejudice" and many more like them. They make me laugh, feel sad and well, just feel good; can't wait for the next one to come out.

So, I get a chance to spend an hour or so watching something that gives me heart a jolt. So what if it is a Hollywood ending and he or she gets the one that was sought after.

All these stories are based on how they met. Not how they lived their lives. I don't want to know that Richard Geer probably beat the crap out of Julia Roberts after a few years of marriage because he ultimately blamed her for the loss everything due to the fact that the world at large lost respect for him after marrying a hooker...cuz ya know his lawyer ex-friend went and told everybody.

I like the fact that Sandra Bullock hooked up with the rich and gorgeous Hugh grant in two weeks notice. The last thing I want to watch is a few years later when she catches him banging his new MALE secretary. That just wouldn't interest me at all.

It has never been about the middle or the end (except for the notebook, a real tear jerker) it is always about how their love began.

But if you think that romantic comedies cannot lend credence to anything in real life then I suppose what Michael Douglas said last night in "Ghost of girlfriends past" that, when in a relationship "it is the one who loves the least that holds the power"....is not a true statement right?...Funny, I thought he was right on target....sounds like real life to me!

So, you guys take your blood and guts spilling everywhere movies and pretend for a moment that...that is not real life...yea right!...great fantasies you are having.
 ColonelIngus

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Posted: 5/2/2009 10:35:21 AM
when in a relationship "it is the one who loves the least that holds the power"....is not a true statement right?...

It's not exactly a new idea, though the way I heard it way back when was this:
The person who gives the least controls the relationship.

It's only a model of reality, and a questionable one at that, not necessarily The Truth.
In a worst case scenario, both people give less and less trying to get more and more control, until you reach a point where there's no relationship going on at all. Game Theory abounds in such examples.

VVVVVV - "Pretty Woman"... Who knew it was so much fun and so glamorous being a hooker, all while making about a million a year (roughly her 24 hr rate times 365) and getting to bang Richard Gere?
 parklabrea

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Posted: 5/2/2009 10:35:37 AM
At one time we sat around a fire and listened to stories that reflected our tribal mythology. They both guided behavior as well as reflected it. Mainly they did the former. Films, books, T.V. and games both reflect and create today's fantasies. It is nigh on impossible to know which came first, but you can bet the entertainment industry churns out whatever pays. Did our love affair with guns and fast cars create the need for entertainment that involved these elements?

Love is in short supply these days, in a large part to the constant sorting out of man and woman's roles in a fast-changing society. The men seek a heroic, black&white solution to the complexities of the world and to,
"win," women. Women love to see the hurdles to a relationship overcome and true love to triumph. Or so the observer concludes.

As long as we know where entertainment ends and reality begins we won't try to bend the world to suit our fantasies. Tom Cruise isn't bullet-proof, Pretty Woman is about the saddest, least romantic of professions, prostitution. They're all children's stories for adults.
 beershark

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Posted: 5/2/2009 2:15:55 PM
I adore studies like this.

These are the same type of idiots that want us to believe that country music causes alcoholism, Heavy Metal will make you homocidal/suicidal, Harry Potter promotes satanism, and the Teletubbies will turn your children gay!

These losers already have unrealsitic expectations, that's why they are fans of these movies. It's not the movies creating the situation. Their merely commenting on it, for profit.

It's called ENTERTAINMENT people!
 daisypetals01

Joined: 3/10/2008
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Posted: 5/2/2009 3:28:20 PM
There is alot of money being made with chick flicks....women still go to them in droves....so there must be something there, eh?
Now...I remember that Sharon Stone movies years ago that EVERY man had to go and see...even TWICE!
So....there must be something there, eh?

What!!!!!! We are NOT EQUAL?????
When did that happen?
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