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 Huntington24

Joined: 1/17/2008
Msg: 76
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Posted: 1/5/2009 1:39:29 AM
Yeah thats pretty shitty, especially from such a well spoken gentleman like yourself.
 *motown*cowgirl*

Joined: 7/17/2008
Msg: 77
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Posted: 1/5/2009 4:09:15 AM
If you arent interested in someone, why not just say that politely and move on. However to get "go back to africa", "find a date at the gorilla cages at the zoo", and "what self respecting woman would date a N@#$#@", are uncalled for.

omg people actually typed that at you?? i laughed out loud.... not that you were so directly and personally insulted for no good reason, but that there are really people out there (several, apparently!) who actually have BOTH the unfathomable idiocy and unmitigated gall to say such things to anybody. omg. it's one thing to be able to sincerely form such thoughts in one's brain (dumb enough), but to actually have them come out of your mouth at someone? unfukinbelievable.

it just goes to show ya, op. never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.
 yolo08

Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 78
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Posted: 1/22/2009 7:09:06 AM
Hey i know im replying to this post kinda late but if the OP sees this response I have a suggestion to the ignorant beeotches who emailed their repsonses to you.
Cant u notify POF and send them the emails you received and have them kicked off the site?? I'm sure that behavior like that shouldnt be tolerated and it should be enough to have their racist asses kicked off this site forever.
I also think that you should be free to email whoever u want regardless of whether she is white,black,red,brown, green or blue. I also date interracially and dont give a rats ass who doesnt like it. If i ever got any emails like you got, I would have POF kick them off so fast. Nobody deserves to be treated like that. If you would have responded just as ignorantly to them i guarantee u they would try to sue.
Stay strong and dont let anybody get u down.
 good guy75

Joined: 3/25/2008
Msg: 79
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Posted: 1/22/2009 7:40:05 AM
hey i here you .i had this women call me blacky and i am most likely lighter than her and i am black.just because we have a black president means nothing in some peoples eyes.its history can not be destroyed.john adams said slavery will be the undoing of americas history there is a thought.
 good guy75

Joined: 3/25/2008
Msg: 80
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Posted: 1/22/2009 7:42:42 AM
well spoken thats a racist thing to say.white people are not the only people who are smart and can speak well.come on man may be you did not mean that but it offends most black men.like some people say obama speaks well.i never here any body say hey look at tim russert he speaks well and he is not the commander in chief.
 Julialove83

Joined: 5/31/2007
Msg: 81
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Posted: 1/26/2009 7:55:28 AM
I am sorry about your experiences within this site. I can't say that I have gotten the same messages as you within POF, but even within our own black society, there is racim as I have learned within this website. What I am able to say is that these people are not worth your energy. Yes, people do say things that often hurt us. But, we have the power to accept whether or not we let what they say to hurt us. I called these people simple-minded and move on; for I know, that there are other great people out there who are not the same as them. Remain true to who you are, don't waste your time and energy worrying about people who are simple-minded, and ignorant....
 DJ_Jazzy_B

Joined: 9/19/2008
Msg: 82
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Posted: 1/29/2009 8:05:16 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT:

Laundry is the only thing that should be separated by color. ~Author Unknown

I have no color prejudices nor caste prejudices nor creed prejudices. All I care to know is that a man is a human being, and that is enough for me; he can't be any worse. ~Mark Twain

We didnt come over on the same ship but we are all in the same boat-Author Unknown
 cfb62

Joined: 9/17/2007
Msg: 83
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Posted: 1/29/2009 9:27:07 AM
I agree with your take on how rude the world's become, and I'm really sorry you've had to deal with it. Like you said, there is no reason that someone cannot politely convey that they're not interested.
It's completely insane how rude and thoughtless people have become.
Things like just holding a door open for a stranger have become so rare.
I've come to the conclusion that I feel sorry for the really rude people.
They're clearly extremely unhappy.
 hudson hutch

Joined: 5/27/2008
Msg: 84
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Posted: 1/29/2009 9:59:13 AM
KG124 dude.. its not just racism..
its like saying i'm a racist just because i have never dated a black girl.. but no.. im not.

it has to do with how you feel inside..
its a personal preference...

that's all...


dont take to heart.

the right one will come along.
 kg124

Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 85
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Posted: 2/9/2009 6:46:10 PM

kg,

The type of responses you received indicate the ignorance of some people. I have many friends/associates who are black and I've asked them their opinion on inter-racial dating and if they have a preference for who their kids date. A little background....my daughter had a crush on a young black kid and she told me about it. Personally, I'm okay with that and she invited him over to spend an afternoon, which he did and was very polite and respectful. Things didn't work out for whatever reason and my daughter doesn't want to talk about it. But this was what prompted me to ask my friends their opinions. By the way, their preference was that their children dated other black children, but again, like me, they were open to the idea. All I care about is that when the time is right, my daughter meets someone that will be good to her and make her happy, regardless of color.

Of course, our conversation opened up all kinds of other issues. Like children of inter-racial relationships and such. All of us agreed that those children seem to have a harder time knowing where they fit in. What is your feeling on that? Again, keep in mind the friends I was speaking with this about were black and we are all mothers too.


Teresa,
Thank you for your post here. I have 2 children, a son and daughter, both mixed. I know when my son was younger, he felt out of place in schools. Not knowing exactly where he "belonged". I can say my proudest moment was him realizing that he didnt need to fall into a category, but could be himself. He is now a freshman in college and is on his way to being a good man from that good boy he once was. My daughter, I dont think has ever had an issue with her mixed heritage.
Again I want to thank you all for the kind words, advice and comments about this very volatile, controversial, topic.
 supernik

Joined: 8/30/2008
Msg: 86
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Posted: 2/9/2009 7:02:00 PM
you know its funny - i actually get offended when i get messages saying "do you date black men?" it makes me look at my profile everytime to see if i said anything that would lead to that conclusion - i have asked why they send the intro message of that and the response tends to be that some dont date outside their race - i personally have issues with lots of things - race, however, surprisingly, isnt one of them, i feel bad for those that do because that is like not wanting to talk to someone because their hair is the wrong color or their eyes arent the right color - just sad.

i work hard at teaching my children that people arent colors, sadly they are now entering the public school system with children who are taught that there is color and that it matters - i hope what i teach them sticks better than their peers - i'm thinking it does but who knows.!!!
 JustNotThatIntoYou

Joined: 1/20/2009
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Posted: 2/9/2009 7:13:43 PM
If you're female and drive a race car.........I might date you. Depends on the color of the car though.

I definitely won't date a rainbow-colored race car!
 MissEmpress

Joined: 6/26/2008
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Posted: 2/9/2009 7:28:27 PM

I just would think after the American people made such a huge statement in the elections, attitudes would have been a tad bit more receptive. Yes we have come a long way, but after whats happened here and on a few other sites to me in the last week or so, I see we as a country, still have a long way to go.


There are always ignorant people...always...blatantly racist and rude people are not the majority though and I don't think you should give them the time of day to feel like they are important.
 serenityCW

Joined: 1/21/2006
Msg: 89
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Posted: 2/9/2009 7:51:42 PM
i'm more concerned about "insitutionalized" racism and it's subleties within a white society, than i am about a bunch of ignorant people who can be blocked or reported to admin. if done, their profiles will be "dead meat". choices are one thing, outright KKK comments are another.

my children are "of color", including two beautiful young women. on another site, you get to list both your race and your dating preference with respect to race. i have noticed that a majority of both white males AND males of color, will list okay to "white" and mixed racial daters, but many "white" men will vote nay to african american women who do not report a "mix". my response is to not date them either or to seriously challenge their choices if at least they will date mixed racial people. if they say "only" white, i just move on along. not for me OR my family! to each, his/her own. but, i don't have to buy into it! i might add that some have said, it's not the color but the culture. in their limited experience, they assume african american women are all ghetto! geeze, michelle obama has her role model work cut out for her.

it takes time OP. i've seen it with my own religion and "marrying out" as explained by others above. i was not raised like that, but many of my friends were not "allowed" to date non jewish individuals. the fear was that the jews were and are being killed off. to be fair, i've heard that amongst traditonal african americans as well.

one of my friends from the south was instructed by his parents to marry darker than his own skin. they feared the race would be eliminated, in the same way others fear for the religion. truth be told, we are all going brown and religions are slowly merging and competing for the younger crowd. we just have to understand the concerns of the elders and prove them wrong in terms of leaving them out. usually the grandchildren get them to change their minds a bit!

as to the bigots and kkk types, they are slowly dying out in terms of exposure and ignorance, but bet your bippie (hmm, what "is" a bippie?) that they are in major corporations and i'm told one of the chief KKK leaders has a harvard degree. sorry, i tend not to follow them in great detail. however, this is the fear: the creeping into the mainstream of society w/o any knowledge to the general populace.

so, at least, you do know what you're are getting, with these idiot responses.
 mynameisSarah

Joined: 12/31/2008
Msg: 90
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Posted: 2/9/2009 7:57:10 PM
You are talking to the wrong kind of women. A simple " I don't date outside of my race" works just fine. I do not use words like that to describe people. As far as it pertaining to "how far we have come?" I know I would never raise my child to hate someone because of their race. I guess a lot of black people have had terrible experiences with "white trash", lol. We are not all like that. We've all got the same problems, now if we could just figure out how to solve them, lol.

I wouldn't even respond to those people...
 PirateJohn09

Joined: 1/7/2009
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Posted: 2/9/2009 8:05:24 PM

If you arent interested in someone, why not just say that politely and move on. However to get "go back to africa", "find a date at the gorilla cages at the zoo", and "what self respecting woman would date a N@#$#@", are uncalled for.

Just be secure in the knowledge that you're a far better person than any of those losers have any prayer of being.
 RoadTrip3500

Joined: 10/28/2006
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Posted: 2/9/2009 8:50:01 PM
I was lucky enough to grow up in a thoroughly integrated town. We kids didn't care what color/race/nationality/religion/gender you were... and our high school reunions have reflected that attitude decades later - we're all genuinely happy to see our old friends again.

The most important lesson I learned about racism came in college. After my freshman year, I had a small apartment and walked to the campus every day. On my way, I passed an all-girls academy, grades K-8. One morning, I was walking to the college campus, and had just passed the academy. An adorable little girl (white), couldn't have been more than 6 years old, was walking towards me on the sidewalk in her school uniform with her book bag. As she approached me, she flashed a huge smile, said a bright bubbly "Hi!", and kept walking. I was so surprised, all I could think to do was smile and wave. On that very same block not that much later, I watched in dismay as an elderly white woman chose to cross the street, walk one block on the opposite side of the street, then crossed back so she wouldn't have to walk past me on the same sidewalk. Taught me all I needed to know.

My 4 godchildren are white (three brothers and a sister). When he was about 7, the second oldest had a school assignment to draw someone he admired. The teacher noted he drew a man with a lot of brown crayon. Inquiring who the person was, he promptly replied "My uncle!" (This is how the children were introduced to me.) The teacher actually called their mother after school, concerned over this situation and wondering how a white boy could think he had a black uncle. Their mother promptly began laughing, but explained who I was in relation to the children.

While I have not been turned down in the manner the OP was, I have certainly had my share of "I don't date your type" replies in other settings... one of which was when I was simply talking with a woman in a chat room - said nothing about ever meeting, let alone dating - but apparently upon seeing my profile picture, she felt the need to send an email noting I was not her type. (Ooooookay...) At my previous job, one client who had only dealt with me over the phone, took a liking to me so much that she said she was considering introducing me to her daughter because I seemed like such a great guy. Our companies then had an in-person conference, and upon seeing I had a "year-round tan", never mentioned her daughter again.

Personally, I wouldn't be here without interracial relationships (we have traced the Native American and Dutch lines in our family back to the mid 1800s) or teen pregnancies (my paternal grandmother conceived all her children before she was 20). So I have never had an issue with either. Race has never been a concern of mine - I have been attracted to women of all ethnicities, just as I have been unattracted to women of all ethnicities. It's the individual that matters, not their categorization.
 photoman245

Joined: 10/20/2007
Msg: 93
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Posted: 2/9/2009 9:08:27 PM
I don't have a prolem with corresponding with different races on these so called dating sites.
But I don't think I would go as far as actually dating a black woman. Yes I have had several emails from different black women in the past, but I read there emails and looked at there profiles and decided to politely to bow out of the correspondance.
It will not work for me.
I have had mainly black women from Africa writing to me very romanticly and sometimes passionate then they hit you with Money' yes they ask for money to help them out as they can't get there funds together to make a trip to visit you.
I have reported them to several different dating sites and for them to be Blocked.
The dating sites did listened to me and Blocked them.
I am very suspicious when I get an email from a woman from Ghana or anywhere in Africa.
So I write to them to say I am Not going to persue them anymore. I am Not Interested.
I do prefer to write or date caucasion women whether they be oriental or European, NorthAmerican White. I am not against other races but I feel it is better for me to try to stick to my own race. Hard as it may sound I feel it is the best in these so called troubled times.
I was raised in the 50's and lived through the 60's right up till the present and I won't change now. Anyways I am not attracted to Black or Philipino women, it just wouldn't work for me.
I am sure there are many men out there who feel the same way as I do.
To end this I am not that desperate of a man looking fpr a woman for his needs.
I can do with out............................ :
 moonbeamlover

Joined: 12/16/2008
Msg: 94
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Posted: 2/9/2009 9:19:05 PM
In my lifetime I think I have dated from every single ethnic group as well as having myriad friends from them. I didn't date them because of or in spite of them being multicultural. I went out with them because they were interesting and fun. And I enjoyed myself quite a lot.

I could care less what color a person's skin is or whether they were born in this country or not). Who they are, how they are, is what will dictate whether i'm interested in spending time with someone or not; I have yet to be disappointed in any time spent getting to know anyone out of my "ethnic group", whatever the heck that is.

No one has any right whatsoever to put down anyone or say hateful words based on ignorant, hateful prejudice. That's just not right.
 Wiyan

Joined: 12/8/2008
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Posted: 2/9/2009 9:26:54 PM
thank you for posting this! You speak for many more than just yourself and your own experience. The single most discouraging aspect of racist attitudes to me is how blind they are. The people who have them see themselves as better than 'those' others who they think should just assimilate, integrate, let bygones be bygones etc. Members of a privileged group cannot understand what it feels like to be in 'the minority' and having all of the apologists from that group practically trying to 'sell' them their rewritten version of reality+ history, all the while expecting manufactured consent for their skewed viewpoints. It is insane that anyone on here would say anything critical of someone bc of their race or judge someone of the opposite sex just for being a M or F, though there's plenty of that stereotyping going on in the forums as well. I hope for speaking out you net yourself some better humans to meet
 FineLikeWine09

Joined: 1/10/2009
Msg: 96
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Posted: 2/9/2009 11:11:12 PM
BEWARE: Unfortunately, there are way more lilliputian-myopic-minded people on this site than cultured, intellectual ones. Unlike them, I generally, try to give relevant feedback to a post or profile. Otherwise, after I read one, I simply move on to the next. At time I've read profiles where a woman states, "seeking Caucasian men only" and I can respect that. Although I don't mind dating any race, to each his own. We all have our standards. But what's the point in irrelevantly feeding them down someone's throat? That's beyond racist...I call it "ig-nant", "pre-tarded" prehistoric behavior! BTW, everything you stated was well-said, relevant, and non-offensive!
 FineLikeWine09

Joined: 1/10/2009
Msg: 97
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Posted: 2/9/2009 11:24:40 PM
Photoman 245, I love your black and white profile pic. Straight out of TIME magazine! What a wonderful iconic depiction of a man stuck in a 50's time warp! BTW, how in the world are you getting woman admirers from "Ghana or anywhere in Africa." If you're so concerned, maybe you should stop looking at so much online porn. Damn! I'm lucky enough to get interested parties within a 50 mile radius. And if you're worried about the "so called troubled times", be advised that gold diggers do come in every color, including white.
 bp709

Joined: 10/8/2006
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Posted: 2/10/2009 2:54:27 AM
well you know what they say it make all kind of pll to make this world sorry to hear what happen to but i have been on here for 2yrs off and on and never got a bad word said to everyone who i have emailed(white women)have been nice about it thank you or im dating already it was a nice way of say i dont date outside of my race which is cool with me now i have email(black women) and dont even get a note back now what up with that hey i may not be there cup of tea but at least they could do is write a little note say no thank what is so hard with that. but there are some good women here on pof and you dont have to go up north to get one lol happy fishing
 FineLikeWine09

Joined: 1/10/2009
Msg: 99
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Posted: 2/10/2009 7:33:41 AM
Commentary to ONLY1DAYWALKER: On your statement: "Obama winning by a land slide has pretty much proven to me that racism in the United States is pretty much dead.", oh dear, get some help! Obama won because of a revolutionary grass roots movement that radicalized many non-voters (many people of color) to vote like never before, not to exclude hordes of disenfranchised youth who were sick of more of the same. But the main catalyst for his win, were the masses of Republicans and Independents who simply didn't vote. Get the facts straight, racism is alive and well in this country. It's just much more transparent.
 celts123

Joined: 5/15/2008
Msg: 100
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Posted: 2/10/2009 8:14:22 AM
I lock my doors any time I'm anywhere in a bad neighborhood regardless of who is crossing the street. Every time I do this and it's a black person, I feel awful because I assume they think it's because they're black. No, it's because I'm in a bad neighborhood and I'm alone. If the person was a white male, I would check my doors as well. Some things are just human nature, and I wouldn't assume that she crossed the street because you were black, unless you were able to speak to her. Your whole comment is chalk full of assumptions. You sound paranoid.


Sometimes you can make a reasonable explanation that this happened due to race. Perhaps the same white lady DID NOT cross a street to avoid a large group of white people. But did cross a street to avoid a single black person.


I have a question for you, out of curiosity, if you email a white girl and she isn't interested, do you automatically think it's because you're black?


This wasn't directed to me. But since I'm black, I will answer the question. No I wouldn't assume that this is due to race. Unless a white woman specifically mentioned that "I don't date outside my race" or "I'm not interested in black men". That has happened to me several times. Saying these things isn't nearly as bad as making outright racist statements. But I still feel it is unnecessary to say these things. Just say that "we're not a match".


Commentary to ONLY1DAYWALKER: On your statement: "Obama winning by a land slide has pretty much proven to me that racism in the United States is pretty much dead.", oh dear, get some help! Obama won because of a revolutionary grass roots movement that radicalized many non-voters (many people of color) to vote like never before, not to exclude hordes of disenfranchised youth who were sick of more of the same. But the main catalyst for his win, were the masses of Republicans and Independents who simply didn't vote. Get the facts straight, racism is alive and well in this country. It's just much more transparent.


Good points.
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