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 stargazer1000

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Posted: 10/30/2009 12:12:02 PM
Well, I can tell you I definitely do not believe in little alien visitors zipping across our skies. Why? Well, never having seen one despite considerable opportunity tends to colour one's perception. As for the bible, okay...but what about the Qu'ran? Tibetan Book of the Dead? Kama Sutra? Collected works of Shakespeare? Mad Comics?
 VoidDancer

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Posted: 10/30/2009 2:57:50 PM
I sort of always believed life was out there. I didn’t believe in UFOs or aliens as per say. When people would talk about UFOs I didn’t believe what they were telling me. Please let me know if you finds any information about UFOs in that list of books you posted ... lol

So … I do understand the dilemma. I don't expect you to believe what follows ... I wouldn't, or should I say didn't ... but ... It didn't make me correct in my belief.

Then came the day I started to see UFOs flying in our skies … after a few sightings I did believe they existed.

I had walked a spiritual path consciously for over 25 years at this point … so in 1997 … I did a little research and read the channeling that were used by Barbara Marciniak and her book Bringers of the Dawn. Some things I read about the 60s and 70s got me real curious and at the end of the book she said that if you want contact to ask them to come in love and peace.

I thought about it and decided to ask and see what would happen. I would enter a form of meditation and asked in love from the center of my Heart … to come and make contact in Love and Peace.

Well … on the third day it took place. There are no words to describe the experience and they are not of this world. It took me a few years to go back over my spiritual experiences and tie it all together with the Star Nations or Angles if you prefer that word.

Contact is necessary … because … then you know for sure … not really until …

Now I would like to meet them face-2-face and create a much closer interdependent relationship with them. They do come around once and a while. :-) ... I need to get more of my act together so I can work with them on an ongoing bases.

I have also seen the Secret Governments back-engineered anti-gravity craft slowly, silently fly over my house at very low altitude. Again I know from seeing two of these craft, that we do have them as well. Not all UFOs in our skies are Star Nations; some are evil humans trying to keep the Star Visitors away from contacting all of humanity. Our rich Elitists like to live off our backs and are determined to keep us as slaves.

The cabal have started an extremely dispicable Star Wars against them and shot at them constantly ... no worries, they will never retaliate ...

This is why in media, video and movies we get this evil alien disinformation … The Star nations are not evil at all. We humans have psychopaths as leaders and people with great wealth and influence all pretending to be goodie two shoes. They may fool you, but will never fool me.

As Dr Van Braun keep warning over and over he would say; “The last card … the trump card … is a faked Alien invasion.” … Be for warned that the Cabal or Secret Government or Illuminate, or any label you want to use for our evil leaders … There is no evil or any type of war, starvation, poisoning or pollution occurring on Planet Earth that is not been well planned out and is very intentionally being done. They have no intention of losing their slaves and it is in their best interest to keep us all in a chaotic hell hole.

If necessary … they intend to fake an alien invasion where they come to our rescue and save us from the evil abductors, cattle mutilators and butchers of humanity … if they succeed, it is over for humanity. They will not succeed. It is just how long it will take for people to stand up and stop the human suffering and misery.

Lately there seems to be more evil alien movies and crap coming out
… Are they close to disclosure? … Yes I think so and I think this would come first.
… Are they gearing up for the faked alien invasion? … They being painted as our enemies

I don’t know what they will try next … I will have to wait and see what they do next …

Have an Awesome day ... Love, Light and Peace always ... in all ways
 Bluesman2008

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Posted: 10/30/2009 3:05:51 PM
VoidDancer you are so right on. Namaste (11:11) :)
 Paul K

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Posted: 10/30/2009 3:54:16 PM
Hey bluesman

And to think that I on occasion thought you were a rational person...............


Paul K

When you said that you fly planes, are they the big Karillion powered star cruisers, or just the local Beronium powered sports models? I would give my left nut to go for a ride some day!!!!!
 Bluesman2008

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Posted: 10/30/2009 4:05:19 PM
Sometimes we have to suffer fools.
 Paul K

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Posted: 10/30/2009 4:20:19 PM
^^^^

yeah, I know what you mean..........

How about that ride???

Paul K
 msquared

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Posted: 10/30/2009 5:23:42 PM

This is why in media, video and movies we get this evil alien disinformation … The Star nations are not evil at all. We humans have psychopaths as leaders and people with great wealth and influence all pretending to be goodie two shoes. They may fool you, but will never fool me.


I must confess. I am the insidious force behind all the anti-alien propaganda. It is my revenge for having watched the pilot episode of the tv show Meego.
 VoidDancer

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Posted: 10/31/2009 8:47:08 AM
Thanks Bluesman ... Appreciated.

Yes indeed ... some of us have to be the insidious force or we wouldn't have any insidiousness to watch, talk about or deal with. ... hehehehe ...

Have an Awesome Day ... Love, Light and Peace
 ENRIQUECALOR

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Posted: 11/3/2009 8:52:06 AM
MSsquared
How could a duck wearing a wig and a poncho be mistaken for a UFO

Only Mexican ducks wear ponchos.
I have never heard of Mexican ducks travelling incognito unless you mean the Mexican ducks have a tendency to dress up like Marilyn Monroe or Jayne Fonda just for kicks.

All UFOs are flown by Red haired Norwegians probably because the UFO was first discovered by Nazi stormtroppers who recoverd a UFO from the snow in Spitzbergen Norway during WW2

All captured UFOs were transported to Arizona after fall of third Reich and red haired Norwegians taught the Americans how to fly them.
 NothingLeftToBurn

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Posted: 11/4/2009 9:56:53 AM
If you look back to documented UFO sightings, not including the bible or Egyptian times, but some that go back as far as the 1800's to current sightings, you find the strange pattern of sightings that were cigar shaped in the 1800's, followed by the more familiar disk shape from the 1950's, to the modern triangular and dot shape of the 20th century. What the hell is going on there? Are aliens advancing or is our creativity growing?

In a one hundred year span the aliens remodel their space craft design three times? Wow, ok. I guess they're still trying to figure out interstellar space travel.

Who knows for sure, but I agree that the UFO phenomenon is rooted in our subconscious. I think mother earth is trying to tell us something and we should probably be listening.
 Twister239

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Posted: 11/4/2009 6:27:00 PM

If necessary … they intend to fake an alien invasion where they come to our rescue and save us from the evil abductors, cattle mutilators and butchers of humanity … if they succeed, it is over for humanity. They will not succeed.

Project Bluebeam ?


In a one hundred year span the aliens remodel their space craft design three times? Wow, ok. I guess they're still trying to figure out interstellar space travel.

bahh...everyones going ' green ' these days
they would look foolish showing up in a big clunker

 VoidDancer

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Posted: 11/6/2009 7:50:30 AM
The Zeta ships that come into our atmosphere can change shape. They are living organisms with an intelligence level close to humans.

It is simple for their Orb crafts to elongate into a cigar shape or into the familiar disk shape to save energy while in our atmosphere. Their ships can change into the shape of a car as well and follow you down the road … Hide and Seek anyone? … hehehe … great fun.

The truth is stranger than fiction …

Yes … the faked invasion is part of project Bluebeam and has been confirmed by Zeta as a valid “warning.”

It does seem disclosure is close … if they don’t disclose the fact that they have been contacted face-2-face it is only partial disclosure. In this case they will probably come out later with a statement that they are evil … then fake an invasion with their back-engineered clunkers "pretending to save us all" from the evil Star nations …

The last thing the cabal want is to lose control of this planet and their slaves.

Enjoy your day

Love and Peace, always … in all ways
 Bluesman2008

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Posted: 11/6/2009 11:44:15 PM

The truth is stranger than fiction …


You said a mouthful my friend. I hope I live to see it. What a day that will be.
 monalee1

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Posted: 11/7/2009 2:56:27 PM
"Who knows for sure, but I agree that the UFO phenomenon is rooted in our subconscious. I think mother earth is trying to tell us something and we should probably be listening. "

.. my only point here is a Spiritual suggestion... the bible tells us there is Truth and then there is counterfeit << which sets out to dishonour God... the bible says that there are other worlds << obedient to God ... the bible says that 1/3 of heavens angels fell in disobedience.. as a Spiritual person I have come to the conclusion that if UFOs are not some human hoax then they are the works of demons and their purpose is to dishonour God and His Truth... if you are trying to figure out if the UFO is a hoax or not ~great~ but if they ever expose UFOs as real know that UFOs exist from demons, they are not going to add anything good to our lives... passing the mike to someone else with 2 cents.... blessings
 stargazer1000

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Posted: 11/7/2009 2:58:57 PM

It does seem disclosure is close …


And like predictions of doomsday, the date is always pushed back.


The last thing the cabal want is to lose control of this planet and their slaves.


Let's see, you have the freedom to come and go as you please, you can go to any store and buy food without waiting in long lines, there are no stormtroopers on every street corner, you have have freedom of speech - as is clear on these forums - It scares me to think what you people think of as "freedom."
 VoidDancer

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Posted: 11/8/2009 8:37:19 AM

It does seem disclosure is close …


This is not a prediction … lol … It is simple logic. Everyday more people see a UFO or a Star Visitor. This increases the percentage of people in the know daily. The day will arrive when every human has seen one. Simple logic.

It does reach a point when enough people know … that officialdom has to make the official announcement or look like a total bunch of incompetent fools.

Everyday someone else steps forward … one example: Mr. Cllr Adrian Hicks, a 52 year old Liberal Democrat wants both the UK and US governments, to come clean and tell the public about the existence of Star People. He started this because he saw a Star Visitor in Hampshire walking down the street. He says she looked human enough to get away with it and that she was very relaxed and completely enjoying herself looking all around. As I said … tomorrow there will another one and then another one and on and on and on it will go till we all know the truth.

There is no such thing as a prediction. It is only the highest probability. The rest is just fear based money making schemes, propaganda, disinformation and misinformation as far as I can see. There are also those who honestly believe we are doomed and are scared.

The truth of the matter is simple … We are at the end of an evolutionary cycle and this world as we know it is over. The New World has not arrived yet. We are in between the two … the transition period where we make an evolutionary leap.

Freedom: … I have pondered what real freedom is and would feel like for a long, long time. One thing I know for sure … we are not free at all …

In order for a civilization to survive everyone must be free. There must be real justice. And lastly, in order to survive a civilization must be efficient. Without freedom and justice there is no efficiency. Without efficiency there is no sustainability. All three of these are missing in our civilization and therefore it is doomed and must transform to survive.

The Star nation civilizations are freedom orientated in all ways. They are completely just societies and live in total peace and harmony. They are all equal with no monetary system whatsoever. All things are designed efficiently to last as long as possible with minimal break down.

EnJoy your day … Love and Peace always … in all ways
 Bluesman2008

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Posted: 11/8/2009 2:56:42 PM
Indeed the Mayans (and several other cultures) weren't predicting the end of the world in 2012, but rather the transition from the 4th to the 5th. Hang on 'cause it's gonna be a bumpy ride :)
 stargazer1000

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Posted: 11/8/2009 4:16:48 PM
There really is no debating people's religion, is there.
 scorpiomover

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Posted: 11/8/2009 4:21:30 PM

There really is no debating people's religion, is there.
No.

That's why the best course is just to be pluralistic, and validate everyone's system of belief.
 stargazer1000

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Posted: 11/8/2009 8:41:13 PM

That's why the best course is just to be pluralistic, and validate everyone's system of belief.


When the stubborn adherence to ignorance is regarded as having some kind of nobility and is even fought for, despite efforts to provide actual information, then it begs an important question...Which is the bigger fool? The one who argues for their ignorance or the one who rails pointlessly against it?
 Funcuz

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Posted: 11/8/2009 9:30:44 PM

That's why the best course is just to be pluralistic, and validate everyone's system of belief.

Uh....I'll tolerate crazy ideas but I certainly won't "validate" them (although I'm not sure what you mean by that since it's a non-sequitur here as near as I can tell)
If people want to believe in UFOs well that's fine...they can. I don't know , maybe they've actually seen them. Of course , by their own admission they're usually fantasizing about what they saw. How can anybody say they saw a UFO and know where it came from or what it was exactly ? It wouldn't be a UFO in that case.
 jubbly

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Posted: 11/10/2009 2:13:22 AM
Msg 66 VoidDancer.....your use of the word " logic" made my spocklike ears twitch in surprise!!!
 Twister239

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Posted: 11/10/2009 7:23:11 AM
Jesus was actually a "Swede"
an alien..an ET...man from mars...or any other silly name
given to visitors to this planet .
Disclosure will come and its not to far away from what I hear .
The problem is going to be, that it blows ALL religion right out the window.
Countries devided , families devided and much bloodshed in the name of religion
has been pointless all these years....and for what ?

VoidDancer
you might find the following book an interesting read about goverment interaction with these EBE,s .

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce_book.htm

it talks about a underground base in Dulce NM where this contact is on a daily basis
 Bluesman2008

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Posted: 11/10/2009 12:00:37 PM
Even the pope is aware of this coming phenomena. That's why the church revised their thinking about ETs saying that if life does exist on other worlds, they too are gods creations. They're hedging their bets.

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce_book.htm

What's interesting is that the military denied having any equipment that could make tunnels that large....that is, until a photo surfaces of the "Dulce Digger"

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt150/Bluesman2008/DulceDigger.jpg?t=1257883166
 stargazer1000

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Posted: 11/10/2009 1:17:40 PM

What's interesting is that the military denied having any equipment that could make tunnels that large....that is, until a photo surfaces of the "Dulce Digger"


What, you mean this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_boring_machine

Wow. You've really blown the roof off that one bluesman.
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