| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/6/2009 5:12:06 PM | So then that poses the question if the men are out at singles nights, speed dating, dating sites, etc...they're all out on the hunt...
...where are the women? Are they all scared to try to find men? Or playing the "I don't need/want a man" song and dance?
If there is supposedly a near equal ratio of single unattached men to single unattached females, then where are all these females? Are they really then trying or making any kind of effort to meet men? (the women who want a man...even if they claim they don't) | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/6/2009 5:44:08 PM | | That's a good question. I'd say many women don't get to a place where online dating is necessary. With men doing the approaching, women don't have to resort to online dating unless they're; uber-busy, don't have single friends or single resources, haven't found what they're looking for easily or are single mothers. It's also a great way to get attention if that's your drug or trade up if you're not happy in a current relation. This is purely speculation on my part. I'm here looking to increase my options since I can't date people associated with work. I don't go to singles nights or speed dating because it's more work than I want to expend to find a date. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/6/2009 10:50:41 PM | well there's no denying there's more men then women, but 20 to 1 is absurd, 5 to 1 is kind of unrealistic as well for most balanced cities.
ok so I was bored and crunched some numbers for a big canadian city. only 5mile search radius, thus not very representative of a real search, but anything over 5miles returned 600+ males for every single age in the 20's bracket.
the numbers are in:
-all ages (18-99)
-Profiles with pictures only
-5 mile search radius
male: 4257
female:1912
ratio: 2.2 to 1
seems about right.
but someone commented on age making a big diffrence, so I took another set of numbers to see if it's more skewed the younger you are.
18-30 bracket: 2.1 to 1
31-99 bracket: 2.3 to 1
no real diffrence, it actually gets a bit worse for older guys! | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/7/2009 3:58:40 AM |
In person I always need something to start on conversation on otherwise it just sounds like a stupid pickup line. Online if a woman has written a half-way decent profile there's a good chance I can write something based on it. Then again considering my success rate maybe I should use pickup lines instead ;)
That's because women defined what a "pick up line" is and have done themselves a disservice by discounting a single man that approaches herin public. Anyhow, the "pick-up line" would probably work if he made 6 figures.  | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/7/2009 1:11:25 PM | ^^^ Desperation? ^^^
I don't think many people use the internet as their only source for dating and relationships. I started visiting these site years ago out of boredom. I've rarely even contacted anybody. It seems like everyone, that is on par with who I date off-line, is wanting Mr. Perfect online. The Jackpot! I think online dating is a lot like buying a lottery ticket for some people. It's a chance to meet someone better than what they can normally do off-line. Anything less is a waste of their time. If it works out... Great! If not... No big loss. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/7/2009 1:26:44 PM | Total myth, according to the site moderators. It's not even a ratio of 2:1. It's something like, 1.6 men for every 1.2 women. Seriously, statistically not even significant.
Now as far as the old, balding, etc. men looking for young, thin, beautiful women, that's probably at least 20 to one. Throw in married guys wanting to cheat with young, thin, beautiful women and we're probably looking at 600 to one. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/7/2009 1:37:25 PM | Total myth, according to the site moderators. It's not even a ratio of 2:1. It's something like, 1.6 men for every 1.2 women. Seriously, statistically not even significant.
As I stated earlier this depends on various factors such as geography and age. On POF for my geographical area and age group, men outnumber women by about 2.5 to 1 ratio. This ratio tends to become even for people over 40. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/7/2009 1:40:29 PM | As I stated earlier this depends on various factors such as geography and age.
My apologies, I thought this was a given. Of course there will be fluctuations based on where you live, such as NYC versus Wyoming, or if you're 18 versus 40. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/7/2009 7:42:22 PM |
> In person I always need something to start on conversation on otherwise it just
> sounds like a stupid pickup line. Online if a woman has written a half-way decent profile
> there's a good chance I can write something based on it. Then again considering my
> success rate maybe I should use pickup lines instead ;)
That's because women defined what a "pick up line" is and have done themselves a disservice by discounting a single man that approaches herin public. Anyhow, the "pick-up line" would probably work if he made 6 figures.
The changes in what is considered acceptable behavior were aimed at reducing what was really always bad behavior. American society loves to set very low thresholds for poor or illegal behavior and then decide on a case by case basis who is to be held to the letter of the law and who isn't. Your example of a guy who makes 6 figures is an example of who isn't held to the restrictions or has a much higher threshold before he becomes 'bad'. I think the threshold for me is somewhere between eye contact and just before saying 'hi'. :)
Total myth, according to the site moderators. It's not even a ratio of 2:1. It's something like, 1.6 men for every 1.2 women. Seriously, statistically not even significant. Site moderators have a vested interest in creating an illusion that there is a decent ratio. It's difficult on a more popular site such as this one to get an idea of ratio, but for it to be under 2 to 1 here this site would have to have some how broken through some sort of barrier that other smaller ones don't. Ones small enough that it's easier to get a handle on the ratio.
If there were really that many women in the online dating world dating websites wouldn't have to resort to bots and other forms of fake female profiles. The free sites like this one don't do that but pay for sites do to keep or get guys to sign up for a paying membership. Even giant pay for sites have had instances where they caught doing that. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/7/2009 9:54:55 PM | | This ratio depends on your locale. For shits and giggles awhile ago, I checked this ratio in my location and it was something like 2 to 1 or 2.5 to 1 men to women. I don't think it's 10:1 men, probably somewhere between even to 3:1 or 4:1. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/8/2009 9:14:33 AM |
If there were really that many women in the online dating world dating websites wouldn't have to resort to bots and other forms of fake female profiles. The free sites like this one don't do that but pay for sites do to keep or get guys to sign up for a paying membership. Even giant pay for sites have had instances where they caught doing that.
But then it poses the same question...if there are all these single women out there who seemingly never sign up on a dating site, never attend any kind of singles thing, or even join meetups to just meet people in general...if they hide in their cliques of friends (and slowly watch them all get married off) and seemingly do little or nothing to get out there in some way to find men...then what's their grand plan?
I know not all single women are out there actively looking to find a man, but everyone has to agree that there is a majority of them. Is it that they're hiding in their friends, jobs, hobbies, etc? Or they keep doing the same things that fail them before?
Or (just to play devil's advocate) even perhaps they are meeting guys, but it seems the combo of attractive with a stable life (job, money, etc) and he want a RL/commitment is elusive? Meaning they can find a guy with a stable life and he wants a RL, but they don't find him attractive, or the guy they find attractive and has a stable life wants just to sleep around. Perhaps they are meeting many guys, but they're not finding that tri-fecta they want, which in many ways all men and women want in the opposite gender.
Thoughts? | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/9/2009 2:22:50 PM | | Just brainstorming but perhaps women have a larger field of available men, when they are young. I say this by noting that women will date older men but men will not date older women. (Generally.). So perhaps the single are older with the younger women already taken. Meanwhile, younger guys have a narrower field and are single. Maybe that accounts for some. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/10/2009 9:37:47 PM | ^^^^ I beg to differ but at least in my own experience the majority of women will not date anyone much older than themselves, in fact they prefer a man a little younger. I, on the other hand will date as much as 5 years older than myself.
Now, put the shoe on the other foot and browse the female profiles on here. For example if you are 49 as I am, see how many 44 year olds are willing to date a man who is 49? Virtually none. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/22/2009 6:29:40 PM |
The men outnumber women on dating sites probably 10-1 and of those 1 women, most of them are overweight or unattractive and the better looking women get completely bombarded by emails (some get over 100/day) and very few of those women are paying customers so they can't read their email anyway. This isn't just me making this up as I've spoken with alot of women who have used personals and they literally can't read all their messages. Most guys are lucky to get even 2-3 responses/week. In theory it's a good way to meet people but it's inarguably stacked in the favor of the women as being a great way to find somebody yet the men are the ones funding the sites.
Considering that POF is a free site... You can bet the kind of people you're attracting. But this is an interesting observation. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/22/2009 6:52:06 PM | I agree that there are more married men and players on dating sites than women. Women that are interested in dating get tired of the married men and players and get off the sites. Men keep plugging away...
I really don't mean all men. I know there are some really nice oops, I mean good, crap, fabulous men on this site. (Yes, I know nice and good guy are swear words on here, my apologies.) | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/22/2009 6:54:35 PM |
but for it to be under 2 to 1 here this site would have to have some how broken through some sort of barrier that other smaller ones don't.
Yes. Unlike the other ones, this one doesn't charge. I'm just sayin.'
And yes, as someone else pointed out, the ration varies depending on age range and locale. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/22/2009 9:24:43 PM | "(Yes, I know nice and good guy are swear words on here, my apologies.)"
"Nice" and "good" are hereby officially deemed badspeak. Henceforth, all such references to those men exhibiting the traits and qualities found most desirable by women, shall utilize the term "commendable".
Examples of said newspeak:
"Looking for a commendable man."
"If you're not a commendable guy, just go to the next profile."
"Why can't I get a commendable guy to email me?"
"As soon as the car door closed, he was all over me! Serves me right for thinking he was commendable."
Changes effective immediately. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/22/2009 10:17:38 PM | Total myth, according to the site moderators. It's not even a ratio of 2:1. It's something like, 1.6 men for every 1.2 women. Seriously, statistically not even significant.
Does anyone believe that statement? I certainly don't. How would a moderator even know? It is possible that it is true or that she believes it to be true. However, she failed to provide a source and didn't name the moderator(s) that made such a statement. Should she or someone else provide a source so I can verify the statement, I may believe it. Until then, I do not. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/23/2009 10:20:14 AM | http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts149506.aspx, Message 1.
For the whole site, the actual ratio (as of a few months ago) is M:F-
+/- 1.5:1,
+/- 1.2:1 in Canada.
The trend is toward parity.
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Forum Moderator
Or try here:
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts7877717.aspx
Message 5, by moderator Trapped on Bay Street.
There you go. You're welcome. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/23/2009 10:23:26 AM | | I read an article on a psychology Web site that said there are more men than women on dating sites. I don't know what the exact ratio is, although it's not gigantic. However, women are less likely to place and respond to ads because women are more fearful for their safety, and are far more vulnerable than men when it comes to potential danger. The article also stated that dating sites are a buyer's market for women, because the men are still expected to do the pursuing. A woman who has anything remotely going for her will get bombarded with repsonses, whereas men are more likely to be rejected or ignored when they place ads or contact women online. I have had male friends tell me this, as well. And they aren't losers, either. It's an interesting phenomenon. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 1/23/2009 12:26:39 PM | Well, trying out the search tools for within 25 miles near where I live.
age 20-30
women: 378
men: 600+
age 30-40
women: 247
men: 537
age 50-60
women: 113
men: 139
So definitely true around here. And from women I've talked to it's pretty obvious. Women get a lot more attention online. However women actually outnumber men by a little bit around here. Granted men are supposed to chase women so it's expected. But I get the impression that it is a pretty large difference. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/4/2009 4:20:37 PM | I think this carries over to all ages: For many years I ran a large co-ed beach house; most people were 28-45. On Friday & Saturday nites at 11 pm all the women from our house & their friends at neighboring houses would gather together, sit around, drink coffee and complain about not being able to meet decent guys. All were reasonably successful women in business, of average looks. In town, the restaurants, bars & discos were full of men, and not many women. When the women did go into town, they went as a large group, turned their backs on any men around them, and if any reasonable looking guy had the nerve to come over & try to enter their conversations, they would just blow him off with some rude comment. I have read a huge number of profiles of women on POF, and I think they are mostly dysfunctional ads. I have only limited experience here so far, but not one woman has ever contacted me first other than a hooker; with one exception no one answers msgs unless thanking me for some compliment I made to them about something in their profile & it was clear that there was no mutual match for us. Some years ago I tried several other sites, and I found it difficult to get women to even meet me in a public place or coffee shop, as they had incredible fear of meeting Jack the Ripper or someone who didn't look as handsome as his photo, or HE might reject THEM. One attractive woman once confided to me that she always went home with the dumbest jerk since she couldn't stand the possibility of being rejected by some really nice handsome guy. The point of all this is that people can be their own worst enemies.
I read this on one (wise) man's profile: "If your ship doesn't come in . . . swim out to it! | |
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