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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/7/2009 10:36:25 PM | ^^^Doubly correct, and in addition, many men are on internet dating
sites because they have trouble getting dates in real life.
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Wait, aren't WE on an internet dating site, too????
Oh, yeah.
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/8/2009 9:33:11 AM |
I think that 20:1 ratio represents the number of fat, bald, short, old, and broke men who want thin, long haired, tall, young, and rich women. Otherwise, I think it is an even number of men to women. He can't get that ONE out of 20 he wants. It's not like there aren't 19 other women, he is more evenly matched with for a date. He wants a low cost supermodel, where the odds of that happening are dream on in any fora. I wouldn't mind Brad Pitt, myself. I try to be a little more realistic so that way I am not disappointed when he still doesn't email me.
After this post, there really is nothing left to say. Closed thread. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/8/2009 6:37:13 PM |
and in addition, many women are on Internet
dating sites because they have trouble getting dates in real life. it's interesting...if men don't have any problem with getting a date in real life, why there are so many of them here? | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/8/2009 7:30:46 PM |
I think that 20:1 ratio represents the number of fat, bald, short, old, and broke men who want thin, long haired, tall, young, and rich women. Otherwise, I think it is an even number of men to women. He can't get that ONE out of 20 he wants. It's not like there aren't 19 other women, he is more evenly matched with for a date. He wants a low cost supermodel, where the odds of that happening are dream on in any fora. I wouldn't mind Brad Pitt, myself. I try to be a little more realistic so that way I am not disappointed when he still doesn't email me.
Yes some men do have unrealistic expectations, but this can equally apply to both genders. A man could email a bunch of women around his "level" in terms of looks, education, social status etc and still get very few positive replies. There are women who have a long list of requirements even though they don't bring any special to the table. They are at best plain ordinary average looking women. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/8/2009 10:10:14 PM | You cannot get a valid search unless you log off and then do a search because, if you are logged, on most people will not show up due to mail and other restrictions.
I have searched in a number of locations and the male/female ratio varies from less than two to 5 or more. An average would be a male/female ratio of more than two, but less than three. Of course there are a lot more men than there are women so men are more desperate and will try every possibility.
Women don't have to seek out men because men will seek them out so many and perhaps most women don't make any effort to find guy on internet dating sites or anywhere else. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/9/2009 12:59:29 PM | "Women don't have to seek men out because men will seek them out so many and perhaps most women don't make any effort to find a guy on internet dating sites or anywhere else."
EXACTLY! That's what a lot of men find so frustrating both on the web and IRL. Once we're out of school, most of us don't come in contact with a lot of unattached women in our daily routine, so just finding women to meet becomes a major task. It often seems as if women are somehow actively avoiding us, while at the same time our friends, family, neighbors and co-workers have nothing to offer but useless and contradicory advice. I think this frustration accounts for alot of obnoxious behavior on the part of men. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/9/2009 1:52:39 PM | | the issue is not only the number; the quality of man and woman differ also. I mean, when it is possible to meet better woman in real life, in such sites, I can only get less attractive or less qualified woman. That shows that qualified and atractive man can be found in web, but, it less probably to find atractive and qualified woman. | |
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| Yes...
Posted: 2/9/2009 2:29:34 PM |
No they don't. I just thought you would appreciate being set straight on that.
...they do.
This is the thing....there is no disputing that under the age of 30....men pursue women. Women hold the cards.
However...as we age...this changes. Pretty dramatically actually at age 40....and again at age 50 (so I am told)
This is because men and women often times value different things from their partners as they age.
Women - Maturity. Stability.
Men - Youth. Attractiveness.
The men who....speaking in very board general terms...are attractive to women over the age of 40, tend to also be the sort of men who are married, or already in long term committed relationships. It is these very qualities that women value that take these men off the market.
Now, it isn't necessarily easier for the guys - at least the ones who aren't ground in reality. They want young and hot...but young hot women do NOT care for older, comparatively less attractive men. This is where money comes into play, but I digress.
The truth is that many 40+ age men find 40+ age women invisible. Just...don't' see them. They literally do not recognize them as women with libidos, etc., as some that might make a great partner.
Not only have their been a fair amount of studies to back this up, but I have tons of anecdotal evidence from women I speak with. I have known plenty of women over the age of 35 who go MONTHS between dates...MONTHS without being asked out. And those who are in relationships...many compromise in ways they probably would have never considered 10 to 15 years ago...just because they feel the pool of men who are actually interested in dating them is small.
My first stint on POF, i had no problem meeting women...i typically had a dae with a new person once a week or so. They didn't all like me...I didn't like all of them. But getting that first date was never a problem (note: I am not saying it didn't take work...it IS a numbers game....but spam doesn't not work either)
This time...I haven't been out with anyone yet, but in the two weeks I have been back...again, no problem "virtually" meeting some very nice people. Not all will be interested in getting to know me better (ie, an actual date), but I am sure some will.
The secret to my success? I actually find smart women my age attractive. And they love me for it...
(Btw...guys...women REALLY DO notice how you write your profile...and REALLY DO notice how much time and care you take to message them...as in actually read there profile, actually having something to say. To a woman they have all expressed that they appreciate the dialogue I have with them) | |
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Posted: 2/9/2009 2:37:48 PM |
the issue is not only the number; the quality of man and woman differ also. I mean, when it is possible to meet better woman in real life, in such sites, I can only get less attractive or less qualified woman. That shows that qualified and atractive man can be found in web, but, it less probably to find atractive and qualified woman.
....I must have missed something. How does this prove that the women online suck, but the men online are great?
Oh...wait....its because you ASSUME women find YOU to be "qualified and "atractive" (and you did that twice, so don't call it a typo....you are studying law you say?)
And yet, here you are, looking for a date, despite the fact that you are so "qualified and "atractive"...
Tell me, do any of you guys ever consider that the reason you can't get laid is because you are boorish misogynist?
That's all right...it works out better for me anyway....
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/9/2009 3:50:57 PM |
Brilliant, Thundercloud111, I couldn't agree more! Times that I've said this, I get eaten alive! I guess they think I'm being stuck up by saying I don't see why a 45, overweight, bald man gets butt hurt when the 23 year old, tall, thin, big boobed bomb shell doesn't reply to his email.
Now riddle me this: Why is that when a woman describes what she wants and a guy who fits that as perfectly as any human could writes her, she doesn't reply?
From the perspective of forums and such it's not usually the 45 year old fat guy who is playing a numbers game with as many hot women half his age as possible that's complaining, but rather guys who don't understand dating in an environment where the male to female ratio is so skewed being shocked they don't even get a reply. The overweight 45 year old knows exactly the game he is playing. * It's the other guys who wrote a woman who said she wanted a guy a lot like him that get frustrated to the point of complaint. They simply aren't used to summary rejection for small things. I got used to that in real life long before online dating got a foothold so it just seemed more or less normal to me, but most guys never lived in an environment of 8 guys to every girl like I did.
*even the ones who send abusive messages when they've been rejected/ignored. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/9/2009 6:13:56 PM |
xeotide wrote: Why is [it] that when a woman describes what she
wants and a guy who fits that as perfectly as any human could
writes her, she doesn't reply?
Because she doesn't like what he wrote. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/9/2009 9:35:14 PM |
It often seems as if women are somehow actively avoiding us, while at the same time our friends, family, neighbors and co-workers have nothing to offer but useless and contradictory advice.
That is probably true on both accounts. The first is because we are being hit on so often by rude or pushy guys that we have our defenses up. You may have noticed that married grandmothers in their 50's and 60's don't have their defenses up so they are a lot friendlier. The second is because people make feel good lies rather than tell you the truth. I am one the very few on this site that tells the truth. Most tell lies to make the person feel good and because they know that people get upset if you tell them the truth. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/10/2009 4:39:25 AM | | Ok now if all these men are supposedly on dating sites (like this one) then why do they spend most of their time here pretending they're invisible??? Seriously I want to know. I mean is this a dating site or isn't it? Most of the guys here seem to either want to chat and that's all or meet up with you to have sexual liaisons.............................arrrggghh I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!!! | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/10/2009 5:51:19 AM |
I mean, when it is possible to meet better woman in real life…
A lot of people think it’s easier to meet “better people” IRL because there is an illusion that the rejections that they do encounter are much less personal. And therefore, a lot less memorable.
IRL, when a person expresses an interest in someone they don’t know and they’re rejected, the rejectee can console themselves by telling themselves that the reason for that rejection is something that does NOT reflect on them personally. They can lie to themselves with the rationale that he/she is already attached, or prefers someone of the opposite gender or perhaps is about to move to Antarctica for a year and isn’t able to become involved with anyone at the moment. 
Online, those kinds of illusions (or delusions!) aren’t applicable because the profile automatically negates all of them. People have to face the fact (because the fact is glaringly in their face) that there is something about THEM personally that the other doesn’t like. A lot of people have difficulty with that because it hits straight to their ego. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/10/2009 8:01:49 AM | The answer is really quite simple if you think about it. Men outnumber women on dating sites simply because women have less need of the services a dating site provides than men do.
Most women are constantly being hit on or approached as they go through their daily lives. Either overtly or covertly men are actively pursuing them. With Men being traditionally in the pursuer role in the dating world most women can comfortably sit back and be approached by men vying for their attention. Men, on the other hand, are rarely approached and have to be more active in their pursuit of a potential date or mate. Therefore, a man using a dating site significantly improves the size of the pool of potential women to meet.
Additionally, men with less than optimal social skills who don't have the cajones to approach women in public often opt to take the more passive and less potentially ego crushing approach method that dating sites allows. A no-reply or even a unread/delete is far less ego damaging than an in person rejection.
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 2/13/2009 5:44:46 PM | blah blah ...illision,,etc
there is no need for complicated examination to understand the situation. Because attractive woman gets plenty of hit outside; it is logical to say dating sties is the place for relatively low profile woman; in contrast most man do try to increase the number of possible date because they do not get hit ouside which is normal for % 95 of men. Therefore, If you are fishing on internet as a guy, you should be okey with the one which is under the one you might normaly get. Thanks. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 5/8/2009 5:56:16 PM | This is not an easy question to tackle because like a lot of people said it partly depends on geography and age groups and the type of dating site. If your a male living in Alaska you clearly don't stand much of a chance for obvious reasons. If your a male on a millionare matchmaker site, you are in good standing. PlentyOfFish will have more men than women because its a free site that tends to attract men looking for sex or men who wont even spend the 50 dollars on a more professional site like match.com ... Clearly men out number women, but by how much depends on these factors.
If you consider all age groups then It looks something like 60% men and 40% women. But considering there are more women in later age than men are and more women are being born, it would suggest that more men than women are signing up for online dating. And dont forget, a lot of these sites are clever enough to put up fake profiles of attractive women. Like another poster said, there are more men with social defects than there are women . Plus the fact that some men can't and will not approach a girl in public and lack the experience to navigate the dating pool.
Now for the singles in their 20's the women have a biggest advantage of them all. They are desired by all age groups of men in many various geographical locations. They are looking at 10 men for every 1 woman. When women hit the age of 40 the tables have turned and by the time they hit 50 they are in the same boat men were in their 20's. Thats when they end up going to speed dating sites and find no men worthy of their time and hence they stay single. They rather be single than date a loser. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 5/8/2009 6:04:14 PM | im gonna also throw it out there that many women cheat and they do so with the same type of man. Its the alpha male being stretched thin among these women.
A lot of men cheat but many of them actually pay for it. Just look at these men in politics and what they are doing. It's so prevalent but people don't realize it.
So since these women are all going after the same guy it means theres much less women in general for the rest of us. | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 5/14/2009 2:27:19 AM | Wow. what a thread!!!!!!!!!
I 've read so many reasons and counter reasons and even statistics in people's general location.
Has anybody have the actual statistics for dating sites?
particularly this dating site
To prove if it is a fact or a myth?
Maybe this should be looked into by mythbuster or someone submit it to PlentyofFish
I.T. Administration.
I will ask them | |
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| men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
Posted: 5/14/2009 2:50:56 AM | I was curious and here's what I found but it is very old and is in '07
According to HitWise, the current top 10 web dating sites in the U.S., are:
True.
55.9% of site users are male, 44.1% female.
SinglesNet.
51.5% of site users are male, 48.5% female.
Yahoo! Personals
51.4% male, 48.6% female.
Match(I can't find that statistic)
and it didn't list of the rest.
Then there are also Niche dating sites where there are more females.
However I'm trying to look for overall statistics and Plentyoffish's as well | |
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